Nagato & Itachi VS Naruto & Sasuke

Who would emerge victorious?

  • Naruto & Sasuke - Flawlessly!

    Votes: 1 4.8%
  • Nagato & Itachi - Walks away unscathed.

    Votes: 10 47.6%
  • Naruto & Sasuke - Just barely!

    Votes: 5 23.8%
  • Nagato & Itachi - Within an inch of their lives intact.

    Votes: 5 23.8%

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Uchiha Dan

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Naruto's shadow clones aren't susceptible to genjutsu, and each one of them is capable of taking on kages and winning.
Naruto can make at least 12 of these and hold the tech for hours, making it not a stretch to say he can probably make double that number if fully rested. And he doesn't even need 12 of them to win this fight. 6 will be more than enough.

Add into the mix the possibility of ninetails snapping the original out of genjutsu and Naruto handily takes this by himself.
True true! Numbers game can be played here with Naruto's kage bunshins and they sure can last long.. if they do not get violently hit, however... How strong is his defense? In particular, how strong is the clones defense iWonder?

I reckon a well timed Almighty Push could clear most of his clones at one shot and the original will be left standing alone.

If not that one swipe of Itachi's Susanoo blade can clear his clones in a jiffy and then some! XD
 

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Nagato vs Sasuke - Nagato with all his 6 paths , then Sasuke doesnt have a chance even though he has EMS , ( Though we dont know its powers ) Its simply like Nagato pwnes him easily.

Itachi vs Naruto - Itachi full health with no disease is at an advantage because he has high reserves of chakra which makes his susanoo' go out longer , and though genjutsu doesnt work on KM Naruto ( because of chakra inflow ) he still has Koto amatsukumi. So anyways Itachi has a upper hand in this battle.

The result Nagato and Itachi win
Well said! Thanks for the info!
I did not know that KM Naruto was insusceptible to genjutsu. WOW!

One more thing, this is a tag match. Naruto & Sasuke would be intellectual enough to realize that they are no match 1 on 1 right? Same goes for the other side as well.

My Point:
Nagato & Itachi make an Awesome Shield & Sword combo (Nagato's Almighty Push & Itachi's Susanoo Swiping Skills apart from amaterasu etc.. ) pitted against Naruto & Sasuke, iToo think they not have a chance in whatsoever. =]
 

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True true! Numbers game can be played here with Naruto's kage bunshins and they sure can last long.. if they do not get violently hit, however... How strong is his defense? In particular, how strong is the clones defense iWonder?

I reckon a well timed Almighty Push could clear most of his clones at one shot and the original will be left standing alone.

If not that one swipe of Itachi's Susanoo blade can clear his clones in a jiffy and then some! XD
KM clone durability feats extend from being able to tank three sword hits with an arm with no damage, and running into a tree with enough force to destroy the tree and sustain no damage. Also the clones can use seven chakra arms which can brace themselves against shinra tensei and reflect it back at deva like the six-tails did, or simply tank it and close in on him within the 5-second interval.

KM clones have at least V1 raiton armor speed and will most likely be able to easily avoid the totsuka sword, but even if they can't they can just stay out of its range and spam rasenshurikens from more than two directions at itachi's susanoo. This is all under the assumption that itachi can form his susanoo before being completely destroyed by a barrage of rasenshurikens guided by chakra arms.
 

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KM clone durability feats extend from being able to tank three sword hits with an arm with no damage, and running into a tree with enough force to destroy the tree and sustain no damage. Also the clones can use seven chakra arms which can brace themselves against shinra tensei and reflect it back at deva like the six-tails did, or simply tank it and close in on him within the 5-second interval.

KM clones have at least V1 raiton armor speed and will most likely be able to easily avoid the totsuka sword, but even if they can't they can just stay out of its range and spam rasenshurikens from more than two directions at itachi's susanoo. This is all under the assumption that itachi can form his susanoo before being completely destroyed by a barrage of rasenshurikens guided by chakra arms.
Spoken like a true Shinobi.
Thanks for the insight, iReally underestimated the power of KM Clones.
KM Naruto seriously has the capacity to destroy Team 1 #LIKE A BOSS and walking away as though nothing happened.

Unless someone can come up with an extraordinary counter for this above quoted explanation, this reasoning takes the cake.

Naruto with little or no help from Sasuke beats Nagato & Itachi. =]
 

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Spoken like a true Shinobi.
Thanks for the insight, iReally underestimated the power of KM Clones.
KM Naruto seriously has the capacity to destroy Team 1 #LIKE A BOSS and walking away as though nothing happened.

Unless someone can come up with an extraordinary counter for this above quoted explanation, this reasoning takes the cake.

Naruto with little or no help from Sasuke beats Nagato & Itachi. =]
Lmao seems like you are easy convinced. I cannot be bothered to repeat myself, therefoer ill allow you to believe such bs. Naruto can beat both nagato + itachi?, :rofl: :flaw:
 

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Lmao seems like you are easy convinced. I cannot be bothered to repeat myself, therefoer ill allow you to believe such bs. Naruto can beat both nagato + itachi?, :rofl: :flaw:
Let me save you some time and post your argument for you:

Round 1:
Blaze Release:
"Kagebunshins can't take a hit, when they are hit they will dispers"

Lanakau888:
"*see durability feats of RM clones above, and see durability feats of hiruzen's kagebunshins"

Round 2:
Blaze Release:
"RM clones have never defeated a kage/ kage-level opponent without help therefore can't beat kage-level opponents"

Lanakau888:
"Tsuande, gaara, sasuke, mei, A, and many many more kage level nins never defeated a kage without help, therefore they must also not be kage-level"

Final Round:
Blaze Release:
" I can't see a naruto clone beating a kage, therefore naruto's clones can't beat a kage"

lanakau888:

"Naruto clones have feats that puts them beyond any of the current 5 kages"
 

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Let me save you some time and post your argument for you:

Round 1:
Blaze Release:
"Kagebunshins can't take a hit, when they are hit they will dispers"

Lanakau888:
"*see durability feats of RM clones above, and see durability feats of hiruzen's kagebunshins"

Round 2:
Blaze Release:
"RM clones have never defeated a kage/ kage-level opponent without help therefore can't beat kage-level opponents"

Lanakau888:
"Tsuande, gaara, sasuke, mei, A, and many many more kage level nins never defeated a kage without help, therefore they must also not be kage-level"

Final Round:
Blaze Release:
" I can't see a naruto clone beating a kage, therefore naruto's clones can't beat a kage"

lanakau888:

"Naruto clones have feats that puts them beyond any of the current 5 kages"
You clearly love debating with me and your post is clearly trying to provoke me into starting another debate with you. Im not falling for it im afraid.

You just came up with a senario where naruto can solo nagato + itachi and we all know that, it will never happen. I can easy counter that or simply come up with a scenario where itachi or nagato can solo naruto + sasuke, and that scenario would not only make more sense, it also holds substance
 

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You clearly love debating with me and your post is clearly trying to provoke me into startung any other debate with you. Im not falling for it im afraid.
I did not want to debate with you, but you instigated it by calling my post BS, and you knew exactly what you were getting into when you typed it.

You just came up with a senario where naruto can solo nagato + itachi and we all know that, it will never happen. I can easy counter that or simply come up with a scenario where itachi or nagato can solo naruto + sasuke, and that scenario would not only make more sense, it also holds substance
Its not a scenario, I came up with counters that naruto has for different techniques that Itachi and Nagato have. Counters use "If/Then" statements. Scenarios use just "then" statements. Just face it man, every time we get into this argument in the end, it comes down to you saying "I just can't see an RM clone beating a Kage" while I list clear feats that allow them to solo any of the five kages.
 

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I did not want to debate with you, but you instigated it by calling my post BS, and you knew exactly what you were getting into when you typed it.


Its not a scenario, I came up with counters that naruto has for different techniques that Itachi and Nagato have. Counters use "If/Then" statements. Scenarios use just "then" statements. Just face it man, every time we get into this argument in the end, it comes down to you saying "I just can't see an RM clone beating a Kage" while I list clear feats that allow them to solo any of the five kages.
Wouldnt say i called your post bs although i could understand why you'd think that. Anyway in most people's eyes nagato or his paths at full strength without info on his abilities should defeat ems sasuke + km naruto with mid difficulty at best. Adding a healthy itachi is just a slaughter and takes the difficulty level, lower to easy
 

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Wouldnt say i called your post bs although i could understand why you'd think that.
So basically what you are trying to say is: "that you didn't call my post BS and I think you called it BS because deep down inside I know that my post was BS." No that's not why I thought you called it BS. This is why I thought you called it BS:

Lmao seems like you are easy convinced. I cannot be bothered to repeat myself, therefoer ill allow you to believe such bs. Naruto can beat both nagato + itachi?, :rofl: :flaw:

Anyway in most people's eyes nagato or his paths at full strength without info on his abilities should defeat ems sasuke + km naruto with mid difficulty at best. Adding a healthy itachi is just a slaughter and takes the difficulty level, lower to easy
Cmon dude, you are the very one who told me not to trust the consensus of the general populace. By feats naruto and 5 clones completely destroy the six paths of pain. And feats weighs waaaaaaaaaaaay more heavily than hype. And the people who think nagato > naruto just base it off of the edo nagato beating a naruto who 1) wasn't even trying to fight nagato until he was getting soul-ripped, and 2) had been using KM mode for hours, and couldn't even use shadow clones in his fight, the very technique which I argue makes naruto able to take nagato.


You want to debate KM naruto vs Nagato I'll show you just how easy KM naruto wins.
 
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Cmon dude, you are the very one who told me not to trust the consensus of the general populace. By feats naruto and 5 clones completely destroy the six paths of pain. And feats weighs waaaaaaaaaaaay more heavily than hype. And the people who think nagato > naruto just base it off of the edo nagato beating a naruto who 1) wasn't even trying to fight nagato until he was getting soul-ripped, and 2) had been using KM mode for hours, and couldn't even use shadow clones in his fight, the very technique which I argue makes naruto able to take nagato.


You want to debate KM naruto vs Nagato I'll show you just how easy KM naruto wins.
Nagato has more feats than km naruto. Only feats km naruto truly has is helping seal one kage. The 3rd raikage.

Anyway no, i dont want to debate km naruto vs nagato, simply because i have things to do, but also youll say the same thing about how he can create 14 clones. If anything as the battle goes on nagato would get stronger.

Banshou tennin and hungry ghost path should take care of the clones. Naruto might be fast, but unless he can teleport, chibaku tensei would again takecare of him and his clones.

If you truely want to debate create a thread, im sure it will receive huge interest
 

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Nagato has more feats than km naruto. Only feats km naruto truly has is helping seal one kage. The 3rd raikage.
Cmon man. Feats are not limited to defeating an opponent. There are stamina feats, speed feats, durability feats, sensing feats, strength feats, feats that every clone has displayed that put them on kage level, and also way above the abilities of each individual path of pain.

Anyway no, i dont want to debate km naruto vs nagato, simply because i have things to do, but also youll say the same thing about how he can create 14 clones. If anything as the battle goes on nagato would get stronger.
He won't get stronger because naruto has intel on preta path, and will use sage mode to defeat him. Hell, naruto can take on all the other paths and beat them first, leaving preta to get destroyed.

Banshou tennin and hungry ghost path should take care of the clones. Naruto might be fast, but unless he can teleport, chibaku tensei would again takecare of him and his clones
Chakra arms grab the ground and brace naruto's clones from banshou tennin.
One of naruto's KM clones goes into sage mode while the other's speedblitz the paths. Deva's shinra tensei will be most likely tanked by bracing with chakra arms, or reflected back at him like six-tails did.
 

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Cmon man. Feats are not limited to defeating an opponent. There are stamina feats, speed feats, durability feats, sensing feats, strength feats, feats that every clone has displayed that put them on kage level, and also way above the abilities of each individual path of pain.


He won't get stronger because naruto has intel on preta path, and will use sage mode to defeat him. Hell, naruto can take on all the other paths and beat them first, leaving preta to get destroyed.


Chakra arms grab the ground and brace naruto's clones from banshou tennin.
One of naruto's KM clones goes into sage mode while the other's speedblitz the paths. Deva's shinra tensei will be most likely tanked by bracing with chakra arms, or reflected back at him like six-tails did.
Funny you switch from km naruto to sm naruto, but also you are going by what happened at konoha. In a fight naruto wouldnt have time to gather natural energy, he already had this prepared before he fought pein, also had info.

Also lets say he gets to sage mode and nagato the oaths used banshou tennin like they did on naruto. How fast can naruto transform from sm to km to use his chakra arms and even so depending the location there wouldnt be anything for him to hold onto.

Btw all of this is pointless. Nagata has counter for everything naruto has and tbh, its better for naruto to use sm mode and even that he is at a disadvantage because he wouldnt be able to without any preparation and even if one of nagato's paths suck his natural energy and turn int o frog atleast they wouldnt sucked the natural energy from naruto.

Go back to when god realm got back its powers. Instead of a stab to the palm, he couldve easily stabbed him anywhere else which wouldve killed him.

Anyway thats enough from me. Fact is neither km naruto or ems sasuke can beat nagato or itachi is a 1 vs 1 situation even if they had info on them
 

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Funny you switch from km naruto to sm naruto, but also you are going by what happened at konoha. In a fight naruto wouldnt have time to gather natural energy, he already had this prepared before he fought pein, also had info.

Also lets say he gets to sage mode and nagato the oaths used banshou tennin like they did on naruto. How fast can naruto transform from sm to km to use his chakra arms and even so depending the location there wouldnt be anything for him to hold onto.

Btw all of this is pointless. Nagata has counter for everything naruto has and tbh, its better for naruto to use sm mode and even that he is at a disadvantage because he wouldnt be able to without any preparation and even if one of nagato's paths suck his natural energy and turn int o frog atleast they wouldnt sucked the natural energy from naruto.

Go back to when god realm got back its powers. Instead of a stab to the palm, he couldve easily stabbed him anywhere else which wouldve killed him.

Anyway thats enough from me. Fact is neither km naruto or ems sasuke can beat nagato or itachi is a 1 vs 1 situation even if they had info on them
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