[VS] Nagato in Hashiramas place against Madara

[yxcvb]

Hashirama faced Madara with the PS + kyuubi. so what if negato was instead of hashirama? can the uzumaki who mastered rikudos eyes win against the EMS + kyuubi since rennigan alone > EMS?

I will restrict the juubi negato is master of (he was master of gedo mazo w/ multiple bijuu and the juubi is still gedo mazo) as this is of course too haxxed.

no trolling allowed only logic. The official databook says preta > any ninjutsu and chakra. no matter if kyuubi spamms tbb with ps sword slashes it is all chakra and nagato flying with preta activated is able to nullify it. ps can still be absorbed and a full powered celestial terra blast beats kyuubi. kyuubi needed 8 tails to break out of a celestial terra blast from a weakened deva path and deva claimed he could make it bigger. so complete nagato makes it multiple times bigger.

+ there is a load of summons with the invincible cerberus.

can the thir rikduo senin as hyped to be by tobi with mastery over the rennigan beat the master of ems with kyuubi?

 

[HB2]

With kyuubi nagato loses, without it it he wins high diff

 

[H8OnItachi]

I thought this was already settled: EMS madara wins mid diff at most. Pretty sure a lot of people will try to debate, but lets have this clear.

First of all, Gedo Mazo is a nonfactor, Nagato has not displayed EVER the ability use the mazo alone, let alone fully control it alone, 1 use of the statue left him crippled, he does not have obito's outer path feats.

Now, ok the databook says preta can absorb any amount of chakra, but PS slash doesnt even have to touch him, the shockwave and destruction caused anhillate him, not to mention he wont be able to absorb the ridicoulus amount of chakra a susano'o holds by the time hes already dead. The CT core gets destroyed by a PS slash or a Yasaka no Magatama, CST wont do jack to even an incomplete susano'o, summons tickle PS, asura and human are a joke.

Kurama isnt even necessary, and you know what? After writing this i realized theres no way in hell nagato is even touching madara, this is a stomp.

 

[KidGamer65]

Madara wins mid diff w/o Kurama. Add Kurama in and he rapes.

 

[Draegod]

Madi wins high diffulty with Kyubi. Looses with out the kyubi

 

[GrayParadise]

Madara. Nagato is fast, but he can't keep up wit the speed of Kyuubi, and he has no attack to break to break through his armor.

 

[Draegod]

That Kyubi Combo is a b!tch.... With out it, we have a fight!

 

[Fighter2011]

EMS Madara without Kyuubi beats Nagato. PS > everything in Nagatos arsenal

 

[Fodder#4]

With the Kyuubi, Madara wins low diff.

Without, though? I'd say Madara would win high diff here.