Nagato incomplete crippled vs. healthy Itachi

[yxcvb]

we always hear about Nagato complete vs. anyone. but imo its not fair to let the third sage of the six paths fight against someone else who isnt having the rinnegan too. itachi is a capable fighter and i want him to fight nagato in the state when he was revived.

incomplete nagato with crippled body and white hairs vs. itachi uchiha full health.

nagato is not allowed to fly with deva, asura path or his summons (common, this is haxxed ppl). And he is not allowed to use gedo mazo or his summons.

but nagato is using all abilitys from pain and all elements and sensor ability. this is hard cause nagato can counter anything. sensor ability sensing amateresu using preta path > amaterasu
preta > susanoo shinra tensei > susanoo celestial terra blast > Susanoo.
mastery of yin + strongest dojutsu + sensing ability >>>>>>>>> genjuts.

sensing ability = nagato can see all of itachis techs.
but itachi isnt that bad hes fast and intelligent according to his fans.


So my question: how far itachi can go against a crippled nagato?

 

[Prince Charles]

Tysukuyomi.

 

[Οdin]

Different scenarios have different outcomes, so I will say that Itachi wins at least 2/10 fights.

 

[KidGamer65]

Crippled nagato couldn't react to amerterasu..


Cannon

Kabuto controlling Edo Nagato couldn't react to Amaterasu..

This is canon.

OT: Nagato wins more times than not.

CT still or Chou Shinra Tensei still finish it.

 

[amsy]

itachi wins in the end

 

[TheBattousai]

Hard to tell....I don't think we've ever seen a healthy Itachi. For all we know a healthy Itachi could have insane levels of chakra. However, If Nagato uses 6PoP, I see him being able to beat Itachi.

 

[yxcvb]

look at op. i restricted the summons and gedo mazo. just in itachis favor because his stamina isnt enough to handle nagato along the immortal summons let alone juubi. juubi would solo anyways.

still: chou shinra tensei, celestial tera blast, walking around with preta path activated, bansho tenin pulls him out of susanoo + human-path *gg*. asura path counters all physical techs + 5 elements itachi cant keep with and sensor tech can feel any move of itachi.

so i think now this can be a battle of equal. if some ppl still say (i can understand it) that nagato still rapes with chou shinra tensei and celestial terra blast, i may restrict celestial terra blast .

 

[Narukarin16]

Not anoda one of these itachi threads. I've had enough.

 

[KidGamer65]

doesn't make a difference edo feats are still feats

Nagato will die if he tries to ue CT in his condition,
as for shinra tensie 'Yata mirror can change it's characteristics and nature to nullify any attack' - databook 3

Itachi has allready beaten the chameleon and the king of hell by flicking kunai

It does make a difference since Kabuto didn't know he can sense chakra, that's why Edo Nagato couldn't react.

Since when would that kill Nagato? The only reason he is like that is because he used up too much chakra with Rinne Tensei.

 

[Bogard]

Don't know but both could win with those conditions, maybe Nagato has slightly the edge though

 

[KidGamer65]

It will be a CT so weak that itachi could probably destory it on it's own with 2 if not 1 yasa magatma.

and we know what happens after Ct is destroyed and itachi is in full susuanoo.

No, it won't be weaker, Nagato's hair is white cause he used too much chakra in one move, not because he doesn't have the same amount of chakra left.

 

[cLang cLang]

Itachi Totsuka seals crippled Nagato.

 

[KidGamer65]

also theres no reason to belive that with itachis kunai throwing can't kill nagato in this scenario escpecially as it got the blind spots of both the king of hell and the chameleon do he could also recieve a kunai to the back of the head without relising it.

his sensor abilties can't do jack in that scenario
nagato being stationary makes it easier.

CT drags Itachi along with Kunai up into the sky.

Or he can use Bansho Tennin + Soul Rip.

 

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[KidGamer65]

show me proof that he can use Ct in this state before carying on.
and bansho tennin/ soul rip can be countered by using a exploding shadow clone that will kill nagato.
he will be tricked by this expecially as itachi can throw kunai to blind any other links to the shared vision and make handseals at the same time even while sick.

There is no reason, or no implication that he can't use Chibaku Tensei in this state......you just assumed he can't use it.

 

[KidGamer65]

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i'm really doubting he can use it in this condition if not it will be way weaker enough for him to break it.

Again, that only happened cause he used up all of his chakra, in this scenario that doesn't matter because he starts with all of his chakra like in any normal vs thread.

So he can use CT, and it won't be weaker either.

Crippled Nagato still has the same amount of chakra as Normal Nagato.

 

[KidGamer65]

no his chakra is not normal his hair colour restoring and his muscles regenrating after absorbing bee's chakra.
so he will probably not be able to use CT and if he can it will be weaker.

No, his hair turned white from using up too much chakra at once , not from not having enough chakra.

After absorbing Bee's Bijuu chakra, his hair returned to red because he used the chakra to revitalize his body.

 

[KidGamer65]

If you don't relise that chakra and stamina are the same thing then theres no point in arguing not only is nagatos attacks weaker at this point but he also can't use them in rapid sucession like he is when healthy.

Listen...you are the one who isn't getting this.

Nagato's hair is white, because he used up too much chakra in one move

His body is like that because alot of his chakra got sucked up by the Gedo Mazo in one move.

Chakra comes back over time...so all that chakra he lost is back because chakra comes back naturally.

No one is talking about using moves in rapid succession, one CT is enough to finish Itachi.

Nagato made this...while he was crippled after fighting Naruto, Kyuubi and Konoha.

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[Strict]

Itachi obviously takes this, Nagato can't even walk properly in this state.

 

[KidGamer65]

1.If your life force is strained your chakra level is also depleted

2. Nagato was in a better condition then he is in this thread

3.Absorbing bees chakra is evidence of this and you have none.

The nagato in this thread is not as strong has less chakra and can not use the paths like a healthy nagato can.
Accept it.

1. Show me scans where they said his life force was depleted, and chakra regenerates over time so this point is moot.

2. He was in the same condition genius, except his hair was red, which turned white cause he used up too much chakra in one go.

3. No it isn't cause chakra comes back over time, and the chakra he got from bee was specifically used to heal his body.


If you can't understand this then i'm done, you can go on with your ridiculous assumptions if you want, but this is fact.