Nagato can not defeat Hashi of Madara

Who Wins?

  • Nagato wins

    Votes: 62 40.3%
  • Hashirama or Madara wins

    Votes: 67 43.5%
  • Hashirama wins not Madara

    Votes: 17 11.0%
  • Madara wins not Hashirama

    Votes: 8 5.2%

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TenzaZangetsu

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Naruto, Minato and EMS Sasuke can NOT beat Pain-Nagato!! MAYBE Hashi, Madara and Tobi can..
 

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hashis wood would not slow nagato down one bit you guys are higher than me
 

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Healthy Nagato WOULD be on the same lvl as Hashirama. Unhealthy nagato would just be below Hashirama's overall.
But Madara would beat both of them 1 vs 1

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sad. explain dont just be a kid and use> <.

nagato could defeat sasuke atm, minato would tool nagato. unless tobi beats minato

The 1st has the least chance of winning, fighting a rinnegun is completely different then fighting a sharingan.

Nagato has 8 summons, so 9 feilds of vision which makes a counter attack or catching him off almost impossible which we've seen. Any wood style may be absorbed just like J man's oil an fire attack which was completely absorbed(not a fact). THe forest an pollen attack is useless because not only can nagato fly just deva path but he can also fly o his bird summon who drops bombs. With the universal pull he can pull the fist to him an use the human path to take his soul. Not to metion the 1st doesnt know the rinneguns powers he'll most likely try taijutsu which with the human path gives nagato a super advantage cause he can take his soul with one touch. The may have know ansewer for planetary devastation but his wood may break it but i dout it. Bring of darkness wont work since nagato is a sensor type or he could just use his rain jutsu aswell. The 1st doesnt really have a way to win.

Edo madara has a chance but madara ems with 9 tails will lose. ( tails will do nothing but feed nagato's power jus like 9 tails chakra mode, An ems madara just cant win. Nagato conters his fire style, an suasnoo. Both are chakra based jutsu's an will be absorb(including anything that suasnoo does). An the dog summon will keep 9 tails busy cause it'll just keep multipling an even the TBB wont hit them all if they simple spread out. An like the 1st taijutsu is useless, ninjutsu is useless, genjutsu highly unlikely an over all madara bad temper an cockiness will be his down fall.

In short nagato has the upper hand on both. Now if were talkin edo madara just let me know an ill explain that fight as well.
 

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I don't see Nagato winning against Hashirama. First of all it seems that many people ain't seeing the strategic part of this battle. Many are claiming that this fight will just end in a Jutsu spam where both have to counter each others techniques.

How for example did Kakashi avoid Bansho Tenin? - By simply using a Raiton-Bunshin. How did Naruto tank the Shinra Tensei? By just being supported by his Kagebunshins. Hashirama has many ways to counter all of Nagatos techniques, and since he is smarter and way more experienced, this fight clearly goes to him.
 

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You got to ask yourself who was madaras trump card
 

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I don't see Nagato winning against Hashirama. First of all it seems that many people ain't seeing the strategic part of this battle. Many are claiming that this fight will just end in a Jutsu spam where both have to counter each others techniques.

How for example did Kakashi avoid Bansho Tenin? - By simply using a Raiton-Bunshin. How did Naruto tank the Shinra Tensei? By just being supported by his Kagebunshins. Hashirama has many ways to counter all of Nagatos techniques, and since he is smarter and way more experienced, this fight clearly goes to him.

... Are you comparing deva alone to nagato who has every path? + more?


Hashirama has NO ways to counter all his techs, try again,
 

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... Are you comparing deva alone to nagato who has every path? + more?


Hashirama has NO ways to counter all his techs, try again,

Hashirama > Edo madara > nagato > madara.

as edo madara said hashirama can stop him .
and everyone accept Edo madara > nagato .
SO hashirama > nagato.
:ice:
 

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... Are you comparing deva alone to nagato who has every path? + more?


Hashirama has NO ways to counter all his techs, try again,

Yes I do. Nagato is slightly overrated here, Hashirama could counter Nagatos techniques and also overrun him with his own. You only rely on Nagatos Ninjutsu spam and believe that Hashirama would just endure it. Already the logic that the Shinra Tensei would handle the Tajuu Mokuton Bunshins, shows your restricted point of view. This goes for all of you.
 

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Yes I do. Nagato is slightly overrated here, Hashirama could counter Nagatos techniques and also overrun him with his own. You only rely on Nagatos Ninjutsu spam and believe that Hashirama would just endure it. Already the logic that the Shinra Tensei would handle the Tajuu Mokuton Bunshins, shows your restricted point of view. This goes for all of you.
Actually to be honest Nagato is underrated in these threads esp thanks to hashirama fanboys U_U
 

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Hashirama > Edo madara > nagato > madara.

as edo madara said hashirama can stop him .
and everyone accept Edo madara > nagato .
SO hashirama > nagato.
:ice:

madara did say that but he's never even met another rinnegun user...
 

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Actually to be honest Nagato is underrated in these threads esp thanks to hashirama fanboys U_U

We can further discuss this in the 'Deva solos Hashirama' thread my son. Hashirama is considered so strong purposely, while Nagato fans are going crazy.
 

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Yes I do. Nagato is slightly overrated here, Hashirama could counter Nagatos techniques and also overrun him with his own. You only rely on Nagatos Ninjutsu spam and believe that Hashirama would just endure it. Already the logic that the Shinra Tensei would handle the Tajuu Mokuton Bunshins, shows your restricted point of view. This goes for all of you.

Can you explain how he counters all of Nagato's techniques?
 

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madara did say that but he's never even met another rinnegun user...

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See in madara's eyes... what you see ? RINNEGAN!
And what do you see next ?
madara says :
"önly one who can stop me is HASHIRAMA"
 

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Can you explain how he counters all of Nagato's techniques?

This guy must be insane

There is no possible way, hashirama counters Nagato's techniques..

All he's doing is typing a load of bs


I can list hashirama's technoques, and list nagato's counters to them
Yet if I list Nagato's techniques, hashirama has nothing to survive many of them

I would LOVE to see his take argument on how hashirma wins this
 

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See in madara's eyes... what you see ? RINNEGAN!
And what do you see next ?
madara says :
"önly one who can stop me is HASHIRAMA"

Im not tryna be rude but what the **** does that have to do with what i just said?lmao

Madara may have said that but my point is he only know the 1st as being strong. He's never met nagato(a waaaaaaaaaay more expeirenced rinnegan user than madara) or even heard of him. Or even itachi, not to say itachi would beat madara although i wouldnt be surpised if he did.
 

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Just wait, I will post my arguments shortly. Based on facts and logic, which I miss by you always.
 

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Can you explain how he counters all of Nagato's techniques?
It is impossible due to fact that we dont know what hes techs are we have seen only few of what he could do, however he knows a lot of forbidden techs so there very well might be a counter to everything nagato throws..
Untill kishi actually shows the fight between Hashi x EMS Madara we will never know hes true power, besaids I think he did use hes Forbidden Tech scroll vs madara since I cant see how he can beat him with what we have seen so far >_>
 
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