You act like preta path somehow has the power to stop a shockwave capable of leveling mountains.
All madara has to do is bring down his sword, PS activating is nearly instant, & on top of that madara has precognition. Why would madara let nagato even get close enough to absorb susanoo in the first place?
the shockwave didnt level a single mountain. All it did was cut off the tops,the mountain was still standing,it wasnt strong enough to destroy a full mountain.
nagato has several counters to it anyway. The dog tanks and multiplies,he flies,he uses an st,he has gedo tank it. One ct ends it.
-Nagato overwhelms madara completely until PS comes out,,, which iis likely to two-shot nagato,,,
-the only question is,, whhy cant nagato jus use an ordinary directional ST to only protect himself from the oncoming shockwave,,,,he dooesnt have to completely negate the slashes effect by CST
-Nagato overwhelms madara completely until PS comes out,,, which iis likely to two-shot nagato,,,
-the only question is,, whhy cant nagato jus use an ordinary directional ST to only protect himself from the oncoming shockwave,,,,he dooesnt have to completely negate the slashes effect by CST
the shockwave didnt level a single mountain. All it did was cut off the tops,the mountain was still standing,it wasnt strong enough to destroy a full mountain.
is destroying it. If one shockwave can do that to mountains then multiple slashes will reduce the mountain to rubble.
It's not a question of strength, PS has easily proven that it has enough strength to cut through mountains like butter, so stating that it's not "strong enough" is clearly not the case.
nagato has several counters to it anyway. The dog tanks and multiplies,he flies,he uses an st,he has gedo tank it. One ct ends it.
is destroying it. If one shockwave can do that to mountains then multiple slashes will reduce the mountain to rubble.
It's not a question of strength, PS has easily proven that it has enough strength to cut through mountains like butter, so stating that it's not "strong enough" is clearly not the case.
Dogs are non-factors, they get blown away due to the force of the slashes.
Flying just positions himself wide open for a sword swipe, it's useless here.
The force of st < PS shockwave so again it's useless.
The gedo statue isn't tanking anything, nagato can't control it properly.
check your own scan. those mountains werent cut in half,just the tops were cut off. only the rock formations were cut in half against the gokage and they ere still standing.
dogs dont get blown away,they are bijuu sized and divide upon contact,they just keep dividing and dividing. madara cant deal with them.
susanoo sword swipe is useless,preta deals with it. only threat to nagato is the shockwave.
gravity beats shockwave,not even debatable
nagatao can control gedo as he likes,gedo tanks it easily.
check your own scan. those mountains werent cut in half,just the tops were cut off. only the rock formations were cut in half against the gokage and they ere still standing.
1. Yes they were, they are wide mountains & so they have a thinner summit & a wider base. It's not my fault if you interpret it as something else but more than just the tops of those mountains were destroyed. The cuts are closer to the middle of the mountain than the top, madara re-shaped the mountains into plateaus, if the tops were just cut off then the mountain would still remain a mountain.
2. & By the way please tell me how only cutting off the top of the mountain would even matter? The fact that madara effortlessly cut through the mountain proves that two or three slashes like that would bring the entire mountain down, as they're literally nothing to him.
3. The gokage managed to survive because madara swung his sword to the side, the slash wasn't even directed towards them & they still got blown away due to the force, meanwhile the shockwave is cutting through mountains like scissors through paper.
dogs dont get blown away,they are bijuu sized and divide upon contact, they just keep dividing and dividing. madara cant deal with them.
Uhh, yes they do, lol. If naruto with some senjutsu chakra was able to casually knock away three of animal paths summons, [
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@Bold: & No they don't always divide on contact, & the last scan of my previous paragraph proves that. Plus a shockwave isn't even physical contact, it's a force. [
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If the dogs can get burned to death or hurt by a rasengan then they can also get killed if slashed enough times.
susanoo sword swipe is useless,preta deals with it. only threat to nagato is the shockwave.
& Do I have to explain myself again? I already told you how a casual sword swipe is all it takes to induce such a shockwave. Nagato gets crushed because as you said the shockwave is his threat, & since madara's attacks would only consist of shockwaves then I think you get the picture.
Just like how gravity beat a 6 tail kurama here? [
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nagatao can control gedo as he likes,gedo tanks it easily.
1. Yes they were, they are wide mountains & so they have a thinner summit & a wider base. It's not my fault if you interpret it as something else but more than just the tops of those mountains were destroyed. The cuts are closer to the middle of the mountain than the top, madara re-shaped the mountains into plateaus, if the tops were just cut off then the mountain would still remain a mountain.
2. & By the way please tell me how only cutting off the top of the mountain would even matter? The fact that madara effortlessly cut through the mountain proves that two or three slashes like that would bring the entire mountain down, as they're literally nothing to him.
3. The gokage managed to survive because madara swung his sword to the side, the slash wasn't even directed towards them & they still got blown away due to the force, meanwhile the shockwave is cutting through mountains like scissors through paper.
Uhh, yes they do, lol. If naruto with some senjutsu chakra was able to casually knock away three of animal paths summons, [
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@Bold: & No they don't always divide on contact, & the last scan of my previous paragraph proves that. Plus a shockwave isn't even physical contact, it's a force. [
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If the dogs can get burned to death or hurt by a rasengan then they can also get killed if slashed enough times.
& Do I have to explain myself again? I already told you how a casual sword swipe is all it takes to induce such a shockwave. Nagato gets crushed because as you said the shockwave is his threat, & since madara's attacks would only consist of shockwaves then I think you get the picture.
Just like how gravity beat a 6 tail kurama here? [
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Not going to take you seriously with that kind of nonsense, please read the manga. [
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Nagato doesn't have uchiha/senju dna, so he can't control it properly.
Don't know what you are trying to say,if it were cut in half,then the part fllying off would be the same or at least close to the size still left,the prt flying off was clearly quite smller than the part left
Gokage were hit by the wave,.
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of destruction is clearly all around them,not just at their side,here again,
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of them too.
Dosent matter how many times madara beats the dog aside,he can't get rid of it,the more dogs there are the more iuseless the shockwves are going to be as they will keep gettinng in the way.
6 tailed naruto anchored itself to the ground,thts the only reason it wasn't blown away,toads the size of bijuus were senbt flying from the centre of konoha several kilometres outside its boarders as they didn't anchor themselves,the sme thing happens to the shockwave and to madara's susnoo if they are not nchored in time.
About nagto matching the power of the shockwave,pain alone made konoha crater so big tht multiple bijuu sized summons could fit inside while fighting,and he did this while flying,not even on the ground. Konoha crater is thee size or even bigger thn vote,which took ps slashes,bijuudms nd moukton for a whole day to create. Yet nagto. Who shits on pain in power can't match one one slash? Funny
Slshes through the air are not making shockwaves that travel along the ground. Madara's first slash against hashi made no shockwave,the second one made the shockwave because it was close to the ground just like the one used on the kages.
Hashirtama wasn't hit by thhe shockwaves eiither, but simply jumped on the rocks that were flying throught the air.
You even have the scan nd you still can't see it. Madara clearly told obito that senju nd uchiha power were needed to awaken the rinnegan and thus could not control the mazo. He even went furtjer to emphasize on it and said that EVEV without the rinnegan he could stilll uise the mazo,that clearly shows that the rinnegan is what is really needed. Nevertheless, nagato is an uzumaki which descend from the senju nd has the eyes of madra which contains both uchiha and senju dna. So this point is moot. Nagato hs been using the mazo comfortably throughout anyway.
Shockwave will destroy an orb placed at the sky,not even gonna take that one seriiously.
Don't know what you are trying to say,if it were cut in half,then the part fllying off would be the same or at least close to the size still left,the prt flying off was clearly quite smller than the part left
No they wouldn't be close to the same size because the base of a mountain is much larger than the summit, & all the slashes were near the middle.
But regardless, what does the power of madara's shockwave have to do with anything? Nothing as it's still taking down what it needs to without a problem.
Gokage were hit by the wave,.
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of destruction is clearly all around them,not just at their side,here again,
No they weren't. They were close to the attack but they clearly weren't hit, the debris around them is simply collateral damage & all this does is further prove PS's destructive capability [that you're trying to downplay for some reason].
Dosent matter how many times madara beats the dog aside,he can't get rid of it,the more dogs there are the more iuseless the shockwves are going to be as they will keep gettinng in the way.
Yes he can, but he doesn't need to. Dogs go flying, they're nothing but insects to susanoo. They can't damage him & they don't have nearly enough power to restrain him, so as I said they go flying.
As for getting rid of them do you know what keeps the summons active & under nagato's control?
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The chakra stakes do, so regardless of the dog's durability once those stakes are either removed or destroyed the dog is out of commission.
6 tailed naruto anchored itself to the ground,thts the only reason it wasn't blown away,toads the size of bijuus were senbt flying from the centre of konoha several kilometres outside its boarders as they didn't anchor themselves,the sme thing happens to the shockwave and to madara's susnoo if they are not nchored in time.
Lol No. Deva path isn't destroying mountains with his comparatively measely st. The only thing that even has a chance at stopping a shockwave is cst & that's because it flattened a village, still not a mountain though. Anyways st isn't a mountain buster, so it isn't stopping a shockwave that is.
& As a side note susanoo tanks any & all forms of deva path with ease.
About nagto matching the power of the shockwave,pain alone made konoha crater so big tht multiple bijuu sized summons could fit inside while fighting,and he did this while flying,not even on the ground. Konoha crater is thee size or even bigger thn vote,which took ps slashes,bijuudms nd moukton for a whole day to create. Yet nagto. Who shits on pain in power can't match one one slash? Funny
Yeah it is funny considering the only jutsu he has which can do the feat you described is cst. & Cst not only disables deva path [which results in him getting murdered], but it's also easily tanked by PS, so all in all nagato's only way at stopping a shockwave involves using a jutsu that's utterly useless offensively & handicaps him to the point where he becomes fodder in comparison.
Slshes through the air are not making shockwaves that travel along the ground. Madara's first slash against hashi made no shockwave,the second one made the shockwave because it was close to the ground just like the one used on the kages.
Did I miss something? Why does susanoo need to slash the air again?
Anyways, first of all prove that the shockwaves aren't produced from the sword itself. As far as the manga has shown madara can release them whenever & wherever he wants, starting from the blade of his sword. Madara's first slash against hashi was stopped, & madara wasn't aiming anywhere near the air he was aiming his attack at the ground. The shockwave would've cut the ground but hashi stopped the sword before it could do that.
So if you're trying to suggest that madara's slash should've produced a shockwave in the air while coming down then you would be wrong. [
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Nothing tells me or implies that madara's shockwaves are something his swords produce automatically, but rather that he creates them himself.
Hashirtama wasn't hit by thhe shockwaves eiither, but simply jumped on the rocks that were flying throught the air.
And? You can see that hashi was too close to PS to be hit by the shockwaves.
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He was in the mokuton construct that got sliced in half & the shockwave starts at the end or tip of madara's sword. Hashi was within the sword's length so he couldn't have been hit unless it was from the sword itself.
You even have the scan nd you still can't see it. Madara clearly told obito that senju nd uchiha power were needed to awaken the rinnegan and thus could not control the mazo. He even went further to emphasize on it and said that EVEVN without the rinnegan he could still use the mazo,that clearly shows that the rinnegan is what is really needed. Nevertheless, nagato is an uzumaki which descend from the senju nd has the eyes of madra which contains both uchiha and senju dna. So this point is moot. Nagato hs been using the mazo comfortably throughout anyway.
Yeah, it's become clear that you can't interpret manga scans properly. Read the gosh darn quote, I'm getting a bit tired of spoon feeding you. Okay then... Madara told obito and I quote:"You can't awaken the rinnegan without uchiha/senju power". Okay we got that? Uchiha & senju dna is needed to awaken the rinnegan. Good, now the next quote: "AND you can't handle the mazou properly". Do you see what he's saying here? He's making an addition to his previous statement, without senju/uchiha power you can't awaken the rinnegan AND you can't handle the mazou properly.
The above paragraph confirms the fact that uchiha/senju dna is needed to control the mazou properly, now to cover his quote regarding nagato. "Half your[obito] body is made of senju cells, even if you don't awaken the rinnegan, you can still control the mazou". Clear as day, madara outright tells obito that the rinnegan is not needed. So please I'm begging you, tell me how on earth you think this clearly shows that the rinnegan is what's really needed. I went over the statement with you, word for word, yet all I see is evidence cementing the contrary & nothing more.
& As for your final sentence, at this point I'm starting to wonder if you ever read the manga at all. U_U [
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Shockwave will destroy an orb placed at the sky,not even gonna take that one seriiously
Well you better considering you still have no proof that a shockwave can't be launched through the air.
But I'll humor you as I always tend to do. Okay shockwaves can't be launched in the sky, then all madara has to do is ride the debris up to the orb & slash it in half once he reaches it, simple.
& I should say that I'm the one who shouldn't be taking any of this seriously, you literally contradicted the manga & your own words both in one sentence.
