Nagato can not defeat Hashi of Madara

Who Wins?

  • Nagato wins

    Votes: 62 40.3%
  • Hashirama or Madara wins

    Votes: 67 43.5%
  • Hashirama wins not Madara

    Votes: 17 11.0%
  • Madara wins not Hashirama

    Votes: 8 5.2%

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Nagato is not on the level of Hashi or Madara. Still kinda crazy that people believe this.... I think again people think of Nagato as Edo Nagato and not the real Nagato in the wheelchair.

Madara
Nagato could not take on Madara/Madara andthe 9 tails. Look at the issues the fox gave him with 8 tails. Nagato himself aid he did not expect the 9 tails to be so powerful and fighting it sapped a huge portion of Nagato's chakra.These are faqs not just my opionion. Would be very interesting If you put Nagao in Hashi's place and had Madara + 9 tails fight Nagato. There would be no chance for Nagato to win.Madara did take some of Hashi's cells when he was alive so we don't know the exstint but we know that he could use mokuton.Madara did unlock the Rinnegan when he was alive also and has the same paths as Nagato+Ems abilities and from what we have seen now a perfect sasuno.There is no way Nagato to win this battle. And were not talkingabout Edo Madara or Edo Nagato. Either EMS Madara w/9tails or Madara Rinnegan/Mokuton/EMS

Hashirama
Now On to Hashi. It's very hard to compare him when we have seen so little about the man. But seeing the power of Mokuton coupled with his feats: Establishing Konoha,Capturing "Multiple" tailed beast and distributing them to various nations, Becoming the 1st Hokage by defeating Madara, and when you look up Hashirama Senju it also tells you as Hokage he came across a Scroll filled with among other skills,various Kinjutsu which he sealed to keep the techs a secret.So we really don't even know what the man s capable of and he was already amazing. This is the same man who defeated Madara and the 9 tails at the same time.Nagato had issues just fighting the fox with 6 tails.Kishi also made it very clear how powerful he was through Kabuto.

Nagato
I think some of you people need to either go back and re-read the manga because you forget that the real Nagato Used the paths because summoning the Gedo Maza left him with chakra rods embedded him his back , and fighting Honzo injured his legs crippling his mobility.Pain was in a wheelchair.....He had issues fighting SM Naruto and a 6 tailed fox.People say he could have won the fight if he wanted but forget the condition that Nagato was actually in when Naruto found him.He was almost depleated of Chakra and energy.Nagato uses his life energy for his techs which leaves him in almost dead from using his ability to many times.Nagato is amazing still but there is a common misconception that Edo Nagato was the real Nagato and thats Bs. That's Fanboys wanting to make themselves and there arguments right. We also have to remember Nagato followed Tobi before Tobi was as strong as he is today.Tobi was always the True leader of the akatsuki which he means was most likely the stronger.

Other people Nagato Can't defeat are: Naruto,Tobi,Kabuto,and Maybe Minato and EMS Sasuke
Would say Itachi if he had more chakra.
 

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Ok I'm tired of these threads. You dont have to make an anti-thread.
 
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Sorry if to many of these polls are popping up just wanted to state a couple of faqs.
 

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Celestial Terra Blast?

Preta path absorbing every technique they have?

Chou Shinra Tensei?

5 elements?

Flying in the air?

Asura path armour?

Gedo and Ceberus?

They cant do anything to Nagato because all of their techniques are ninjutsu and they cant try Taijutsu as Shinra Tensei would blow them away.Asura path would be shooting missles as well as spamming rivers of water at them.This is assuming Nagato plays fair and stays on the ground as he can just fly in the air spamming attacks
 

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Your point about him having issues with the kyuubi. Unlike Hashirama Nagato doesn't have a special ability to suppress tailed beasts so he had to do it by force. He seemed confident enough to capture it with CT with deva path which is weaker than the real Nagato. He said he'll just have to make CT bigger, the reason he didn't was because the 4th Hokage made Naruto return to normal.
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How exactly does Hashirama kill Nagato? Petra and deva path stop any mokuton attack. His Genjutsu can be countered with linked vision, Nagato being a sensor, rinnengan and if you hit the user it would be cancelled, shinra tensei would be enough. Tai jutsu would be stopped with assura and human path. There will be 8 boss summons and gedo mazo on top of that.

As for Madara, ems Madara has mainly shown. Susanoo is just chakra and can be absorbed by petra path and the kyuubi can be stopped with the summons and gedo mazo.
 
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Nagato could beat them one on one.
 

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these threads are getting old ZZZzzZZzzZZ
 

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Nagato is powerful, but Madara and Hashirama i think would take it because they are far more experienced. I think it would be cool to see though a fight on this though.
 
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Celestial Terra Blast?

Preta path absorbing every technique they have?

Chou Shinra Tensei?

5 elements?

Flying in the air?

Asura path armour?

Gedo and Ceberus?

They cant do anything to Nagato because all of their techniques are ninjutsu and they cant try Taijutsu as Shinra Tensei would blow them away.Asura path would be shooting missles as well as spamming rivers of water at them.This is assuming Nagato plays fair and stays on the ground as he can just fly in the air spamming attacks

I doubt that. Hashi had a the same clone Jutsu as Naruto and his Makuton clone Jutsu. with his chakra poo he could easily make multiple clones of himself and take each path 2 on 1 or more if he liked. if were talking about a head up fight really Nagato has no chance. He would have to hide his original body and this requires preporation.I know nagato has a lot of techs but we havn't seen all of Hashi's to say he dosn't either. Also Nagato's techs are very different in the Manga and the Anime and if your going to give him both then take into consideration Hashi's Mokuton took on a Tbb from the 9 tails. And how would Nagato get past the Flower/Plant world Hashi creates? If he breathes the spores in the fight would be over. And all of there techs are not Ninjutsu.

I really think he would have less chance against Madara withrinnegan/ems/Hashi's cells. Anything that he can do Madara canto and more with a lot more battle exp.
 

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Nagato > minato
Nagato > EMS sasuke.

Do not under rate him . :) thanks :D
 
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Your point about him having issues with the kyuubi. Unlike Hashirama Nagato doesn't have a special ability to suppress tailed beasts so he had to do it by force. He seemed confident enough to capture it with CT with deva path which is weaker than the real Nagato. He said he'll just have to make CT bigger, the reason he didn't was because the 4th Hokage made Naruto return to normal.
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How exactly does Hashirama kill Nagato? Petra and deva path stop any mokuton attack. His Genjutsu can be countered with linked vision, Nagato being a sensor, rinnengan and if you hit the user it would be cancelled, shinra tensei would be enough. Tai jutsu would be stopped with assura and human path. There will be 8 boss summons and gedo mazo on top of that.

As for Madara, ems Madara has mainly shown. Susanoo is just chakra and can be absorbed by petra path and the kyuubi can be stopped with the summons and gedo mazo.

Hashi starts off by with is Flower/Plant world, then makes as many clones of himself as he wishes.Clones trump linked vision because he can make as many as he likes. If Hashi uses Genjutsu on all of them at one time then it would work. Now the Gedo Mazo in Hashi's case would be difficult to contend with but he could also use clones to distract it. If Nagato summons the Gedo Mazo how much chakra would it take and how many more major techs would he be able to use?Also this whole while Nagato would have to protect his real body because he has no mobility in the wheelchair so the petra would have to be with him at all times. There is a window inbetween the attacks that Hashi can use to attack Nagato.Nagato would not have time to Use CT on Hashi because the clones could keep him occupied. If he uses Ct who's protecting Nagato? If the Plant /Flower world is set up how would Nagato breath? He would have to use the petra path to destroy the plants and that's if he had time.really the world wold just be a distraction for Hashi to attack the real Nagato. If Hashi makes 50 clones of himself the paths would be taken out pretty quickly leaving maybe Petra and Nagato.Ultimately it would be Hashi's Kinjutsu that would beat Nagato and he would use Mokuton as a distraction.
 
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Nagato > minato
Nagato > EMS sasuke.

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I don't under rate him but im not sure how his paths could get past Sasuke's Ameterasu. Sasuke may be one of the best people to fight Nagato because of his new ems abilities. If were talking a fight within 100 yards i doubt that Nagato could escape Ameterasu, especially seeing that he can seemingly spam it now. Even with linked vision if Sasuke sends out multiple bolts at one time the paths would get taken out very quickly. petra path would be the problem for Sasuke but after he took out the others with ameterasu the shared vision is gone. Just Nagato and Petra. And we don't know the how great Nagato is at using his paths and defending himself at the same time because we never got to see this. In a head up fight Nagato has a big problem and thats he has to protect his original body and this is why I think he may lose. When he faught Naruto he had prepared and hid his original body , he dosn't get that handicap in the fight im talking about.
 

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I doubt that. Hashi had a the same clone Jutsu as Naruto and his Makuton clone Jutsu. with his chakra poo he could easily make multiple clones of himself and take each path 2 on 1 or more if he liked. if were talking about a head up fight really Nagato has no chance. He would have to hide his original body and this requires preporation.I know nagato has a lot of techs but we havn't seen all of Hashi's to say he dosn't either. Also Nagato's techs are very different in the Manga and the Anime and if your going to give him both then take into consideration Hashi's Mokuton took on a Tbb from the 9 tails. And how would Nagato get past the Flower/Plant world Hashi creates? If he breathes the spores in the fight would be over. And all of there techs are not Ninjutsu.

I really think he would have less chance against Madara withrinnegan/ems/Hashi's cells. Anything that he can do Madara canto and more with a lot more battle exp.

Nagato controlled the rain ... he has perfect mastery of all elements ofc he can spam rivers as well as other elemental jutsu

Hashirama tanking a TBB is non canon Nagato being one of the best water users is canon.

Nagato can fly he obviously can get away from the spores as Gaaras sand levitated them above it thats how the kages escaped.

Nagatos shinra tensei would devastate the battlefield.His normal Shinra Tensei destroyed a forest his clones would not survive.
 

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Whilst i agree that hashirama will defeat nagato. Nagato vs ems madara is up in the air.
 
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