Nagato > Hashirama WITHOUT Bijupower?

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a lot of ppl say that nagato with the gedo statue wold beat hashirama. but since both can use biju poower (nagato with gedo statue and hashirama with mokuton) they are excluded. nagato can use the gedo statue only without the biju, hashirama uses all his powers and also without bijus.

who is the stronger one here?
 

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I still think Hashirama
 

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At the moment it seems so. However we need to bear in mind that we've not got knowledge on Hashirama's full capabilities or arsenal.
 

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EMS Madara/Hashirama > Nagato but they are around the same land scape changing power. In my top 10 nagato and hashi are always next to each other not Madara anymore because he has removed him self from the edo tensei contract so he is now just and immortal with regenerative abilities and unlimited chakra, Madara is first in my top top
 

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Probably Hashirama by hype, but based on what we've seen so far it's Nagato. Hashirama is fabled as a God by other people, and hyped up to be so. Nagato labeled himself a God, was pretty much a Narutoverse God, but hasn't had hype on the level of Hashirama.

Also, Hashirama fought Madara multiple times and survived, along with the Kyuubi. Nagato had trouble with a six-tailed Kyuubi, bested it, but failed to keep it contained in the Hachi state.

Now Nagato himself could probably use CB on the full Kyuubi, not the point. Hashirama was skilled enough to take on the strongest Bijuu and Madara, one of the strongest to live WITHOUT the Bijuu, and WIN.
 

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Uchiha Madara praised Hashirama, and even admitted he was stronger than him.

So if its Nagato>Hashirama you actually saying Nagato>Uchiha Madara
 

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Gonna go on a limb here and say Hashirama, because he could withstand tendo pain by rooting himself and then taking him out within the 5 second gap. His healing is supposedly godly compared to Tsunades and she is the greatest healer in the Narutoverse currently. Well, Chiyo was edo'd to life so she was the greatest healer by technicality but, I digress.

Main point is that Hashirama has plenty of room for mistakes considering his wood style keeps him in tip top shape.
 

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As First has beaten Madara without Bijuu Power ... I guess this goes to him as well !
 

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Celestial Tera Blast
Gedo Mazo
Flying
Shinra Tensei spam

A normal shinra tensei would probably kill Hashirama or render him immobilized even with his healing
 

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Hashirama. He could heal himself w/out hand-seals and also topped Prime Madara [with PSS and Kurama] U_U
 

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Someone says Nagato can fly :sy: No end to Fanboys :sy:
 

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Hashi will destroy nagato/pain without using his forest world technique
 

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Someone says Nagato can fly :sy: No end to Fanboys :sy:
Yep i guess jumped really high right huh haha and according to you gambunta can fight mid air with him as well
He was flying in the pain arc upwards from Tsuande,Asura path flew as well with its boosters then Nagato mirraclously started flying vs Naruto,Bee and Itachi
On the topic of being a fanboy you think Minato can beat Nagato and Tobi can beat Madara and Nagato together.If you deny these i have proof.
Hashi will destroy nagato/pain without using his forest world technique

Yep counters to:

Celestial Tera Blast
Gedo Mazo
Flying with preta path activated
Shinra Tensei spam if you will
 
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