Nagato must have awakened his Rinnegan naturally

[akshayhp]

I agree with some of this, but the bold is wrong. Sasuke has tsukyomi, it just isn't as strong as Itachi's.

Also, Nagato most likely didn't awaken the rinnegan himself.

sasuke does not have tsukoyomi.
he just has the genjutsu he gets from the sharingan

 

[akshayhp]

Or mayb Madara gave his Rinnegan to Nagato, n transplantd Uchiha Shishui's Sharingan cuz Shishui's Sharingan is knwn 4 his genjutsu n da ability to control people tiz explains above people's questions

shisui gave one sharingan to itachi and danzo took the other

 

[Amaterasuice]

sasuke does not have tsukoyomi.
he just has the genjutsu he gets from the sharingan

It says to have susannoo u need both Tsukyomi+Amaterasu.

Also, he has used it b4.

 

[akshayhp]

It says to have susannoo u need both Tsukyomi+Amaterasu.

Also, he has used it b4.

but isnt tsukoyomi a genjutsu?
why should it be need for susanno.
also madara does not have tsukoyomi or ameterasu

 

[Dead Demon Consuming Seal]

until prove otherwise i agree

 

[Outbreak]

Tell me how ?

3. How can Uzumaki awaken the Dojutsu which belongs to the other clan? Not possible.

No, Kakashi awakened the Sharingan to Mangekyou Sharingan. I can't see how a Uzumaki can't awaken stronger leveled eyes than a Hatake.

 

[Kira was Righteous]

until prove otherwise i agree

Thanks at least your open minded

No, Kakashi awakened the Sharingan to Mangekyou Sharingan. I can't see how a Uzumaki can't awaken stronger leveled eyes than a Hatake.

Especially if said Uzumaki is half uchiha

 

[Ultimatelifeform]

You guys will soon come to realize that the so6p was an uzumaki.

 

[Inverness]

Or maybe Madara just went ahead and did that later/Obito gave Madara's eyes to Nagato after Madara's death.

But I hope Nagato's Rinnegan evolved naturally. The Sharingan gets way too much attention already...how about preserving some of the mysteries regarding the Rinnegan?

Agreed

 

[6PathsofKami]

I'm guessing that Madara gave Nagato his eyes and just used some other random Sharingan. Although they must of been powerful considering that he must have been the one to control the Mizukage

Wrong it was Obito who controlled the mizukage, someone made a thread recenty explaining it all.

Imo Madara did an experiment on Nagato and awaken the Rinnegan, he then did the same experiment on himself 'shortly before death' and awakened them on himself, no other way I can see it.

 

[Sephy100]

Just because Nagato is older than Obito doesn't mean that Madara couldn't have given Nagato his eyes. Why is this such a hard concept to understand?

 

[Tayhlor Uchiha]

Madara never gave his actual eyes , to obtain the rinnegan and use it's power competently you need both Uchiha and senju DNA , so all he needed was some Uchiha power that he would have obtained by the real Madara , Madara would've known this by reading the shrine in the Uchiha hideout

 

[Tayhlor Uchiha]

Wrong it was Obito who controlled the mizukage, someone made a thread recenty explaining it all.

Imo Madara did an experiment on Nagato and awaken the Rinnegan, he then did the same experiment on himself 'shortly before death' and awakened them on himself, no other way I can see it.

You fool , obito doesn't have long hair ! This explains that it was the real Madara that put a genjutsu on the mizukage

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[KidGamer65]

You fool , obito doesn't have long hair ! This explains that it was the real Madara that put a genjutsu on the mizukage

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Except that MADARA WAS AN OLD MAN BY THAT TIME.

 

[Soko94]

Personally, I don't believe that Madara gave his eyes to Nagato. At least not transplanted firsthand. Keep in mind that the one who said he "gave" (he's not specific about how he gave it to him - he could have indirectly awakened then) Nagato his Rinnegan was Obito while he was still masquerading as Madara. Little hard to take what the guy was saying seriously at the time. That being said, I believe Obito said something along the lines of the 'eyes being for him' and 'his eyes in the first place'... he may not literally mean they were his or Madara's own eyeballs... but for the use of reviving Madara and doing stuff with the Gedo Mazo.

All in all, it's a possibility that Madara transplanted his eyes back then and had transplanted Sharingan when he saved Obito, or that some space/time ninjutsu was done to take Madara's eyes back in time after he died to transplant them into Nagato. I just don't think it's LIKELY, and more likely that the eyes "belonging to" Obito and Madara meant more in term of what they would be used for instead of them being Madara's actual eyeballs.

 

[UchiHaHaHa]

Interesting...

 

[Vexorian]

Tell me how ?

1. It is a FACT, that Rinnegan comes from evolving Sharingan witch is going beyond EMS limits, that's what we know.
2. Rinnegan is Uchiha dojutsu it is 100% same as awakening the Sharingan.
3. How can Uzumaki awaken the Dojutsu which belongs to the other clan? Not possible.
4. Did nagato had ordinary Sharingan ? - NO. Did he went beyond EMS limits ? - NO.
5. Madara was the only one who told he himself awakened Rinnegan.
6. Nagato used Gedo Mazo at a 16~ years age. HOW did he knew about it without anybody telling him / reading uchiha stone tablet ?
7. Madara gave him his eyes to revive him, he found Obito and entrusted his Reviving and whole plan to him.
8. Madara passed down Rinnegan alongside with all of it techniques.

READ both threads on my signature.

Hold up, we do not know for sure whether it's an Uchiha Dojutsu or not. That's simply an assumption that it's limited to Uchiha only. We don't know the PRECISE requirements, so for all we know a Senju that steals a set of EMS could just as easily unlock the Rinnegan. I don't do assumptions, I do facts.

I am also assuming that Leprechauns ride Unicorns that run on rainbows, and they hide their pots of gold in the clouds. That is probably not the case, the same goes for your theories.

 

[LinkTheBastardChild]

in which manga is it said that evolving the ems to rinnegan is the only way to awaken those eyes? the so6p had the rinnegan and nothing hints him having the ems before
And where is it said that the rinnegan belongs to the uchiha clan?

Great point i was hoping that someone would stop saying something different over the Fourth war arc thank you and +rep

 

[LinkTheBastardChild]

Tell me how ?

1. It is a FACT, that Rinnegan comes from evolving Sharingan witch is going beyond EMS limits, that's what we know.
2. Rinnegan is Uchiha dojutsu it is 100% same as awakening the Sharingan.
3. How can Uzumaki awaken the Dojutsu which belongs to the other clan? Not possible.
4. Did nagato had ordinary Sharingan ? - NO. Did he went beyond EMS limits ? - NO.
5. Madara was the only one who told he himself awakened Rinnegan.
6. Nagato used Gedo Mazo at a 16~ years age. HOW did he knew about it without anybody telling him / reading uchiha stone tablet ?
7. Madara gave him his eyes to revive him, he found Obito and entrusted his Reviving and whole plan to him.
8. Madara passed down Rinnegan alongside with all of it techniques.

READ both threads on my signature.

+rep nice job

 

[uchiha0106]

What are the majority off y'all talkin about?!?!?! Nagato has never had a sharingan! He was a rinnegan user only! That old man you see at the end of the latest manga chapter is Madara! I think he survived cause from the looks of the fight between him and the 1st he can rewind time with the mangekyo sharingan. Talkin about Nagato trasplanted eyes with Madara. Y'all sound ridiculous! The only purpose Nagato served was to revive Madara with the rinnegan which was all apart of Madara's plan which he had Obito to fulfill. That's why Obito said he gave Nagato the rinnegan in the first place just to revive Madara later on. This was ll Madara's plan and Nagato has never had a sharingan! Eliminate that theory! The only question, which is to be revealed, is how did Madara save Obito. Period. That is all. Y'all are making Naruto waaaaay more complicated than it is.