Nagato can easily break Tsukuyomi

[Blaze Release]

Nagato is a senor type that specialises in chakra control. He also has a dojutsu that would allow him to know when he is under a genjutsu.

This will most likely be my last post in this thread because im arguing with fan fiction. Anyway sensor or not, tsukuyomi cannot be broken by normal means. Secondly it last 1 second, even before you can disrupt your chakra which will still lead to no prevail, the illusion wouldve ended

"Itachi stated that Tsukuyomi can only be broken by a Sharingan user that shares the same blood as him; as demonstrated when Sasuke overcame Itachi's Tsukuyomi in their battle."

naruto wiki but then we seek jin breaking out...

Manga has made it clear that sasuke either doesnt have tsukuyomi or his tsukuyomi level is no where near that of itachi's

Sasukes tsyukyomi was weak and even if your stuck a second into Itachi tsukyomi then hours would have passed in the tsuykomi world.

I dont even belief sasuke has tsukuyomi but thats for another thread. Even if he does it isnt on itachi's level

To be hones shared vision would be Nagatos downfall, just one eye contact with a summon then boom he gets stuck in a tsukyomi.

Contrary to popular beliefs i actually dispute the shared vision theory and actually back the theory which i made but cannot be bothered to find nor can i type that all again that the shared vision is actually a counter for genjutsu. Dependant on who is caught.

Also how did this turn into a vs thread. In certain this was not only in the discussion section the title also doesnt state this

 

[Maunten]

yes they do, when the 5 kages vs the resurrected Madara, his eyes turn to the rinnegan form and they realize that the rinnegan is the final form

Madara changes from EMS to Rinnegan throughout the fight with the kages clearing showing that kabuto's theory was wrong and that the rinnegan is a seperate dojutsu that madara awakened through unknown means.

 

[TenzaZangetsu]

I am open to that possibility, but saying that a 3 tomoe sharingan broke out of tsukuyomi is wrong because you are referring to Sasuke, remember that the Sasuke-Itachi fight was a farce!, Itachi faked that so as to make the battle flow in Sasukes favour!!

 

[Scooby Doo]

u r idiot bro. when u say nagato then it includes his 6path also dude. so nagato without pain body is itachi without his genjutsu,susanoo,amatersu so keep that in mind.

sendonly we are talking about the time before death of nagato and pain and at that time every 1 said tobi=madara. even manga said so. so STFU

3rdly itachi didnt knew about nagato's power and plans. only tobi nagato and konona knew the plan.

No we dont maybe you do. The thread is about Nagato vs Itachi and not the 6paths vs Itachi...Nagato is like when he was edo and fought B and Naruto, ...
And you dont have to call me an idiot and tell me to STFU...its offending.
But ok I forgot that Itachi didnt know about CT so maybe he didnt know all his abilities but he must have known some of that, they were both akatsuki members for a long time, they used nagato's gedo mazo to absorb the bijuus' chakra and when Kisame and Itachi fought Kakashi's and Gai's team ,they used Nagato's technique. And for example nagato has never seen susanoo probably neither he knows izanami.

 

[Maunten]

This will most likely be my last post in this thread because im arguing with fan fiction. Anyway sensor or not, tsukuyomi cannot be broken by normal means. Secondly it last 1 second, even before you can disrupt your chakra which will still lead to no prevail, the illusion wouldve ended



Manga has made it clear that sasuke either doesnt have tsukuyomi or his tsukuyomi level is no where near that of itachi's

If you are arguing with fan fiction it is definitely now with me.

Now I never denied that sasuke's tsukuyomi is much weaker than itachis, but sasuke still over came itachis tsukuyomi and he knew when he was in it.

Dojutsu users can over come tsukuyomi.

You not believing sasuke has tsukuyomi, then claiming you are do not rate fan fiction is quite a paradox.

 

[Scooby Doo]

I am open to that possibility, but saying that a 3 tomoe sharingan broke out of tsukuyomi is wrong because you are referring to Sasuke, remember that the Sasuke-Itachi fight was a farce!, Itachi faked that so as to make the battle flow in Sasukes favour!!

This!!! Dont forget this.

 

[Blaze Release]

If youa re arguing with fan fiction it is definitely now with me.

Now I never denied that sasuke's tsukuyomi is much weaker than itachis, but sasuke still over came itachis tsukuyomi and he knew when he was in it.

Dojutsu users can over come tsukuyomi.

I just went far as to upload a DB entry which disproves of what youve stated above and yet you state it again :shrug:

You not believing sasuke has tsukuyomi, then claiming you are do not rate fan fiction is quite a paradox.

Danzo has not only made it clear the latest manga chapters has also.

 

[Maunten]

I just went far as to upload a DB entry which disproves of what youve stated above and yet you state it again :shrug:



Danzo has not only made it clear the latest manga chapters has also.

A dataook entry? Yes because naruto battles work like final fantasy games...which entry are you talking about, non of what I have said is based strongly enough on speculation for a databook entry to disprove.


Danzo made it clear that sasuke's tsukuyomi was weaker than itachi's not non existent.

 

[yuan of cruxis]

All i can say is this it would not one shot Nagato nor would it a viable option if Nagato simply closes his eyes and uses his summons to see for him

Itachi fanboys rely on this because they have nothing else they know Nagato is far beyond him

And Nagagato fanboys rely on his tensei

Besides Nagatos summonings have shared vision meaning if one gets hit, they all get hit

 

[Scooby Doo]

A dataook entry? Yes because naruto battles work like final fantasy games...which entry are you talking about, non of what I have said is based strongly enough on speculation for a databook entry to disprove.


Danzo made it clear that sasuke's tsukuyomi was weaker than itachi's not non existent.

It says it was only a normal genjutsu not tsukoyomi

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[Blaze Release]

A dataook entry? Yes because naruto battles work like final fantasy games...which entry are you talking about, non of what I have said is based strongly enough on speculation for a databook entry to disprove.

Not sure what you mean. I dont play final fantasy games

Danzo made it clear that sasuke's tsukuyomi was weaker than itachi's not non existent.

What danzo said can be translated in 2 ways depending on how you understand it

 

[Maunten]

And Nagagato fanboys rely on his tensei

Besides Nagatos summonings have shared vision meaning if one gets hit, they all get hit

Eye contact is a neccessary condition but not a sufficient condition for tsukyomi to work, for example tsukuyomi is not always active, it needs to be activated by itachi.

A sensor ninja, with an extremely advanced dojutsu that has prowess in chakra control can break it.

 

[nagato009]

never under estimate the rinnegan wielders

 

[Maunten]

Not sure what you mean. I dont play final fantasy games



What danzo said can be translated in 2 ways depending on how you understand it

In final fantasy games, you and your opponent let the other attack, it's like each person has a turn to attack, or move while the other remains still.

I could compare it to maybe pokemon cards, I'm just stating that A>B in one respect does not mean that a>b in battle.

Also why use a dual translated statement made by danzo as a pillar of your argument when the principle of charity would suggest you use the one which supports my argument.

 

[Blaze Release]

In final fantasy games, you and your opponent let the other attack, it's like each person has a turn to attack, or move while the other remains still.

I could compare it to maybe pokemon cards, I'm just stating that A>B in one respect does not mean that a>b in battle.

Dont believe what you've said is valid in regard to what i said

Also why use a dual translated statement made by danzo as a pillar of your argument when the principle of charity would suggest you use the one which supports my argument.

All i stated wasnt just based on what danzo said but as i said with the latest manga release, but also what tobi said aswell.

Anyway we have different take on this topic, i just choose to go with the manga further backed by the databook

 

[Scooby Doo]

In final fantasy games, you and your opponent let the other attack, it's like each person has a turn to attack, or move while the other remains still.

I could compare it to maybe pokemon cards, I'm just stating that A>B in one respect does not mean that a>b in battle.

Also why use a dual translated statement made by danzo as a pillar of your argument when the principle of charity would suggest you use the one which supports my argument.

Yes so Nagato is stronger than Itachi overall but that doesnt mean Itachi cannot win.

 

[JKakano]

oh my f**king god! its already proof that nagato is weak to genjutsu. rinnegan can't be everything better than sharingan.. its true nagato powerful than itachi but only one itachi can beat with powerful genjutsu that all.. nagato have everything but not genjutsu.. sorry but its fact. nagato can't break izaunmi. nagato fanboy and itachi fanboy need to stop thinking it powerful without proof.. just accept nagato have almost everything than itachi but itachi is powerful for genjutsu.. just move on im tired to hearing itachi or nagato.. Madara is powerful than both of them.. nagato and itachi are dead so forget them man!

 

[Maunten]

It says it was only a normal genjutsu not tsukoyomi

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Susanoo is only usable by people who have both tsukuyomi and amaterasu, though this fact could just be a ruse, as when tobi was called madara, to stall the revelation of other MS techs.

 

[WhistleBlower]

nagato can easily win he has rinnegan which is better than sharingan as it has everything included : ,perfect vision , sensor, chakra obsorbtion, summoning, pulling n bringing forth items, taking out souls n reading minds , also bringing dead to life!

 

[Maunten]

Dont believe what you've said is valid in regard to what i said



All i stated wasnt just based on what danzo said but as i said with the latest manga release, but also what tobi said aswell.

Anyway we have different take on this topic, i just choose to go with the manga further backed by the databook

what one character in the manga said who had never fought a rinnegan user, the data book states implies very strongly that sasuke has tsukuyomi.