Nagato still beats madara and Hashirama, potential to solo both together.

[yxcvb]

Deva, a weaker version of nagato (stated by Naruto) reduced a village to dust and used chibaku tensei after fighting the whole village and naruto sm. the paths were weaker than nagato and nagato weakened because gedo mazo sucked up his hole chakra.

-Nagato can still fly
-Nagato can still absorb any ninjutsu

if Mokuton and susanoo will attack him, preta path sucks up their ninjutsu. preta path does not have limits as stated in the data book, it is a barrier that blocks ninjutsu.

-Nagato reduces villages to dust, hashiramas forest and susanoo are not compard with.
-Chibaku Tensei is huger than several mountains.

one chou shinra tensei would reduce them to dust, chibaku tensei can not be countered by them canonically.

and if even this is not enough gedo mazo with multiple biju and soul removal dragon comes to play.

So.

Nagato flying + Preta Path activated + Shinra Tensei that reduces villages to dust + chibaku tensei (used through paths that are weaker than nagato) + gedo mazou.

+ the rinnegans other feats, all elements and the fact that nagato is a uzumaki.

A relative from the senju with rinnegan. thats to haxxed ppl.

 

[KidGamer65]

Stop fanboying. Nagato loses to both Hashirama, and Madara.

 

[Boston Rob]

Totsuka seals him anyday as always

 

[GiantShuriken]

He doesn't solo Edo Madara as that version has rinnegan as well.

But yeah, he probably solos either Madara and Hashi individually. Rinnegan > EMS by Manga hype. And Nagato has So6P's great body + dojutsu while Hashirama only has the body.

 

[Zexion~]

i say he it can go either way against hashirama but madara wins against him

 

[pateuvasiliu]

After I saw Hashi catch a Bijuudama and throw it back at the Kyuubi I am even more convinced that no one in the Narutoverse except the Sage beats him.

 

[jay2512]

After I saw Hashi catch a Bijuudama and throw it back at the Kyuubi I am even more convinced that no one in the Narutoverse except the Sage beats him.

Imagine hashi trying to catch a shinra tensei

 

[pateuvasiliu]

Imagine hashi trying to catch a shinra tensei

Bijuudama is stronger than a Shinra Tensei.

 

[Edo Odin]

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He loses to both.

 

[Kratos of cruxis]

No way he can beat them at all and there is no more potential for him to win he's dead

 

[Izuna Kakashi Senju]

He CANNOT solo them one on one he stands a chance but no way is he beating them together.

 

[BigBlade Master]

I disagree, he loose too both

Hashi wins low-diff

Madara wins no-diff

 

[Unorthodox]

After I saw Hashi catch a Bijuudama and throw it back at the Kyuubi I am even more convinced that no one in the Narutoverse except the Sage beats him.

didnt naruto do that to 5 bijuu damas in a instant???

also edo madara> hashirama

 

[Icelerate]

Deva, a weaker version of nagato (stated by Naruto) reduced a village to dust and used chibaku tensei after fighting the whole village and naruto sm. the paths were weaker than nagato and nagato weakened because gedo mazo sucked up his hole chakra.

Nagato put all his power into the chou shinra tensei and had turned off all his other paths so it was Nagato's full power.

-Nagato can still fly
-Nagato can still absorb any ninjutsu

Both Madara and Hashirama have the means to hit Nagato in the air. Madara has the PS sword slash which Nagato can't fly away from and Hashirama's mokuton can allow him to go into the air and reach Nagato. As for Nagato absorbing ninjutsu, a PS sword slash will create a massive shock wave that will kill Nagato or force him to use chou shinra tensei. If Nagato does that, he won't be able to use Deva's abilities and thus another attack from Madara ends Nagato. Hashirama's wood release transforms into real life trees. Saying Nagato can absorb mokuton completely is like saying Nagato can absorb any plant of life form. I agree he can absorb the chakra to turn the trees dead but those trees will fall on top of him and crush him.

if Mokuton and susanoo will attack him, preta path sucks up their ninjutsu. preta path does not have limits as stated in the data book, it is a barrier that blocks ninjutsu.

I just went over this. Preta path doesn't make Nagato completely invincible.

-Nagato reduces villages to dust, hashiramas forest and susanoo are not compard with.
-Chibaku Tensei is huger than several mountains.

Nagato reduces villages to dust at a great cost to him. He won't be able to use Deva''s abilities any more and it uses up a lot of chakra. All Hashirama has to do is put up flower tree world and Nagato is put to sleep. Without chou shinra tensei, I don't see Nagato destroying flower tree world. PS ends Nagato.

one chou shinra tensei would reduce them to dust, chibaku tensei can not be countered by them canonically.

Hashirama puts up a massive wall of trees to reduce the impact and the remaining force can be healed from due to Hashirama's regenerative abilities being on par with Tsunade, who also tanked the chou shinra tensei and healed the villagers. PS effortlessly tanks chou shinra tensei and it's sword slash slices CT and its core in half. Hashirama will have trouble counter CT but if he can restrain the gravitational orb with mokuton and dragged to the ground, CT could be rendered useless since it would simply create a new battlefield for Nagato and Hashirama to fight on.

and if even this is not enough gedo mazo with multiple biju and soul removal dragon comes to play.

So.

Gedo Mazo is restrained by mokuton with ease and susanoo takes care of it too. The soul removal dragon can be blocked by a defence such as a wooden dome or susanoo.

Nagato flying + Preta Path activated + Shinra Tensei that reduces villages to dust + chibaku tensei (used through paths that are weaker than nagato) + gedo mazou.

Too bad Nagato himself can't do all that at once.

+ the rinnegans other feats, all elements and the fact that nagato is a uzumaki.

Even if Nagato has mastery of all five elements and his level of raiton is on par with Sasuke's, fuuton on par with Temari's, doton on par with Kitsuchi, katon on par with Madara and suiton on par with Kisame, it still wouldn't be enough.

Nagato loses both fights mid difficulty.

 

[OfficialRikudouSennin]

Agreed

 

[Lilt]

But yeah, he probably solos either Madara and Hashi individually. Rinnegan > EMS by Manga hype. And Nagato has So6P's great body + dojutsu while Hashirama only has the body.

Nagato isn't a true master of the Rinnegan though, because the Rinnegan encompasses Sharingan abilities.

i.e. only Madara can access the full power of his eyes.

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Nagato merely had them transplanted into him.

And besides that, it's been indicated that Nagato's usage of the Rinnegan is about equal to Itachi's Mangekyō.

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Let alone Mangekyō like Obito's (double-Mangekyō Obito is a monster) or Shisui.

In the above image, Itachi is hyping a true master of the Rinnegan: Madara.

Someone who has access to both Mangekyō and Rinnegan abilities, and combines them.

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Kabuto, who had Nagato, hypes Hashirama more imo.

Madara also hypes Hashiram. Moreover, Nagato was stressed against 8-tailed Kurama.

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That's Madara's partner and pet. Plus Perfect Susano'o. Plus Amaterasu, Tsukuyomi, etc.

Long story short, Nagato wouldn't keep up with Madara or Hashirama.

 

[Edo Odin]

Nagato isn't a true master of the Rinnegan though, because the Rinnegan encompasses Sharingan abilities.

i.e. only Madara can access the full power of his eyes.

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Nagato merely had them transplanted into him.

And besides that, it's been indicated that Nagato's usage of the Rinnegan is about equal to Itachi's Mangekyō.

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Let alone Mangekyō like Obito's (double-Mangekyō Obito is a monster) or Shisui.

In the above image, Itachi is hyping a true master of the Rinnegan: Madara.

Someone who has access to both Mangekyō and Rinnegan abilities, and combines them.

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Kabuto, who had Nagato, hypes Hashirama more imo.

Madara also hypes Hashiram. Moreover, Nagato was stressed against 8-tailed Kurama.

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That's Madara's partner and pet. Plus Perfect Susano'o. Plus Amaterasu, Tsukuyomi, etc.

Long story short, Nagato wouldn't keep up with Madara or Hashirama.

I agree with everything you said, aside from that last pic. It wasn't Nagato who was scared, it was Yamato, Nagato didn't even appear in that page. You can see that it was him who had the number of the tails on his arm [

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Other than that, like I said, I agree. I believe a "^This" is a appropriate xd

 

[Lilt]

I didn't mean to indicate that he was scared, merely that the 8-tails was giving him some trouble.

Even if he said "I can't believe the Nine Tails has so much power..."

To his credit, he thought he could seal it with a bigger Chibaku Tensei.

But that was just 8-tails by itself. 9-tails with Perfect Susano'o and Madara is another ball park.

 

[Edo Odin]

I didn't mean to indicate that he was scared, merely that the 8-tails was giving him some trouble.

Even if he said "I can't believe the Nine Tails has so much power..."

To his credit, he thought he could seal it with a bigger Chibaku Tensei.

But that was just 8-tails by itself. 9-tails with Perfect Susano'o and Madara is another ball park.

I see, the "he was stressed" part confused me a bit.

Well, I do think that if he hadn't spent so much chakra on Konoha, he would have been able to seal the Kyuubi, even in 9-tails mode, as he didn't really seem doubtful at all about him being able to suppress the Kyuubi. Still, the Perfect Susanoo along with it would be too much no doubt, especially due to how easily he was able to bust mountains with the sword.

 

[lol99]

read chapter 621 and cry