Nagato > Hashirama

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I think he could. The Rinnegan brought Nagato to the point where he was about to solo Naruto and B TOGETHER for goodness sake, had Itachi not intervened, and even he was forced to use HAXsuka's Sword.. As awesome as I think Hashirama is, he certainly would have an extremely difficult time against only one of them, let alone two.
 
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Hashirama, perhaps being the strongest Kage in history, is not losing to Nagato.

Hashirama>Naruto>Nagato therefor Hashirama>Nagato.
 
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I will start by apologizing if someone already made this point because I did not waste my time reading the whole thread. One thing YOU DO NOT KNOW the extent of hashi power. So stop making assumptions. Until you know all his ninjutsus etc... dont compare him to nagato who got owned by itachi K!
 

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I agree with your points, Nagato > Hashirama until we see more of Hashirama.
 

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Nagato>Hashirama


Anyone with the Rinnegan>Hashirama
 

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I will start by apologizing if someone already made this point because I did not waste my time reading the whole thread. One thing YOU DO NOT KNOW the extent of hashi power. So stop making assumptions. Until you know all his ninjutsus etc... dont compare him to nagato who got owned by itachi K!

Even if we don't know the full extent of someone's abilities we can still make judgement on what they're capable of. We don't know all the ninjutsu for a lot of characters, Kakashi is a good example but we know he isn't defeating Madara.

We know his main style is wood style we saw what it can do through Madara and Yamato(obviously on a bigger scale) and Danzo. Madara gave us a good idea of what Hashirama's wood style is like so stop hiding behind that excuse and bring in something new why you think Hashirama is a great as everyone says he is.
 

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hahsirama would win IMO
due to bringer of the darkness
what caused nagato to get hit by itachi in the end yes teh blinding of his shared vision caused his reaction time to be low and thus got him killed as seen here



him being a sensor doesnt mean he can dodge all techs and he couldnt react here as we have seen. And with one tech hashi can make him completely blind he would be completely vulnerable as he was in this state. When ur blind u really would know where to attack or use your powers as effectively.

as kabuto mention here he couldnt dodge that attack due to that and his mobility issue


as seen here even nagato can be hit with ninjutsu when caught of guard

and here

as u can see as soon as hashi uses bringer of darkness nagato is in this vulnerable state and hashi has to deal the final blow and as we have seen nagato wouldnt be able to defend fast enough and wouldnt even know where to attack. All his summons would be useless in this jutsu and hashi can use either mokuton or use his swords as a finishing blow for nagato.

hashi uses nagato biggest weakness against him which is his blinding of shared vision that puts him in the most vulnerable state. An as long as hashi can deliver a swift finishing blow which he certainly can with mokuton or swords hashi would win. and nagato wouldnt know what hit as its the same scenario with itachi but unlike itachi hashi doesnt have to take out eye by eye but just use this one jutsu
 

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Actually Nagato has both, Sage's body and the eyes.

Correct. If you look up his intel or even look at the manga Tobi says he was the third sage of six paths. Plus he is an Uzumaki which is a distant relative of Senju meaning he did inherit the body and eyes(Tobi).
 

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hahsirama would win IMO
due to bringer of the darkness
what caused nagato to get hit by itachi in the end yes teh blinding of his shared vision caused his reaction time to be low and thus got him killed as seen here



him being a sensor doesnt mean he can dodge all techs and he couldnt react here as we have seen. And with one tech hashi can make him completely blind he would be completely vulnerable as he was in this state. When ur blind u really would know where to attack or use your powers as effectively.

as kabuto mention here he couldnt dodge that attack due to that and his mobility issue


as seen here even nagato can be hit with ninjutsu when caught of guard

and here

as u can see as soon as hashi uses bringer of darkness nagato is in this vulnerable state and hashi has to deal the final blow and as we have seen nagato wouldnt be able to defend fast enough and wouldnt even know where to attack. All his summons would be useless in this jutsu and hashi can use either mokuton or use his swords as a finishing blow for nagato.

hashi uses nagato biggest weakness against him which is his blinding of shared vision that puts him in the most vulnerable state. An as long as hashi can deliver a swift finishing blow which he certainly can with mokuton or swords hashi would win. and nagato wouldnt know what hit as its the same scenario with itachi but unlike itachi hashi doesnt have to take out eye by eye but just use this one jutsu

Nagato still has the rain technique to sense other people, I wouldn't count him out after a Bringer of Darkness jutsu.
 

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Nagato still has the rain technique to sense other people, I wouldn't count him out after a Bringer of Darkness jutsu.

Nagato's a Sensor shinobi. He doesn't need to use the Rain Tiger at Will to sense from his main body.
 

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Kabuto - ( 初代火影千手柱間ほどの忍は も う い な い…人は皆そう言う… その強さを 聞い た ものは六道仙人と同じくあとぎ 話 だ と ね…今こそ…そのおとぎ話 を 現 実に…!) -> The first Hokage Senjuu Hashirama, there are no Shinobi like him anymore... Everyone agrees on that... As the legend goes, his strenght was comparable to that of Rikudou Sennin... Now... I'll turn that fairytale into reality!

hashirama>nagato
 

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Kabuto - ( 初代火影千手柱間ほどの忍は も う い な い…人は皆そう言う… その強さを 聞い た ものは六道仙人と同じくあとぎ 話 だ と ね…今こそ…そのおとぎ話 を 現 実に…!) -> The first Hokage Senjuu Hashirama, there are no Shinobi like him anymore... Everyone agrees on that... As the legend goes, his strenght was comparable to that of Rikudou Sennin... Now... I'll turn that fairytale into reality!

hashirama>nagato

And you post a translation without provding a credible, nor existiing source as to who translated that. I'm pretty sure ShouenSuki over on the wiki said otherwise. Not to mention that BS, because Kabuto's statement confirmed that there are others as powerful or more so than Hashirama.
 

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And you post a translation without provding a credible, nor existiing source as to who translated that. I'm pretty sure ShouenSuki over on the wiki said otherwise. Not to mention that BS, because Kabuto's statement confirmed that there are others as powerful or more so than Hashirama.

this was kirin reis translation.
 

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I'd be more inclined to listen if you provided a link to Kirin Rei's translation thread of that text. :|
 

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I'd be more inclined to listen if you provided a link to Kirin Rei's translation thread of that text. :|



those shinobi that kabuto said could be tobirama, izuna you know
 

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Oh look a thread explaining as to why Hashirama would win! Gee what a handy tool!




Oh look another one And if you look through the thread I destroy each of the arguments they summon up.

Hashirama is better.
 
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I'm asking the Naruto wiki's translator for the translation of that monologue since I can't seem to find his past one.
 

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Nagato is the most OP Ninja behind Kabuto. His devastating power could defeat Hashirama.
Summons, shinra tensei etc. thats 2 much for one ninja, you saw how easily he was about to take Naruto's soul. He could mos def do the same to Hashirama.

Nagato can chibaku tensei Hashirama, how will Hashirama BY HIMSELF be able to stop Chinaku Tensei? Or Planetary devastation.
 

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Um, Chibaku Tensei IS Planetary Devastation. xd
 
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