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Re: Why ( Healthy ) Nagato > BM Naruto and KM Naruto

Why ( Healthy ) Nagato > BM Naruto and KM Naruto

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Hey, I know why, cuz you are a Nagato fanboy! xd :y :D
 
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Re: Why ( Healthy ) Nagato > BM Naruto and KM Naruto

Nagato > BM Naruto? what?

Yeah, in the time Preta is absorbing TBB Naruto freezes and can't move. And a move of such a large scale like TBB will be sucked up in 2 seconds? Totally right.
 
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Re: Why ( Healthy ) Nagato > BM Naruto and KM Naruto

I'm not so sure, healthy Nagato>KM but he loses that over powered advantage of preta if naruto is in SM, so healthy Nagato<SM. BM Naruto is stronger than Nagato, way too fast& powerfull for nagato to keep up. i hope that eventually naruto will be able to combine BM with SM to create the ultimate form, BSM! will murder Nagato mid difficulty.
 
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Re: Why ( Healthy ) Nagato > BM Naruto and KM Naruto

UchihaMadara01 said:
Healthy Nagato can defeat BM/KM/SM naruto.

Why?

If naruto goes BM/KM/SM, he could use preta path and suck up his chakra in a matter of seconds just like he did with Killer bee.

Plus if naruto tries to attack in the 5 seconds interval, nagato always has his taijutsu or he could maybe use ninjutsu for the first time.

And dont say TBB, nagato could suck that just like he could to susano. And it doesn't matter if it is TTB with wind chakra.

And then he uses Chibaku tensei, and if naruto tries to attack, he could use shinra tensei.

naruto is Finished.

I know this is going to set of a flame war with naruto fanboys, but i don't give a shyt coz they need to wake up to the truth.

However later on in the manga naruto would surpass Nagato. After all hes one of the Main characters so he has pen no jutsu with him.

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agreed 100 percent+rep nagato would kill naruto if he wants to nagato has the sage of six path rinnegan and naruto doesn't have ten tails even.

you five great nations think you know pain you start a war and in your war destroys the poor you think you are the only ones who matter this peace of yours has made you in a blind but today konoha will know pain feel pain see pain shinra tensei.
 
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Re: Enough, Naruto never has and (IMO) Never Will beat Nagato.

Cerox0 said:
Do not bother posting if your not going to read. If you are a naruto Fanboy i strongly suggest you do read. If you are a hater, I suggest you take your business elsewhere.

So lately the Naruto bandwagon train has gotten out of control and I feel like I should slow it down with a serious speed bump. (I thought Uchiha fans were bad but this breed of narutards is on a whole nother level.)

The fact of the matter is, Indeed Naruto is strong, but he never has, and never will Beat Nagato. Here are some point's to support my statement.

1.Let's start back at the SM Naruto (and his summons) vs 6 Paths of Pain (handicapped)

Clearly you see it being stated the most powerful of the paths, Deva Path not being able to us his powers. (Hence why any path was taken out)

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In the end, once his powers returned look where Naruto is left off

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To Summarize, I hope you understand
  • The entire Fight pain had no intent to kill, but to capture.
  • Naruto would have been in that position since the start of the fight if Deva had his powers.
  • Pain says " I avoided any vital wounds" in other words he could have ended naruto's life right there if he wanted to, but of course plot requires the Akatsuki needing kurama.
2.Next, It took 8 Tails to get out of Celestiel Terra Blast and as Pain said, all he had to do was make a bigger one.

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Note: It may not seem like a valid point but we will get back to it further down this thread.

Yes I understand in the end he defeated pain, but only after every other path was gone (which they never would have if Deva had his powers from the start). Plus, it was Pain, NOT Nagato as he is still alive.

3. Now, on to the meeting. This has been one of the biggest trolls in Naruto history and is unforgivable. This is when Kishi went crazy. He creates the 3rd SO6P, a Mini God, Still one of the strongest Chars in Naruto today and he loses to WORDS? There is no denying plot no jutsu exists when one of the strongest characters just "disappears" because he had a conversation with a weaker opponent and felt SO BAD for destroying everything Naruto knew and loved, he gave up his life to bring everyone back.

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If your going to question whether Naruto could have defeated Nagato had they fought your wrong. Naruto had one more shot at SM which would not last him long enough to survive Nagato, he already lost 2 clones fighting 5 paths with Deva still alive and without his powers, he could not defeat Nagato who wields all their powers at once.

4. Now that we establish he defeated Pain (NOT Nagato) by plot, onto the war.

KM Naruto as well stands no Chance, while he showed some impressive feats such as surviving Bansho Tenin, He could do nothing to Nagato.

Exhibit A. he got caught by Asura path and was going to Die with the combo of Preta and Naraka Path.

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Exhibit B. Not only did he get caught, but continued failing by using his Rasengan despite having knowledge that Nagato could absorb it. Thus proving even if Naruto has some strenght to match Nagato, he has no brains whatsoever to keep up with him.
(P.S don't gimme that b.s that he was trying to see if Nagato was controlled, as in the next slide I show he was trapped for good, why would he put himself to be in a position he could not get out and die just to test if Nagato lost his personality?)
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Exhibit C. All this Time Itachi was free thanks to K.A, so this was all Nagato's doing. Not only did Naruto fail, but his not so smarter Teacher get's caught as well. (Honestly name anything they could have done to get out, they were getting their chakra sucked dry/ their souls)

(Another P.S that sm trick would not have worked since it was a summoning holding Naruto, and Preta path wouldbe used to just absorb attacks. Nagato was just sucking out his soul. Unlike Naruto he learns from his mistakes)

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Like I said, Killer Bee is of no use.

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Exhibit D. Oh look, as usual Itachi has to save them both. (Had it not been for Itachi, Naruto would have yet again died and the war would have been lossed)

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Exhibit E. Remember my CT point earlier? Here we see Naruto say " how it's on a whole nother level", meaning Nagato could have done this back in their previous fight.

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Once again, proving Naruto does not have the brains to defeat Nagato and looses his cool (as a shinobi never should). Meanwhile Itachi is solving every problem (the weakness, not needing to aim, etc)

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5. It is debatable whether current BM Naruto has the power to destroy CT by himself. Regardless he did not figure it out and showed no sign of ever figuring it out. Not to mention it was a1 v 3 for Nagato, as I said many times it would have been over a long time ago.

As for BM Naruto vs 100% Healthy Nagato.

  • One if it's Edo Nagato, he cannot win as he has no sealing techniques.
  • Preta Path cancels every attack Naruto has
  • The Summoning give him 100% vision to everything and can keep up with his speed
  • Shinra Tensei once again cancels everything, TBB or not.
  • Asura gives him advantage against multiple clones, with his arms and Missles to take out numerous Narutos
  • Naruto can do nothing against Human Path
  • He did not figure out how to stop CT and it would crush him.
I'd post pics On the last Part about BM but it's pretty self explanatory.

Arguments I will receive.

  • Yes preta path can infact absorb a TBB and all, it has never failed to absorb anything.
  • The Dog summoning will survive as Naruto has no way of gettng rid of them, so his 100% Vision will not go away.
  • Shinra tensei never failed to push anything
  • It's debatable whether he can stop CT even if he had info on it.

You may flame me, or somehow Change my mind (Although I doubt it) feel free to take this however you'd like.
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Guy, all these ma WASH!!Naruto's the main man...and as such,he aint gonna be defeated:cool:,at least,not nowYou really really underestimate Naruto and at the same time,overestimate Nagato:D
 
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Re: Why ( Healthy ) Nagato > BM Naruto and KM Naruto

Btw

If nagato can even lay his hands on naruto at his current speed, (current not before nagato got sealed), then he deserves to be hokage.
 
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Re: Why ( Healthy ) Nagato > BM Naruto and KM Naruto

You're right, Healthy Nagato>BM Naruto.

Also Naurto w/rinnegan>Nagato.

Prime Hiruzen>Sick Oro

Ramen>Ramen guy if he were allergic to ramen.

Sakura>Sasuke w/o arms, legs or eyes.

Jiraiya>Itachi with no brain.

But as far as the manga goes, where Itachi has a brain, Sasuke has eyes and limbs, ramen guy isn't allergic to his own food, hiruzen was old, Naruto doesn't have the rinnegan and Nagato is unhealthy...

BM Naruto>Nagato.

+rep simply because I like the thread, but just so you know, going out of your way to give Nagato a condition he doesn't have in the manga (being healthy) just to make him stronger than another character, is kind of a fanboy move too imo. Next time just make the thread. calling people fanboys only encourages people to start arguing :shrug:
 
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Re: Why ( Healthy ) Nagato > BM Naruto and KM Naruto

Oh great like if the hiruzen and hashirama threads weren't enough now its Naruto and nagato U_U but I disagree, even though its true that nagato can absorb most of naruto's techniques he can't counter his speed while he is BM so Naruto in BM could actually kill him high difficulty and even KM Naruto would be a problem for him since he can just make an army of KM clones, that one time that nagato owned KM naruto, naruto was not even fighting, I don't consider that a fight since he couldn't move, if he would had the time to make some clones he would have give nagato some trouble so naruto if he fights nagato like he was at the beginning of the war he could pretty much own nagato because he can just make an army of SM clones and KM clones, BM is overkill.
 
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