Nagato awakened the rinnegan

[El Batman]

Nagato was given his Rinnegan, in my opinion

 

[Tosen]

Nagato was given his Rinnegan, in my opinion

Good for you batman

 

[ImNoOne]

Exactly, I would think that the Ms and EMS were way more common in the earlier uchiha history when the so6p blood and dna was stronger with the Uchiha.

We have absolutely no proof of this, but I agree with you, it makes perfect sense to me.

 

[Tosen]

We have absolutely no proof of this, but I agree with you, it makes perfect sense to me.

If kishi follows simple genetics and common sense then it should be the case but knowing kishi he prob doesn't follow logic all to often.

 

[thepizzaguy]

I kinda he was born with the rinnegen because to unlock it from a young age would be hard to immagine.

 

[Tosen]

I kinda he was born with the rinnegen because to unlock it from a young age would be hard to immagine.

I guess so

 

[Kaedon]

I understand the theory you are supporting here (Tobi being a liar) but to tell everyone to flat out stop believing in the only presented factual information on how Nagato could have achieved his rinnegan is a bit much.

I'm all for sharing theories and having fun, interesting conversations about the naurtoverse but you shouldn't chastise the people who choose to follow the actual plot for what it is at the moment.

 

[Mante]

Maybe Madara gave it, not Tobi >_>

 

[Raikiri10]

I mean time and time again we see posts claiming that Madara gave Nagato the rinnegan however you people do realize that it came from the mouth of a liar, who lied about being Madara and being involved in the attack on Konoha when Naruto was born. I mean people do you enjoy being lied to time and time again smh I thought we all would learn by now not to trust Tobi :|.

And I understand Tobi may have given Nagato the rinnegan but please people do not jump to conclusions so fast, who knows Madara might have known Nagato by some other means.

Yeah im of a similar opinion besides maybe Uzamaki/Senju shinobi are capable of awakening the rinnegan only at the cost of skipping MS and EMS so they gain none of those techniques.

 

[bruce lee was uchiha]

Is this a joke? Kabuto already proved that the Rinnegan is the final evolution of the Sharingan, you're telling me an Uzumaki awakened it? Fool.

in the same token... kakashi awakened his MS, and he isn't an uchiha. Alot is still unknown about the rinnegan.

 

[saar0507]

how can he unlock the rinnengan if he dont have ems the the condition to get the rinnengan and also he is an uzumaki

 

[sageovsixpaths]

will some one tell me how to make my own post i have a good one

 

[sageovsixpaths]

well a uzumaki can if he becomes the next sage of six paths

 

[mim123]

I have a question... if it was implanted... How come he doesn't go toggle through sharingan first then to the rinnegan? It seems like it's always on.

 

[Scryed]

The Rinnegan is naturally awakened from the EMS which Nagato didn't seem to have. Afterall, he would be able to use sharingan stages himself.

Kakashi awakened the MS. I have seen Kakashi toggle from the Sharingan to the MS though. Nagato would've been able to do the same if they were naturally his eyes. The Rinnegan is the evolution from the sharingan so i'm actually wondering how Nagato can't use the sharingan techs either even if they were implanted.

Maybe he just didn't know how to since it was implanted as the Rinnegan from the start.

If they were naturally awakened, he would've been born as an Uchiha.

 

[Troyg39]

I think Tobi simply set up the conditions for Nagato to awaken Rinnegan, I don't think the physical eyes were actually implanted in his skull. Say what you want, but saying that Nagato didn't have the EMS abilities because he isn't a Uchiha is a failed point, and BIG hole in the theory that Madara gave Nagato the physical eyes. You don't lose the eyes abilities it unlocks just because it's been transplanted. We've seen Kakashi still use Sharingan abilities and even improve them. He's not a Uchiha. And Ao has a transplanted Byakugan and he's not a Hyuga, yet he can use it's abilities.

I think when Tobi says he gave Nagato the Rinnegan he simply means he awakened the powers. That's why Nagato's eyes look like that permanently. They are actually his eyes since he's the true Rinnegan bearer. He just needed help awakening the paths. Tobi probably orchestrated that attack on his parents or something.

 

[mim123]

I think Tobi simply set up the conditions for Nagato to awaken Rinnegan, I don't think the physical eyes were actually implanted in his skull. Say what you want, but saying that Nagato didn't have the EMS abilities because he isn't a Uchiha is a failed point, and BIG hole in the theory that Madara gave Nagato the physical eyes. You don't lose the eyes abilities it unlocks just because it's been transplanted. We've seen Kakashi still use Sharingan abilities and even improve them. He's not a Uchiha. And Ao has a transplanted Byakugan and he's not a Hyuga, yet he can use it's abilities.

I think when Tobi says he gave Nagato the Rinnegan he simply means he awakened the powers. That's why Nagato's eyes look like that permanently. They are actually his eyes since he's the true Rinnegan bearer. He just needed help awakening the paths. Tobi probably orchestrated that attack on his parents or something.

Hmm that theory is quite interesting. I think you may be right.

 

[Troyg39]

Hmm that theory is quite interesting. I think you may be right.

Thanks. I mean I'm not going to get too crazy and say I'm definately right, but it just makes more sense to me that way. The transplanted eye theory still could be correct too, but I just think there are too many holes for now.

I mean I know Nagato isn't a Uchiha and the Rinnegan can be awakened as an evolution of the Sharingan. But that's why it makes no sense for him to have transplanted eyes. If Nagato's eyes are implanted, yet being a non-uchiha keeps him from using sharingan abilities, how can he use the abilities of the Rinnegan if it is supposedly a variation of the Sharingan, which everyone is saying Nagato can't use in the first place since he's not a Uchiha? Nagato should atleast be able to use Susanoo.The theory just falls in on itself to me. :shrug:

 

[mim123]

Thanks. I mean I'm not going to get too crazy and say I'm definately right, but it just makes more sense to me that way. The transplanted eye theory still could be correct too, but I just think there are too many holes for now.

I mean I know Nagato isn't a Uchiha and the Rinnegan can be awakened as an evolution of the Sharingan. But that's why it makes no sense for him to have transplanted eyes. If Nagato's eyes are implanted, yet being a non-uchiha keeps him from using sharingan abilities, how can he use the abilities of the Rinnegan if it is supposedly a variation of the Sharingan, which everyone is saying Nagato can't use in the first place since he's not a Uchiha? Nagato should atleast be able to use Susanoo.The theory just falls in on itself to me. :shrug:

However, Madara knew about Nagato (if you recall when he came out of his coffin at first as an edo). So he might have told Tobi to implant his eyes into somebody that could bear the Rinnegan, like an Uzamaki with strong chakra (let's not forget the Uzamaki clan is also related to the Senju clan). Then again how could Madara possible have known Nagato's name? (Madara died long before Nagato was born) It just doesn't make sense :shrug:
To poke even more holes into that theory if he was given Madara's eyes then it would have been natural for him to activate the Sharingan first, then the rinnegan. Then again if he was given Madara's eye when it was activated Nagato wouldn't have been able to turn it on and it seems like he turned it on by himself later. If he had it all along (which he didn't) other ninja's would have noticed before Jiraiya.
OR
If you are right Tobi simply set up the conditions for Nagato to awaken the eyes by himself, wouldn't it mean Naruto would be able to get the rinnegan? He is an Uzamaki after all, of course assuming he met all the conditions. (What ever they may be)

 

[Troyg39]

However, Madara knew about Nagato (if you recall when he came out of his coffin at first as an edo). So he might have told Tobi to implant his eyes into somebody that could bear the Rinnegan, like an Uzamaki with strong chakra (let's not forget the Uzamaki clan is also related to the Senju clan). Then again how could Madara possible have known Nagato's name? (Madara died long before Nagato was born) It just doesn't make sense :shrug:
To poke even more holes into that theory if he was given Madara's eyes then it would have been natural for him to activate the Sharingan first, then the rinnegan. Then again if he was given Madara's eye when it was activated Nagato wouldn't have been able to turn it on and it seems like he turned it on by himself later. If he had it all along (which he didn't) other ninja's would have noticed before Jiraiya.
OR
If you are right Tobi simply set up the conditions for Nagato to awaken the eyes by himself, wouldn't it mean Naruto would be able to get the rinnegan? He is an Uzamaki after all, of course assuming he met all the conditions. (What ever they may be)

Exactly. Full of holes and possibilities. That is where the fun is in all this I suppose. I personally think somehow Madara and Tobi have been able to communicate with one another this entire time. If so, Madara could've known about Nagato that way. I have no idea how that can be though. It's just too early to tell. And I think the first time J-Man actually saw Nagato's eyes was when Nagato used Rinnegan on those ninja. Nagato always had his eyes covered, so its possible J-man didn't notice what they looked like until then. Also, not many people in the manga know or believe in the so6p. Most either don't know about it or consider it a myth from what we've been shown, which could account for Nagato's parents not being alarmed by a son who has purple eyes with spirals in them