Nagato must have awakened his Rinnegan naturally

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Some people said there's a plot hole about Madara giving Nagato his Rennigan, but I dont think there's a plot hole

During the 3rd great war, Madara was still alive and was very old as it has been show in the current manga.
Jiraya didnt meet Nagato to train him until after d war, when the 3 sennins were head home.

Someone mentioned that Jiraya had not trained the forth hokage... I for one will say ur brain and eyes are dead and need fixing by Madara or Zetsu....because if u follow the time line well, U will notice that Jiraya had already trained Minato before Minato married Kushina and before Minato became hokage. As at the 3 great war time, Minato was already a sensei (of Kakashi, Obito and Rin), thereby suggesting that he had already finished his preliminary trainings with Jiraya at a younger age (because he was considered an excellent student, who only appear once in a life time and started under Jiraya's wings from his youth, I think even before he was 12).

As for Madara giving Nagato his eyes, that happened just after d war, by then he had already rescued Obito during the war hence Obito was with him and knew about it. It was also possible to give Nagato the eyes because d war had just finished and the Uchihas were still around; so some might have died during the war and Madara just took their eyes or may be he go some Sharingan some other way :shrug:
But what bothers me is that when Itachi went to meet Madara for help to murder d Uchihas, it was actually Obito that he met up with and not Madara, therefore Obito had long hair like Madara at some point because it couldnt have been Madara himself since he was very old when he saved Obito.
nagato was 10 year in the 2 ninja war that was the war went jiraiya get the sanin name........

obito die in the 3 ninja war
 

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Madara knows an awful lot about nagato, i think he is his dad, and he impregnated an uzumaki and left her. The rinnegan was his form of child support.
Loool
no obito said he planted the eyes into nagato so it was obito that planted maderas eyes in nagato so that pretty much throws this post out the window
... you do realise that obito wasnt even born when Nagato awakened his Rinnegan right? Get your timeline right once you have read this thread and realize the transplant theory is basically impossible
 

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OR MAYBE Obito took Madara's eyes out after he died and gave them to Nagato. When Madara is Edo Tensei'd, he'll be born the way he died, with both his eyes.

Just like with Itachi and Nagato when Sasuke took Itachi's eyes and Obito took Nagato's eye... :/
 

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guys see here this guys are not senju and not uchiha and not uzumaki

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but here the raykage said the have to be distaly related to the sage

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so the sage have 2 son welll they need woman to bring kids to the world.....

i think in i era, from the 2 son the uzumaki was born......
 
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remember it was said that madara awakened his rinnegan before he was "defeated". it turns out tht he was the victor and was able to absorb the 1st"s cells. in this episode 601 it shows us madara old and grey. he probably realise that there was more to his rinnegan so mayb he did transplant them into nagato as he was just a young boy so he would grow with the rinnegan and make it evolve and when the time is right retrieve his eyes. of course madara would have other sharringan eyes at his disposal...i mean..he IS madara after all

i do stand corrected.
 

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The Uchiha, as descendants of the Older Brother, inherited the eyes of the Sage. By this, it is plausible for the Uchiha Sharingan to progress to Rinnegan - Madara said to have awakened his Rinnegan shortly before his death.

The Uzumaki are distant relatives of the Senju. The Senju, as descendants of the Younger Son, were chosen as the successor of the Sage of Six Paths - Incarnates of the Sage of Six Paths, an Uzumaki(Nagato) in this case, may naturally appear in this lineage.

The abilities of both Rinnegan may essentially be the same. The difference lies in that while the Older Brother and his descendants stand to inherit the eyes and its abilities, the Younger Brother and his descendants, as successors, give rise to incarnates - inheriting both the eyes and the body.

“It was said that in times when the world is in disorder, a person is sent down from the heavens to become either a "God of Creation" who will calm the world, or a "Destroyer" who will reduce everything to nothingness.” - Naruto Third Databook




"In my dream, you, who are solely pervy, will still manage to become a splendid shinobi. And will come to stand on your own feet, acquiring disciples... One such disciple will one day bring about a great change to the world of shinobi... either great stability or great destruction... the likes of which this world has never seen before." - Great Toad Sage

As you can see, both quotes speak about Nagato, and they both speak about the same thing. Nagato was that incarnate that was supposed to either calm the world or destroy it, but he turned out to be the one who destroys it.

Now, I'm not saying that every Senju/Uzumaki has the ability to awaken the Rinnegan – all I'm saying is that the Senju/Uzumaki have the chance to possess the Rinnegan due to them being the descendants of the Younger Son and the successors of the Sage. They were chosen by the Sage to be his successors, so it should be logical for the 'incarnate' to be a descendant of the Younger Son(Senju/Uzumaki/Nagato).
this is the true here is what manga stats nagato is the incarnet of the sage...

the uchiha and senju are descendant of the sage

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remember it was said that madara awakened his rinnegan before he was "defeated". it turns out tht he was the victor and was able to absorb the 1st"s cells. in this episode 601 it shows us madara old and grey. he probably realise that there was more to his rinnegan so mayb he did transplant them into nagato as he was just a young boy so he would grow with the rinnegan and make it evolve and when the time is right retrieve his eyes. of course madara would have other sharringan eyes at his disposal...i mean..he IS madara after all

i do stand corrected.
And you will be. Just because Madara survived doesnt mean he was the victor. He still lost.
He even admitted it himself.
 

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The Uchiha, as descendants of the Older Brother, inherited the eyes of the Sage. By this, it is plausible for the Uchiha Sharingan to progress to Rinnegan - Madara said to have awakened his Rinnegan shortly before his death.

The Uzumaki are distant relatives of the Senju. The Senju, as descendants of the Younger Son, were chosen as the successor of the Sage of Six Paths - Incarnates of the Sage of Six Paths, an Uzumaki(Nagato) in this case, may naturally appear in this lineage.

The abilities of both Rinnegan may essentially be the same. The difference lies in that while the Older Brother and his descendants stand to inherit the eyes and its abilities, the Younger Brother and his descendants, as successors, give rise to incarnates - inheriting both the eyes and the body.

“It was said that in times when the world is in disorder, a person is sent down from the heavens to become either a "God of Creation" who will calm the world, or a "Destroyer" who will reduce everything to nothingness.” - Naruto Third Databook




"In my dream, you, who are solely pervy, will still manage to become a splendid shinobi. And will come to stand on your own feet, acquiring disciples... One such disciple will one day bring about a great change to the world of shinobi... either great stability or great destruction... the likes of which this world has never seen before." - Great Toad Sage

As you can see, both quotes speak about Nagato, and they both speak about the same thing. Nagato was that incarnate that was supposed to either calm the world or destroy it, but he turned out to be the one who destroys it.

Now, I'm not saying that every Senju/Uzumaki has the ability to awaken the Rinnegan – all I'm saying is that the Senju/Uzumaki have the chance to possess the Rinnegan due to them being the descendants of the Younger Son and the successors of the Sage. They were chosen by the Sage to be his successors, so it should be logical for the 'incarnate' to be a descendant of the Younger Son(Senju/Uzumaki/Nagato).
this is the true here is what manga stats nagato is the incarnet of the sage...

the uchiha and senju are descendant of the sage

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Senju has the Sage's body & Uchiha inhereted his eyes.

The key word in your first quote is "It is said" which means it is not fact but pure speculation.

Madara proved what it takes to obtain the Rinnengan; Sharingan & Senju DNA (which obtained from Hashi) when combined it replicates the complete being that was known as the SO6P.

Long story short; Nagato's eyes were given to him.
 

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Madara didn't even awaken the Rinnegan until shortly before his death, which supposedly was a while after he met Obito considering they had a full blown scheme and presumably had during their time together trained Obito. And from what I know, he would've just entrusted the safe keeping of his eyes to Nagato after his death because Madara doesn't strike me as the guy of kind of guy to just happily give his uber powerful eyes to anyone, nor does he strike me as someone who would use any sharingan that's not "worthy" of his sockets.
 

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Senju has the Sage's body & Uchiha inhereted his eyes.

The key word in your first quote is "It is said" which means it is not fact but pure speculation.

Madara proved what it takes to obtain the Rinnengan; Sharingan & Senju DNA (which obtained from Hashi) when combined it replicates the complete being that was known as the SO6P.

Long story short; Nagato's eyes were given to him.
the you read my post the manga said the supreme eye appear in chaotic times - will it bring creation or destroction.....

nagato was send from heaven to bring peace o destroction........
well you dont read the manga so you lose
 

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Or maybe Madara just went ahead and did that later/Obito gave Madara's eyes to Nagato after Madara's death.

But I hope Nagato's Rinnegan evolved naturally. The Sharingan gets way too much attention already...how about preserving some of the mysteries regarding the Rinnegan?

i agree, btw take out all SPECIAL EYES and bijuu's and what do you get? Regular people.

i wonder if no "POWER UPS" = senju stamina or, uchiha sharingan ~> rinnegan. Who whoud be top tiers other than hokage's????

My vote shikimaru, since hes a strategist.
 
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