Nagato and Madara vs Minato and Hashirama

Madara and Nagato vs Minato and Hashirama

  • Madara and Nagato low diff

    Votes: 6 12.0%
  • Madara and Nagato mid diff

    Votes: 9 18.0%
  • Madara and Nagato high diff

    Votes: 11 22.0%
  • Minato and Hashirama low diff

    Votes: 6 12.0%
  • Minato and Hashirama mid diff

    Votes: 5 10.0%
  • Minato and Hashirama high diff

    Votes: 13 26.0%

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USSJ Future Trunks

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Minato and Hashirama. W/o mokuuton and rinnegan Madara is'nt much at all.He lost to Hashirama with the Kyuubi so he loses again
that makes NO sense. firstly, we dont know how he lost. secondly, who is to say he will simply make the same mistake again and not come up with a counter strategy? we dont know if he can uze izanagi or izanami. which dont require rinnegan

Nagato is'nt mobile, remember? That was the whole reason he got sealed by Itachi.
he was sealed by itachi because he was controlled and facing 3 kage levels at once.

Hashirama will kill Madara
he couldnt before. what makes you think he can now?
 
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What Nagato? Nagato in that machine? Pain? Healthy?

Anyways, I think Madara and Nagato takes this. Hashirama beats Madara, Nagato beats Minato and then Madara gets revived by rinne tensei. Nagato & Madara >>> Hashirama.

For those who would say that rinne tensei takes a lot of time and chakra, you're forgeting that Nagato was actually dying and revived a whole village.
 

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Hashirama beats Madara
why do peopel assume if he cna do it once he must be able to do it again? whatever tricks he used, madara wont fall for them twice. hashirama thinks he killed madara, he died thinking hed killed him. what else did the world get wrong about that fight?
 

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why do peopel assume if he cna do it once he must be able to do it again? whatever tricks he used, madara wont fall for them twice. hashirama thinks he killed madara, he died thinking hed killed him. what else did the world get wrong about that fight?

Madara lost with the 9 tails too, imagine him w/o the 9 tails
 

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Nagato and Madara should win this mid difficulty. Nagato is strongest here. Minato is weakest in this fight.
 

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Minato>EMS Madara
Hashirama will give a good fight to Nagato with his Mokuton bunshins, high scale of Mokuton ninjutsus, and when Minato is finish, they kill Nagato together
 

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Minato>EMS Madara
Hashirama will give a good fight to Nagato with his Mokuton bunshins, high scale of Mokuton ninjutsus, and when Minato is finish, they kill Nagato together

LOL. Madara is a legend.
 

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A weak legend then

You know not of which you speak of my friend. :hint: So I'm going to quote myself from a thread showing some of Madara's prowess.



IMO Madara actually did live up to his hype as Hashirama's rival. Before you say "EMS Madara would lose to the 5 kages" which is probably true. Do you honestly see any kage beating 5 hokages? Nope not even Hashirama has that kind of power to take on 5 kages on his own. So I would just like point out some things that kind of made EMS Madara OP.

First his Katon jutsu is off the charts. Look at that range and how many people it took to counter.

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People countering. Took a whole division.
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Now remember Madara's war fan? It was used to power his fire techniques. Now combine with the fact Madara didn't even use the war fan to do this?? Imagine how powerful his fire techniques were fighting Hashirama.

Madara also must have had Tsuykomi and Amaterasu because according to the databooks they are requirements for Susanoo. These techniques as well all know are already OP.

Susanoo
is the third ability granted by the Mangekyō Sharingan after awakening the abilities in both eyes.[1] It creates a gigantic, humanoid being that surrounds the user. As the strongest technique granted to those that have acquired the Mangekyō Sharingan, it is the user's guardian deity, but at the same time, it consumes the user's life

He also had knowledge of Tsuykomi when he was revived.
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Now we all know Susanoo is arguebly the best defence in Naruto. No one has yet to break it completely and put a dent in a full one. It has OP attack and defence options. Just think how completely Overpowered it is to have a jumping mobile Susanoo that can perform handseals.

Again look at the range of his Katon
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OK.. Look at how huge Madaras Susanoo is!
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What I'm trying to say is you guys aren't giving EMS Madara enough credit. He was/is insanely OP and we have to see the extent of his abilities. He was Hashiramas rival for a reason.
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First, Nagato is Badass but hasnt got very much smartness.Strengh is not everything.
Second, i believe Madara is equally powerful with hashirama.

Here deciding factor is hashi's healing power and minato's intelligence..
 

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You know not of which you speak of my friend. :hint:
His katon could be easily avoided by Minato who is easily the fastest ninja ever, or simply teleported like he did with TBB, what i think you must know is much more powerful :hint:
He never use tsukiyomi in fight so far i know. That means it's not his fighting style. The only problem could be Susanoo, but Minato has shown he was capable to teleport Kyubi without touching him, meaning there is a range where he can teleport humans or objects, so he can actually do something like that.

Don't also forget what Minato said when he thought Tobi was Madara. He said: "it doesn't matter who you are", meaning that "whether you are Madara or not, i'm still gonna beat you" And Minato is a very knowledgeable ninja. Proof is that he knew that Madara can't control Kyubi for too long. So with all knowledge he had from Madara, he said it doesn't matter, meaning there could be no problem
 

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His katon could be easily avoided by Minato who is easily the fastest ninja ever, or simply teleported like he did with TBB, what i think you must know is much more powerful :hint:
He never use tsukiyomi in fight so far i know. That means it's not his fighting style. The only problem could be Susanoo, but Minato has shown he was capable to teleport Kyubi without touching him, meaning there is a range where he can teleport humans or objects, so he can actually do something like that.

Don't also forget what Minato said when he thought Tobi was Madara. He said: "it doesn't matter who you are", meaning that "whether you are Madara or not, i'm still gonna beat you" And Minato is a very knowledgeable ninja. Proof is that he knew that Madara can't control Kyubi for too long. So with all knowledge he had from Madara, he said it doesn't matter, meaning there could be no problem



Kyuubi was being held down meaning. If he was going to teleport something it would have at least been stationary. Something Madara isn't going to allow. If Madara is anything like Sasuke which I believe he is he will use genjutsu in a fight. Minato's weakness would be genjutsu since FTG moves to seal to seal the counters for it would be unlimited. If Minato decides to teleport his large katon it will only waste alot of chakra.


I doubt Minato knew what the real Madara is capable of. Minato was just acting out as the hokage. As if Minato would just say I'm gonna gtfo cause it's Madara.
 

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Minato is easily the fastest shinobi alive. We cannot forget that Madara squared off against one of the strongest ninja of his time. Not only did he fight him and survived long enough to awaken the Rinnengan but when he was revived he already knew how to use the Rinnengan and Mokuton.
 

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Minato>EMS Madara
Hashirama will give a good fight to Nagato with his Mokuton bunshins, high scale of Mokuton ninjutsus, and when Minato is finish, they kill Nagato together

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Somebody call 911. Tell them it's a junkie. Only drugs can make one tell this phrase without a quote: "Minato>EMS Madara"
 

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Not only did he fight him and survived long enough to awaken the Rinnengan but when he was revived he already knew how to use the Rinnengan and Mokuton
madara unlocked rinnegan at the end of his (very long if im right about my calculations) life
 

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hashirama whooped madara while he had ems plus kurama with him, if madara didn't have kurama with him, that chump would have been finished off a lot sooner, so theirs no barely to it and if madara couldn't even win with all that, tell me something what the hell do think happened all the other times when he tried to fight hashirama?obviously he lost them all, even became blind stole his brother eyes and still lost, so its pretty much self-explanatory that madara has never defeated hashirama, cause he kept coming back over and over and over just to get his ass stomped again,again, and again just face it, and nagato would beat minato in the long run but that ****ers gonna be very difficult to catch, but overall in the end it will be hashirama vs nagato....and nagato will win because hashirama would be to beat up to fight nagato someones whos arguably as strong ems madara if not stronger,so of course hashirama would lose.
 
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hashi would kill madara
he couldnt last time with kurama under his control. what makes you think he even has a prayer without it?

Madara dies fighting the first
like he did last time? OH WAIT.

hashirama whooped madara while he had ems plus kurama with him
actually we dont know what happened. it was a fight to the death, and hashriama was bleeding heavily, and couldnt use one of his eyes. kushina stated hashirama gained control over kurama during the battle, and minato said madara cant control kurama for very long. meaning it was actually hashirama and kurama vs madara all alone. and hashirama still could not finish the job. the world thinks he won because they thought he killed madara.

if madara didn't have kurama with him, that chump would have been finished off a lot sooner
if he didnt have kurama, then hashirama wouldnt have been able to steal control and use it on him. without kurama, madara and hashirama fought constantly and were unabel to kill each other.

o theirs no barely to it and if madara couldn't even win with all that,
he didnt want to win. he wanted hashiramas living tissue that ended up as either becoming zetsu or the hashirama in tobis basement. all to get the rinnegan.

tell me something what the hell do think happened all the other times when he tried to fight hashirama?obviously he lost them all
how could you possibly know that? they were equal rivals and enemies of senju looked to uchihas to fight them for them. thats because uchihas won some of the battles. the only reason hashirama was picked as hokage was his unique bijuu manipulating skills.

, even became blind stole his brother eyes and still lost,
why do you think izuna let him have his eyes? because madara knew hashirama would destroy the uchihas if madara wasnt around to protect them.
so its pretty much self-explanatory that madara has never defeated hashirama
is it? then why was he getting famous during his battles with him if he was humilated every time? thats nothing to be proud of. and itachi said madara was overpowering everyone with his EMS. as i said we dont know how these battles went especially the final one. maybe hashirama won by luck or by outsmarting him. maybe they knocked each other out and people assumed hashi won as madara faked his death to escape with hashiramas living tissue/powers. at the least hashirama was pushed to his limit every time they fought.
 

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he couldnt last time with kurama under his control. what makes you think he even has a prayer without it?

like he did last time? OH WAIT.

actually we dont know what happened. it was a fight to the death, and hashriama was bleeding heavily, and couldnt use one of his eyes. kushina stated hashirama gained control over kurama during the battle, and minato said madara cant control kurama for very long. meaning it was actually hashirama and kurama vs madara all alone. and hashirama still could not finish the job. the world thinks he won because they thought he killed madara.

if he didnt have kurama, then hashirama wouldnt have been able to steal control and use it on him. without kurama, madara and hashirama fought constantly and were unabel to kill each other.

he didnt want to win. he wanted hashiramas living tissue that ended up as either becoming zetsu or the hashirama in tobis basement. all to get the rinnegan.

how could you possibly know that? they were equal rivals and enemies of senju looked to uchihas to fight them for them. thats because uchihas won some of the battles. the only reason hashirama was picked as hokage was his unique bijuu manipulating skills.

why do you think izuna let him have his eyes? because madara knew hashirama would destroy the uchihas if madara wasnt around to protect them.
is it? then why was he getting famous during his battles with him if he was humilated every time? thats nothing to be proud of. and itachi said madara was overpowering everyone with his EMS. as i said we dont know how these battles went especially the final one. maybe hashirama won by luck or by outsmarting him. maybe they knocked each other out and people assumed hashi won as madara faked his death to escape with hashiramas living tissue/powers. at the least hashirama was pushed to his limit every time they fought.
If he was able to turn madara own weapon on him that shows just how much better than madara he is, you say he didn't want to win but apparently he lost every time, why would he suffer another defeat when he knows he obviously can't win? so he at least not "if" but WHEN he lost(or rather by surviving the fight he knows he would gain something of higher value than just taking another lost empty handed thats probably why he brought kurama to assure that) he'll at least have the requirements for rinnegan,madara lost he got kurama striped from him during the battle and got defeated, hashirama had a shit load of skill and knows very well of what he was doing, besides you talk about finishing the job and shit, tell me this what point did hashirama have for trashing madara? because he already was hokage, he stood at the top of the ninja as the strongest ninja of his, era, he was well respected by everyone even by his enemys, he mastered in ninjutsu,taijutsu,and genjutsu, and wood release, hashirama needed no luck to be beat madara, thats the other way around madaras the underdog in the equation thats why he got kurama because his powers by themselves don't match to hashirama's,at the end of the fight madara was probably using his hate for hashirama to keep himself alive did you see the condition he was in? when he had all those swords in him? thats not faking your death thats barely holding on, and why would madara protect the uchihas when he hated them for turning their backs on him?and if "protecting them" was the case how can he protect them when he can barely protect himself against hashirama?and **** itachi madara he said he lost,thats the point madara came back stronger each time and still lost, its a curse of hatred is why madara would keep going back to try and defeat hashirama even if he loses keeps losing,because hashirama is just simply better than madara, thats how the story says it and madara even admits its, btw how do you know hashirama was pushed to the limit everytime they fought when madara only fought with kurama once? for all you know the time madara fought hashirama with kurama was probably the only time hashirama had a extremely difficult time dealing with him, and basically your telling me that hashirama had to fight solo against the both of them at the same time for an extended period of time BEFORE he gained control of kurama and won and madara with all these gifted talents and EMS still couldn't win? thats rather pathetic dude no matter how you look at. hashirama>madara its sad but its true.
 
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