Nagato can easily break Tsukuyomi

[Vegeta]

I think so too, but I think he would have to put them under Tsukyomi individually for it to work

 

[Vegeta]

Maybe because that was a sound genjutsu?

possibly, didn't think of it that way

 

[Scooby Doo]

I think so too, but I think he would have to put them under Tsukyomi individually for it to work

Maybe, I cannot tell.

 

[ipodg35]

Sure he can due to he's chakra level and his dojutsu

 

[iMicLykTyson]

thats if he can even catch him with it. an when did kishi say that?

Itachi said this which means kishi said it, not only that, he even went as far as to show us by using kakashi as a scapegoat. Face it if he is caught in tsukyomi he won't escape I have given proof you haven't.

 

[ipodg35]

The Old frogs put him in Genjutsu easy enough. If Pervy Sage knew about Pain's powers he could've killed him when they fought

The old frogs uses sound genutsu so he is not immune to sound genutsu but others coz not untill recent we found out susano'o of both itachi and sasuke falls into sound genjutsu.

 

[Shinraa Tensei]

genjustu dnt work on rinnegan

 

[Maunten]

How could u say that when he couldnt even break the sage genjutsu and for the last time itachi did not use tsukiyomi on sasuke we all know that tech takes you to an imaginary world where itachi manipulates time and breaks your will the genjutsu used on sasuke showed no resemblence to the dream world nor was sasuke trapped in it for what could have been 3 weeks if itachi pleased

Mythical sword>sage genjustus>Tsukyomi

well right now I'm sure the dude who you responded to is in shock at the level of idiocy...i mean seriously...i jus check the scan - and edo MADARA says shortly after i died or wateva i awakened these eyes...gee...wonder what he was talking bout...i mean since he already had ems wat could it be hmmm?? my goodness - and yes it was a classic continuance of sentence from the other party to explain it. yes kabuto was speaking through the 1st or 2nd tsuch-wats his name but edo madara spoke - seems you need a freakin' letter from kishi. I don't even respond to stuff on this site but ur ridiculousness lured me out - you should be proud...he said he acquired the new power (rinnegan) at his death and kabuto modified him

So someone awakening the rinnegan means it came from the sharingan? Save the insults, it does not help you look any better.

 

[Bogard]

Sharingan genjutsu is useless against Nagato for 3reasons:
- He has Rinnengan(>EMS). Itachi said MS could counter it, so Rinnengan will easily
- He can put a barrier against genjutsu and he has already shown that
- He is a sensor, and that means he doesn't need to see to know what is happening in the battlefield. If we add to that his share vision of the Rinnengan, he can't even be put in it if he wanted

 

[Maunten]

Is Nagato an Uchiha who has the Sharingan? No. Disrupting your own chakra during Tsukuyomi? LOL. Nagato>Itachi, but Tsukuyomi still stands. Also, because the Rinnegan has a shared field of vision, it affects every single one of Nagato's paths and summons.

No it does not....tsukyomi requires eye contact to work but pretty much ever genjutsu is based around chakra disruption.

"The Chakra Disruption Blades are blades made from the same material as the chakra receivers used by Nagato. They originated from the black rod in the Demonic Statue of the Outer Path's abdomen. Pain creates the blades as needed from both arms of any Path, with no apparent limit to their length. Pain can also detach the blade from the arms when requiring to use several of them, or to be thrown as harpoons.[1]

The effect of being stabbed with the blade.
These blades disrupt the chakra of its victim, rendering them incapabl

 

[destined 2 win]

It seems nagato fans are in denial and want to make an excuse for why nagato would beat itachi even though it isnt needed because as i said nagato is the favourite to beat itachi anway but when you rely on fan fiction in order to approve why nagato will beat itachi and label a technique which the manga and db states should work on nagato you arent helping yourself.

Anyway this quote from the db should put things into perspective;

"Sharingan is the Kekkei Genkai of the clan labeled as the most powerful, the Uchiha clan. Even among those who have Sharingan, that jutsu cannot be operated without having Mangekyou, which is its culminating point. Concurrently, the only ones who can defeat Tsukuyomi are Sharingan possessors... And even then, exclusively the elite shinobi who have reached particularly high degrees of skillfulness. Once could say this is truly a God-given jutsu solely allowed to those blessed with Uchiha blood and prodigious aptitudes."

ok enought of your bullshit. tell me can itachi tuskuyomi SO6P and one shot him beacuse SO6P isnt an uchihaa and according to manga /itachi/kishi only uchihaas can break tsukuyomi.:flaw:

 

[Scooby Doo]

Sharingan genjutsu is useless against Nagato for 3reasons:
- He has Rinnengan(>EMS). Itachi said MS could counter it, so Rinnengan will easily
- He can put a barrier against genjutsu and he has already shown that
- He is a sensor, and that means he doesn't need to see to know what is happening in the battlefield. If we add to that his share vision of the Rinnengan, he can't even be put in it if he wanted

-But his rinnegan is not evolved from EMS so it cannot use sharingan's genjutsu abilities.
-Tsukoyomi>>>>other genjutsus, and putting up a barrier beforehand probably takes some time, in real battle maybe it wouldnt work, and if that genjutsu barrier in the pein-bodies were so strong how did Jiraiya's genjutsu affect them?
-Kabuto was a sensor in SM and closed his eyes he was still caught in izanami, though I know were talking about tsukoyomi now, but what if Itachi knowing that he'll fight again Nagato prepares izanami right away? I'm not saying he would have enough time to activate it but maybe.

 

[Maunten]

-But his rinnegan is not evolved from EMS so it cannot use sharingan's genjutsu abilities.
-Tsukoyomi>>>>other genjutsus, and putting up a barrier beforehand probably takes some time, in real battle maybe it wouldnt work, and if that genjutsu barrier in the pein-bodies were so strong how did Jiraiya's genjutsu affect them?
-Kabuto was a sensor in SM and closed his eyes he was still caught in izanami, though I know were talking about tsukoyomi now, but what if Itachi knowing that he'll fight again Nagato prepares izanami right away? I'm not saying he would have enough time to activate it but maybe.

Tsukyomi is one of the most powerful but not the most, some genjutsu can not even be escaped with chakra disruption, like sage gen, or mythical sword gen. Bringer of darkness can not be escaped with chakra disruption either.

 

[Scooby Doo]

Tsukyomi is one of the most powerful but not the most, some genjutsu can not even be escaped with chakra disruption, like sage gen, or mythical sword gen. Bringer of darkness can not be escaped with chakra disruption either.

Ok I was just talking about normal genjutsus, of course there are some stronger ones but Tsukoyomi's advantage is that it needs only eye contact and not much preparaion or handseals.And I just said that the genjutsubarrier Nagato used couldnt be that strong if it couldnt protect the peins from Jiraiya's genjutsu. IMO

 

[Bogard]

-But his rinnegan is not evolved from EMS so it cannot use sharingan's genjutsu abilities.
-Tsukoyomi>>>>other genjutsus, and putting up a barrier beforehand probably takes some time, in real battle maybe it wouldnt work, and if that genjutsu barrier in the pein-bodies were so strong how did Jiraiya's genjutsu affect them?
-Kabuto was a sensor in SM and closed his eyes he was still caught in izanami, though I know were talking about tsukoyomi now, but what if Itachi knowing that he'll fight again Nagato prepares izanami right away? I'm not saying he would have enough time to activate it but maybe.

- I'm not saying he can use it(from what we've seen from him). I'm saying he can break it. Breaking and doing are 2things different
- why are you talking about pein bodies? It was not about pein body i was talking about. It was a civil man in Nagato's country. We can even suppose he put this barrier against genjutsu to everyone in his country since he couldn't know that Jiraya would precisely capture that man. Compare this man:

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Where do you see a pein body here??
- Tobi said that you are consider as a rikudoo if you're capable to do Izanagi right? Nagato is considered as a rikudoo by Tobi(3rd Rikudoo), so i really doubt that even Izanami could work(if Itachi even have time to do that), regardless of the fact that Izanami is not even a suitable jutsu in some situations

 

[Scooby Doo]

- I'm not saying he can use it(from what we've seen from him). I'm saying he can break it. Breaking and doing are 2things different
- why are you talking about pein bodies? It was not about pein body i was talking about. It was a civil man in Nagato's country. We can even suppose he put this barrier against genjutsu to everyone in his country since he couldn't know that Jiraya would precisely capture that man. Compare this man:

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to this man:

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Where do you see a pein body here??
- Tobi said that you are consider as a rikudoo if you're capable to do Izanagi right? Nagato is considered as a rikudoo by Tobi(3rd Rikudoo), so i really doubt that even Izanami could work(if Itachi even have time to do that), regardless of the fact that Izanami is not even a suitable jutsu in some situations

Oh sorry my fault.
But if he put a genjutsu barrier into fodders' mind then why didnt he use this on the pein bodies?

 

[Blaze Release]

ok enought of your bullshit. tell me can itachi tuskuyomi SO6P and one shot him beacuse SO6P isnt an uchihaa and according to manga /itachi/kishi only uchihaas can break tsukuyomi.:flaw:

There are certain things you shouldnt include when you speak of the sage. Secondly its his blood, his abilities than run through the veins of these clans so no tsukuyomi or any other eye technique would fail when it comes to the sage

 

[Bogard]

Oh sorry my fault.
But if he put a genjutsu barrier into fodders' mind then why didnt he use this on the pein bodies?

Maybe cuz pein bodies don't have minds...

 

[Scooby Doo]

Maybe cuz pein bodies don't have minds...

Good point I accept this

 

[Maunten]

Ok I was just talking about normal genjutsus, of course there are some stronger ones but Tsukoyomi's advantage is that it needs only eye contact and not much preparaion or handseals.And I just said that the genjutsubarrier Nagato used couldnt be that strong if it couldnt protect the peins from Jiraiya's genjutsu. IMO

Jiraiyas genjutsu is a sage art, nagato would not have known much about it, there is also very little defense against a sound genjutsu, other than covering your ears but it's so loud I doubt that would work, TBH the ins and outs of that tech I don't know at all, all I know is that it needs lots of prep and it's sound genjutsu, so I won't use it to excuse nagato falling victim to it.

I am not saying that nagato won't fall into tsukyomi, and I doubt he can fight it like sasuke could, it may be a stretch to say he can get out of tsukyomi easily, because it is a one shot genjutsu even by kage standards, but as a sensor type with a dojutsu that allows immense chakra control tsukyomi would not trap him like it did the A, bee or kakashi.