Nagato Vs EMS Sasuke

Nagato vs Sasuke

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Avery Namikaze

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sharingan/MS/EMS can break any form of genjutsu. rinnegan is the next evolution of sharingan/MS/EMS as stated in the manga: .

'what awaits when you progress beyond the sharingan....... is the rinnegan'' in the next page: .
Dude I'm on your side. Nobody is completely "Immune" to it though, they enter it and must escape.

Why would he be affected differently than Pain? Nagato controls Pain with his own chakra, it would do the same to Nagato.
Pein is weaker because he must send his chakra to 6 different bodies, and to break free from genjutsu you must irregulate your chakra flow which would be much more difficult while controlling them rather than just doing it yourself.
 
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I have already refuted that argument. He never escaped it since he died while he was in it. That's not escaping, Jiraiya simply deactivated the genjutsu. Manga proves me right.
the fact that you have said he died in it means you don't know WTF you're talking about. let explain something that the manga stated in 2011 or 2012.

the six path of pain:
are 6 dead bodies being controlled by nagato's chakra that is being transmitted to the black rods which are chakra receivers, and allowing him to control them as if they were his own body using his chakra.

so how can pain can get killed when he is already a dead body? you don't know. jiraiya didn't kill pain because the 6 bodies are all dead bodies so he didn't kill them.

nagato didn't break the genjutsu because he wanted to make jiraiya let his guard down.

as i and the manga stated:

sharingan/MS/EMS can break any form of genjutsu. rinnegan is the next evolution of sharingan/MS/EMS as stated in the manga: .

'what awaits when you progress beyond the sharingan....... is the rinnegan'' in the next page: .

manga proves me right that rinnegan is immune to genjutsu.
 

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Fair enough but there is still nothing that suggests he can break any genjutsu.
Ik I even stated he's not immune.

Ironic since you're the idiot, maybe madara is better but all you have been saying is bullshit
You mean the bullshit I backed up with scans and manga proof? Get out of here troll. Watch Uchihamadara3 and learn how to debate -.-
 

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the fact that you have said he died in it means you don't know WTF you're talking about. let explain something that the manga stated in 2011 or 2012.

the six path of pain:
are 6 dead bodies being controlled by nagato's chakra that is being transmitted to the black rods which are chakra receivers, and allowing him to control them as if they were his own body using his chakra.

so can pain can get killed when he is already a dead body? you don't know. jiraiya didn't kill pain because the 6 bodies are all dead bodies so he didn't kill them.

nagato didn't break the genjutsu because he wanted to make jiraiya let his guard down.

as i and the manga stated:

sharingan/MS/EMS can break any form of genjutsu. rinnegan is the next evolution of sharingan/MS/EMS as stated in the manga: .

'what awaits when you progress beyond the sharingan....... is the rinnegan'' in the next page: .

manga proves me right that rinnegan is immune to genjutsu.
Lmao this guy, do you even know the definition of the word immune? He cant be immune if he was already caught in it.

Even if they werent killed they were still destroyed and maimed, a mere frog kata was powerful enough to KO Preta Path, a sword in the chest obviously destroyed them.

Also let me educate you: after Jiraiya destroyed the 3 bodies, Naraka Path arrived and proceeded to repair the 3 bodies, it's a manga fact so he did deactivate it.

manga proves you wrong.
 
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You call the crap you're saying debate lol
Yes, yes I do.

Lmao this guy, do you even know the definition of the word immune? He cant be immune if he was already caught in it.

Even if they werent killed they were still destroyed and maimed, a mere frog kata was powerful enough to KO Preta Path, a sword in the chest obviously destroyed them.

Also let me educate you: after Jiraiya destroyed the 3 bodies, Naraka Path arrived and proceeded to revive the 3 bodies, it's a manga fact.

manga proves you wrong.
This guy is right about Pein being defeated BY GENJUTSU.
 

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Lmao this guy, do you even know the definition of the word immune? He cant be immune if he was already caught in it.

Even if they werent killed they were still destroyed and maimed, a mere frog kata was powerful enough to KO Preta Path, a sword in the chest obviously destroyed them.

Also let me educate you: after Jiraiya destroyed the 3 bodies, Naraka Path arrived and proceeded to repair the 3 bodies, it's a manga fact so he did deactivate it.

manga proves you wrong.
this guy is retarded. he is using the same shitty examples and claims that the manga has countered.

this thread made me sick. :bye::bye::bye::bye:. have fun using the same shitty claims that has been countered.
 

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this guy is retarded. he is using the same shitty examples and claims that the manga has countered.

this thread made me sick. :bye::bye::bye::bye:. have fun using the same shitty claims that has been countered.
Lmao I don't think this idiot even know what he's talking about, he doesn't even realize how he's contradicting himself and how the manga actually proves him wrong.
You mean you're sick of being ridiculed?
It was about time you leave with your tail between you legs.
 

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Lmao I don't think this idiot even know what he's talking about, he doesn't even realize how he's contradicting himself and how the manga actually proves him wrong.
You mean you're sick of being ridiculed?
It was about time you leave with your tail between you legs.
You're the first reasonable Sasuke debater here. ^^
Ok, untill we see what ems can really do nagato>sasuke and as for you Avery, you need to learn not to over use cocaine

Peace out :D
Peace out man, take it easy. Also yeah, I should lay off the coke xD

No more arguments? Ok guys thread is closed, no point in arguing anymore. Cya around
 
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Nagato wins this........

Nagato has the 6 paths of pein..... Each path has a certain jutsu an skill.... Nagato is one of the strongest characters in Naruto.


1) Nagato's eye's are a higher form then EMS
2) Nagato's eyes are linked and share the same vision
- Therefore.... There are no blind spots, and genjutsu does not work (Ask your self would a puppet fall into a genjutsu)
3) Nagato's chakra pool is why larger
4) Nagato is more durable in battle
5) Nagato is more skilled in battle
6) Nagato has mastered all elements.... (In theory he can create what the Jubito is using)
7) Nagato is more versatile in battle.

Also Nagato's techniques are too much for sasuke to handle... His abilities are:
1) Ability too create a moon.
2) Ability too control Gravity.
3) Ability too control Life and death.
4) Ability to summon mythical beasts.
5) Ability suck people's soul from a mere touch.
6) Ability summon the hell god
7) Ability to summon the Gedo Mazo (Which turned out to be the ten tailed beast core)
8) Ability too disrupt and destroy chakra (Which by the are the black rods that he creates)
9) Ability too suck in any chakra based attacks (Any chakra based attacks)
10) Flaten an entire village in a mere second

I have seen many of you saying that sasuke can use amutrasu......... really ?!?!??
- Nagato can absorb amutrasu because it is chakra based... Is it not..... What's the difference between the normal fire jutsu and Amutrasu (One is hotter then the other and it's summoned differently)

- Let's say for arguments sake that Nagato can't absorb the flame...... Nagato can still summon something to block it such as the panda used to block jirayias fastest attack.
- If not the summoning, then Nagato could just use Push and pull.
- He can't push or pull........ That's fine Nagato would just switch too Asura path (Which turns his whole body into metal too block th amutrasu)

But you are forgetting something very important......... Nagato can sense when someone is about to use amutrasu, which gives Nagato ample time to not only defend but also counter attack. (Example Sasuke tries to use amutrasu, Nagato sends him flying into the air).

Another thing that you have too keep in mind that Naruto Vs Nagato/Pein...... Was Plot no Jutsu and Nagato was there to capture the nine tailed...... However in this case Nagato has a green light to kill straight away.
 
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Lol go look at Nagato's jutsu tell me if sasuke can counter all of them . Dont give me that skill's crap. We all know that overwhelming power beats skills.
Susano'o > Shinra Tensei

Kirin > Planetary Devastation

Amaturasu, Chidori, Susano'o > Preta Path


Doesn't matter, what you say or what you do. Sasuke would always be able to defeat Nagato. There is counters to all. States Itachi. And i'm pretty sure his Kirin would demolish his Planetetary Devastation.
 
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