Nagato vs Madara

[arv993]

i dnt get ur comment man u say the rinnegan is not an automatic win but yet u said that madara could beat pein if he had the rinnegan how is that? Madara knows nothing about the rinnegan and it powers but so many people over hype him because he has this eye and plus pein had it his whole life and couldnt master it and you guys think he can master it just in a few weeks

i never said that madara has the rinnegan read it carefully. i said he can with his kamui and its teleportation abilities, if i wasn't clear i am sorry. madara doesn't kno anything about rinnegan u must be joking he is the one who tells all the history about it and he has a lot of exp in a hundred years of living u learn a lot of things. But that is not my point it is that nagato likely won't win against madara with ems

 

[Lord Painz]

madara cos he has ems and rinnegan

u said here that he has the rinnegan ... and many people knew about the rinnegan doesnt mean that they knew how to use it at max power

 

[arv993]

u said here that he has the rinnegan ... and many people knew about the rinnegan doesnt mean that they knew how to use it at max power

oh dude that was in the beginning when i didn't even read the description i even said my bad to ppl twice about it if you didn't look a little a further.

 

[Lord Painz]

oh dude that was in the beginning when i didn't even read the description i even said my bad to ppl twice about it if you didn't look a little a further.[/QUOTE

Man the poll speaks for it self so many ways that pein could beat madara

 

[pein87]

@arv993 can you read? I already explained it go back and read it before you make a post. Madara with EMS wouldn't have the power of the senju or the sharingan he uses for his teleportation. It should be obvious that he has replaced his eyes many times if you haven't noticed the chapter/episode where its shown that he has a collection of them. Re-read the chapter where madara explains izanagi. What is the requirement to use it? The power of the senju and uchiha, the power of the six paths. What has nagato had since age 10? The power of the six paths, and he has the rinnegan. Madara in that same battle says the sage created many things with izanagi and among them was the tailed beasts. Many is plural meaning more then one. Suffice it to say the rinnegan is not limited to using it just once and doesn't suffer the draw backs like the sharingan does. Even if it was madara before the rinnegan, if you can use any jutsu by age 10 that means any jutsu. What part of that don't you understand, the any or the jutsu? Jiraiya said he could use any jutsu, not one or two but "any jutsu he wanted since he was 10 yrs old" - jiraiya. Sasuke has beaten all non-sharingan users he has fought thus far, even users of the sharingan(danzo) so your claim is not valid. After he died it was then that madara was able to do as he wished. Get off the sharingan's balls, the rinnegan is what created ninjutsu and the other doujutsu. If it wasn't so important madara wouldn't have wanted it so bad. The rinnegan is a tool of god and can be used to create something out of nothing. Again what is needed to use izanagi, the power of the six paths. Its not an instant win, its powers just far surpass that of the sharingan and its been proven. However again if you re-read the konan vs madara fight you will notice the rinnegan now has six tome and is drawn over the stone cast as if to correct it. This would mean nagato's is not a complete rinnegan and is why madara still has that sharingan in it.

 

[Lord Painz]

@arv993 can you read? I already explained it go back and read it before you make a post. Madara with EMS wouldn't have the power of the senju or the sharingan he uses for his teleportation. It should be obvious that he has replaced his eyes many times if you haven't noticed the chapter/episode where its shown that he has a collection of them. Re-read the chapter where madara explains izanagi. What is the requirement to use it? The power of the senju and uchiha, the power of the six paths. What has nagato had since age 10? The power of the six paths, and he has the rinnegan. Madara in that same battle says the sage created many things with izanagi and among them was the tailed beasts. Many is plural meaning more then one. Suffice it to say the rinnegan is not limited to using it just once and doesn't suffer the draw backs like the sharingan does. Even if it was madara before the rinnegan, if you can use any jutsu by age 10 that means any jutsu. What part of that don't you understand, the any or the jutsu? Jiraiya said he could use any jutsu, not one or two but "any jutsu he wanted since he was 10 yrs old" - jiraiya. Sasuke has beaten all non-sharingan users he has fought thus far, even users of the sharingan(danzo) so your claim is not valid. After he died it was then that madara was able to do as he wished. Get off the sharingan's balls, the rinnegan is what created ninjutsu and the other doujutsu. If it wasn't so important madara wouldn't have wanted it so bad. The rinnegan is a tool of god and can be used to create something out of nothing. Again what is needed to use izanagi, the power of the six paths. Its not an instant win, its powers just far surpass that of the sharingan and its been proven. However again if you re-read the konan vs madara fight you will notice the rinnegan now has six tome and is drawn over the stone cast as if to correct it. This would mean nagato's is not a complete rinnegan and is why madara still has that sharingan in it.

well said bro

 

[arv993]

oh dude that was in the beginning when i didn't even read the description i even said my bad to ppl twice about it if you didn't look a little a further.[/QUOTE

Man the poll speaks for it self so many ways that pein could beat madara

the fact that you use the poll to rationalize the statement that nagato would win is so weak becus if you believe that there are many polls that say itachi is stronger than nagato do you believe that. polls are just ppl opinions, ppl like nagato better so they voted for him(not all but some), i used manga to back up my statements in why madara would win go read it if you want and then come and argue don't give very weak arguments like the poll.

 

[Lord Painz]

the fact that you use the poll to rationalize the statement that nagato would win is so weak becus if you believe that there are many polls that say itachi is stronger than nagato do you believe that. polls are just ppl opinions, ppl like nagato better so they voted for him(not all but some), i used manga to back up my statements in why madara would win go read it if you want and then come and argue don't give very weak arguments like the poll.

maybe u dnt c people agruing back and forth on this thread because there no need to mostly about using common sense here sharigan is weaker than rinnegan and plus using the sharigan has so many draw backs from using it ex. like sasuke fighting the kages.

 

[arv993]

@arv993 can you read? I already explained it go back and read it before you make a post. Madara with EMS wouldn't have the power of the senju or the sharingan he uses for his teleportation. It should be obvious that he has replaced his eyes many times if you haven't noticed the chapter/episode where its shown that he has a collection of them. Re-read the chapter where madara explains izanagi. What is the requirement to use it? The power of the senju and uchiha, the power of the six paths. What has nagato had since age 10? The power of the six paths, and he has the rinnegan. Madara in that same battle says the sage created many things with izanagi and among them was the tailed beasts. Many is plural meaning more then one. Suffice it to say the rinnegan is not limited to using it just once and doesn't suffer the draw backs like the sharingan does. Even if it was madara before the rinnegan, if you can use any jutsu by age 10 that means any jutsu. What part of that don't you understand, the any or the jutsu? Jiraiya said he could use any jutsu, not one or two but "any jutsu he wanted since he was 10 yrs old" - jiraiya. Sasuke has beaten all non-sharingan users he has fought thus far, even users of the sharingan(danzo) so your claim is not valid. After he died it was then that madara was able to do as he wished. Get off the sharingan's balls, the rinnegan is what created ninjutsu and the other doujutsu. If it wasn't so important madara wouldn't have wanted it so bad. The rinnegan is a tool of god and can be used to create something out of nothing. Again what is needed to use izanagi, the power of the six paths. Its not an instant win, its powers just far surpass that of the sharingan and its been proven. However again if you re-read the konan vs madara fight you will notice the rinnegan now has six tome and is drawn over the stone cast as if to correct it. This would mean nagato's is not a complete rinnegan and is why madara still has that sharingan in it.

dude who said that you need senju and uchiha powers to use teleportation jutsu, no it has not been said that, and if nagato and sage are not the same ppl their powers are on different on many levels. And ems madara has senju dna if you didn't kno he says that to konan. Nagato does not have all the paths he does not have the uchiha dna, why is madara going and collecting his eye and saying that he got one of the paths, he does not have everything. if he had izangi and he could have used against naruto it basically can create anything from nothingness. And sasuke is bad example i admit, but intially he did lose to killerbee but technically won at the end but after a lot of help. But what about madara himself he lost to hahsirama, and many members of the uchiha clan had to lose against the senju in an all out war. Rinnegan is only one of the paths not all of it one package.

 

[arv993]

maybe u dnt c people agruing back and forth on this thread because there no need to mostly about using common sense here sharigan is weaker than rinnegan and plus using the sharigan has so many draw backs from using it ex. like sasuke fighting the kages.

dude ok let me tell you one thing we are basing this off of what we have seen, and from what we have seen is that madara with ems is inttangile cannot be hit. nagato is not fast enough to hit or cannot land a blow on him, how is he gonna win all madara has to do is absorb him. how is nagato going to beat him. Go read the threads i have been here from the start and see what ppl have argued and i provided proof with sources direct from the manga.

 

[Zayon Uchiha]

maybe u dnt c people agruing back and forth on this thread because there no need to mostly about using common sense here sharigan is weaker than rinnegan and plus using the sharigan has so many draw backs from using it ex. like sasuke fighting the kages.

i agree

 

[Zayon Uchiha]

Nagato totally win!

 

[Lord Painz]

dude who said that you need senju and uchiha powers to use teleportation jutsu, no it has not been said that, and if nagato and sage are not the same ppl their powers are on different on many levels. And ems madara has senju dna if you didn't kno he says that to konan. Nagato does not have all the paths he does not have the uchiha dna, why is madara going and collecting his eye and saying that he got one of the paths, he does not have everything. if he had izangi and he could have used against naruto it basically can create anything from nothingness. And sasuke is bad example i admit, but intially he did lose to killerbee but technically won at the end but after a lot of help. But what about madara himself he lost to hahsirama, and many members of the uchiha clan had to lose against the senju in an all out war. Rinnegan is only one of the paths not all of it one package.

dude read sharigan wiki and rinnegan wiki and tell me which one is the perfect package come on lol u the only 1 is disagree n

 

[Zayon Uchiha]

He has rinegan

 

[Zayon Uchiha]

dude read sharigan wiki and rinnegan wiki and tell me which one is the perfect package come on lol u the only 1 is disagree n

lol

 

[arv993]

@pein87 here is proof that ngato is only one of the six paths not all of it in one self

You must be registered for see links

He is one path which is the rinnegan, he does not have uchiha dna or senju dna(maybe he does have senju becus uzumaki are distant relatives of senju but don't kno if that counts).

 

[arv993]

dude read sharigan wiki and rinnegan wiki and tell me which one is the perfect package come on lol u the only 1 is disagree n

rinnegan is better than sharingan no doubt about it but don't you realize that is axtually only one path of the sage the other one is senju dna, the other one is uchiah dna and the rest are unknown he is not completely like the sage of 6 paths who can use izangi to create dreams into reality which is its power.

 

[arv993]

dude read sharigan wiki and rinnegan wiki and tell me which one is the perfect package come on lol u the only 1 is disagree n

when i meant the package it is the all 6 paths that is what i meant nagato does not have it all but 1 which is the rinnegan read my link to the manga where madara says that after taking the rinnegan that he is 3rd of the 6 paths.

 

[Zayon Uchiha]

wow lol

 

[Lord Painz]

rinnegan is better than sharingan no doubt about it but don't you realize that is axtually only one path of the sage the other one is senju dna, the other one is uchiah dna and the rest are unknown he is not completely a like the sage of 6 paths who can use izangi to create dreams into reality which is its power.

dnt get ur point u think madara can kill pein with izangi i doubt it because u cant just wish some one died and it makes u blind forever