that means hes only the best in his CLAN,Madara was the best among his PEOPLE
the strongest clan of the strongest village.
while hashirama was said to be the strongest of his ERA!,
solely because he had a lot of bijuus under his control.
if you can fight the strongest shinobi in the world (at that time)(hashirama)that many times and at least survive(not win because that otta madaras reach lol) but at least survive than of course your gonna be respected,
you JUST SAID that hashirama was curbstomping him repeatedly and letting him live out of kindness. so why would someone be famous for that? why would they be legendary equal rivals if madara never won a single clash against him? if no one ever beat hashirama then the clans wouldnt bother calling uchihas to come stop him. theyd just give up.
his power was said to be a fairy tail just like the SOT6P,
some people claimed pain didnt exist after he killed hanzo and revered him as a god. kabuto basically said people heard about hashiramas power and dismissed it as a lie because obviously all legends are exagerrated. they are terrified of madara/tobi because of how old he is and what tricks he might have up his sleeve. and they quickly realise edo madara is no fairy tale because they are seeing his power firsthand and still call it the power of a god
strongest shinobi of his TIME!, ya know? the absolute undisputed champion of the world in his TIME
if hes undisputed how come madara earned a reputation by being the only one who can stand up to him?
where did he prove it?
only hashirama can FIGHT madara because hashirama was the only man who could put madara in his PLACE
how do you know? did you have a detailed accounting of every battle madaras ever fought? if hashirama was that great, how come he died so early?
and you can't make the excuse that madara was fighting for hashirama his DNA because he could have gotten that rather or not hashirama was dead or alive
he got living tissue and thats what he needs to be able to cultivate it into zetsu. dead cells are useless to him.
right their proves by its madara was just simply the weaker of the two
no it doesnt. we dont know what happened. maybe madara lost by luck by tripping on a rock or something. maybe hashirama outsmarted him ala shikamaru. maybe madara was already weakened to begin with. maybe hashirama didnt do much fighitng and just turned kurama on madara
because hashirama managed to control several bijjus in unison,
how do you know it was in unison?
while madara has only been said to control 1? LMFAO!
he needs only one, the strongest one.
hashirama makes him look so bad
then how come everyones terrified of madara, and consider him a god?
madara couldn't even beat hashirama at his best,
how do you know? they fought countless times and if someone hired senju, the opponent would hire uchihas. why bother if hashirama was just going to stomp anyone he came across? we have no idea if either combatant were actually at their best in VOTE.
madara was was obsessed with beating him,
madara only cared about greater power and knew hed get the rinnegan if he fought the battle to gain acess to hashis DNA. madara cared about moons eye plan and needed the powers of his eyes augmented to implement it.
plus you have no proof and hashirama probably never fought him seriously until their final battle
i love how you demand proof from me but 1 second later, you assume crap and make shit up
hashirama was very merciful giving madara a truce guess he felt sorry for him after all the time he whipped him,
how do you know? they all were tired of killing each other. hashirama was tired of killing uchihas and vice versa.
madara hates hashirama for beating his ass so much that he wants to kill tsunade 1st just because shes a descendant of hashirama
he hates weak senjus and weak women. hashirama was a strong senju and a strong man. so madara must have loved him. at the very least he admires him and wishes he was alive.
madaras only famous because of the fact that he managed to survive
so why isnt kakuzu equally famous? madara is famous because hes the second best of that era, and the most terrifying uchiha ever, due to having the eternal mangekeyo. it was well known fact shodai took him out but people still were worried about him returning as hed be the only one strong enough to attack konoha 16 years ago according to their knowledge. onoki said "with your power you can do anything you want" so ems prime madara > 5 kage
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first: dan lived many years after tobirama's death. hiruzen was already a geezer in his time.
second: when has he been said to be a bastion of knowledge and researched everyones powers?
third: he said this after hearing madara was now an immortal edo tensei. obviously hashi knew a sealing tech strong enough to seal him away. one such tech also came about many years after dans death. it saved konoha twice. so dan is pretty clueless about events before and after his time.
what makes you think madara had a prayer against hashirama?
he obviously hurt him very badly in their final fight
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and they erected statues of BOTH. the fight was intense and even that it carved a hole in the earth that became VOTE.
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if it was just another stomp then why bother?
hashirama whipped madara and tamed kurama at the same time,
no he didnt. he gained control over kurama after madara lost control.
minato: if hes really madara then he cant summon nine tails for very long.
kushina: during the battle hashirama gained control over the nine tails and in order to better aid him, mito sama sealed it inside herself.
hashirama couldnt let kurama ROAM FREE any longer so he captured him and had mito seal him away
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madara was the only one who opposed and he got dealt with, even fled the village got stronger came back with kurama AND STILL......got dealt with LMFAO
after pushing his rival to the absolute limit and taking on the whole village alone
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and possibly hashirama kurama and mito all at once alone.
