I have stated this on several threads in the past and today, but i wanted to make a thread to it... Please read it is pretty long but not too long, but under the spoiler tags below there are walls of texts. If comments are negative I will add more spoiler tags to make it less of a wall of text for you all but I think you guys may like the read.
Sasuke and Taka
Naruto in the other dimension
These are thoughts that have been in my head for years to this summer to the now. I mean I just have been too lazy to make a post like this. I feel like there are details I am forgetting. But I took a while to make this please read and tell me your thoughts. This is the first time I ever figured out how to put spoiler tags lol. Enjoy!!
PS: I dont know where the Sasuke and Izuna thing will come in, honestly I dont think it will go anywhere but we will see. I feel like in the beginning of this arc kishi backed himself in a corner and didnt know what to do and was winging a lot of this. Inevitably his route of defeating Madara was going to be through Rikudo's power seeping through Naruto IMO. The way this arc started was shitty IMO, I feel like Kishi needs extra things to drag it out a little bit, like a fight w Oro perhaps, Sasuke helping the alliance, everyone vs madara, long rikudo flashbacks, and a final battle against rikudo naruto and madara. I would really just prefer the fodder shinobi not to be there during the final fight I'd rather have it be a set group of people but I'm just talking realistic. They will probably just get rocked.
EDIT: PPS: I have also predicted Temari or Kankuro, and Kiba are also candidates who can die. As then at that point each team will have experienced pain and a loss in the series. And well Temari and Kankuro havent been shown in how long? Perfect chance for Kishi to give them panel time and then die
Sasuke and Taka
As far as a fight against Orochimaru, I am totally uncertain and that is just totally up in the air. Kishi could do that just to wrap up loose ends with Orochimaru and stall this arc. But I believe once Sasuke is healed (which should be really soon since this chapter ended with Naruto waking up in his subconscious[Kishi parallels them]) he more than likely will obtain a new dojutsu or he will just become much stronger, or even POTENTIALLY gain some form of wood style due to the senju dna Kabuto is giving him. But I think that before Sasuke and Company goes to where Madara and Guy are they're going to go back and help the alliance.
Note: I really dont think Sasuke will actually get wood style, if anybody it would be Naruto because he represents the body of the younger son(who was also the successor of the sage) and I give a good logical analysis that he could get wood style somehow. But I wouldn't be surprised if neither of them did get Wood Style
This would give Sasuke time to use/test/get use to his new powers and to see the full extent of his Sussan'o that he has been holding back...
Currently the alliance needs some sort of saving, the 5 kages are very weak, the alliance is running on fumes, and the third could get defeated at anytime. This would give Sasuke more redemption time and more reason for why Sasuke can be accepted back into the ninja world. At that point Sasuke and Spiral Zetsu would clash and obviously Sasuke would win after a skirmish and it will be revealed who is behind the Spiral suit. I think it is Yamato, and I will argue for forever that Shisui is dead [Danzo had his right shoulder/arm, Itachi last saw him with both arms, Danzo's men likely found him not long after he peace'd out to Itachi] but if Shisui is under the suit for some reason being controlled we could have some closing dialogue with him and Sasuke. (Again gives something for Kishi to stall this arc with)
It could be during this fight against Spiral Zetsu we could also really see if he does have perfect sussano or not, if not he could awaken it then and there or later on when he gets to Madara which I will get to in a sec.
Meanwhile, if Sasuke goes to help the alliance, i believe he will be only accompanied by Orochimaru, Karin, and Suigetsu(If Oro is still alive), I believe Juugo and DSM Kabuto will come to aid Kakashi and Guy etc fight Madara. The reason I pick these two is because they have natural energy. I feel like this would probably happen once Guy falls[Maybe Kabuto will heal Guy and thats how he survives..?] perhaps and then fighting with sage mode will be their next move. And after a few skirmishes, eventually the alliance and or Sasuke will show up (Yes Sasuke is leading the alliance at this point [essentially leading them since he will be the strongest and have the most fuel]) and the battle will continue to wage on.
At this point, I believe the Edo Hokages may be rendered useless, and maybe even disappear. The rods of the outer path could have the same effect in terms of canceling ninjutsu like Yin-Yang Release, once the rods are pulled out the edo tensei will disappear. Idk I just would prefer the current generation taking this fight. However, I believe Hashirama does need to be there for when we find out how Madara survived at the VOTE but we will see who is the one who asks him how he survived.
Once this fight begins with Sasuke joining it, I think at a certain point Madara will have already done so, or will kill Juugo since he is the weaker and easier one to kill that has natural energy. Then I think Juugo will fuse with Sasuke, give Sasuke the natural energy power up he needs, and then perhaps Sasuke will awaken his perfect sussano to its fullest ability (without Naruto) then I believe it will be Madara who states that Sasuke has awakened the PS in the sense he will say 'Hm it appears he can use the PS as well...' or some form of dialogue to himself that will give us, the readers, the info that Sasuke has PS' or something like... 'This could get interesting...Perfect Sussano and Sage Mode' This battle will go on for sometime.
Note: I really dont think Sasuke will actually get wood style, if anybody it would be Naruto because he represents the body of the younger son(who was also the successor of the sage) and I give a good logical analysis that he could get wood style somehow. But I wouldn't be surprised if neither of them did get Wood Style
This would give Sasuke time to use/test/get use to his new powers and to see the full extent of his Sussan'o that he has been holding back...
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we have yet to see the full abilities of THIS sussano by Sasuke's self. I imagined he was holding back for his fight w Naruto or that is what Kishi is planning to do. Sasuke would learn how to wield the rinnegan or elder son eyes against spiral zetsu.Currently the alliance needs some sort of saving, the 5 kages are very weak, the alliance is running on fumes, and the third could get defeated at anytime. This would give Sasuke more redemption time and more reason for why Sasuke can be accepted back into the ninja world. At that point Sasuke and Spiral Zetsu would clash and obviously Sasuke would win after a skirmish and it will be revealed who is behind the Spiral suit. I think it is Yamato, and I will argue for forever that Shisui is dead [Danzo had his right shoulder/arm, Itachi last saw him with both arms, Danzo's men likely found him not long after he peace'd out to Itachi] but if Shisui is under the suit for some reason being controlled we could have some closing dialogue with him and Sasuke. (Again gives something for Kishi to stall this arc with)
It could be during this fight against Spiral Zetsu we could also really see if he does have perfect sussano or not, if not he could awaken it then and there or later on when he gets to Madara which I will get to in a sec.
Meanwhile, if Sasuke goes to help the alliance, i believe he will be only accompanied by Orochimaru, Karin, and Suigetsu(If Oro is still alive), I believe Juugo and DSM Kabuto will come to aid Kakashi and Guy etc fight Madara. The reason I pick these two is because they have natural energy. I feel like this would probably happen once Guy falls[Maybe Kabuto will heal Guy and thats how he survives..?] perhaps and then fighting with sage mode will be their next move. And after a few skirmishes, eventually the alliance and or Sasuke will show up (Yes Sasuke is leading the alliance at this point [essentially leading them since he will be the strongest and have the most fuel]) and the battle will continue to wage on.
At this point, I believe the Edo Hokages may be rendered useless, and maybe even disappear. The rods of the outer path could have the same effect in terms of canceling ninjutsu like Yin-Yang Release, once the rods are pulled out the edo tensei will disappear. Idk I just would prefer the current generation taking this fight. However, I believe Hashirama does need to be there for when we find out how Madara survived at the VOTE but we will see who is the one who asks him how he survived.
Once this fight begins with Sasuke joining it, I think at a certain point Madara will have already done so, or will kill Juugo since he is the weaker and easier one to kill that has natural energy. Then I think Juugo will fuse with Sasuke, give Sasuke the natural energy power up he needs, and then perhaps Sasuke will awaken his perfect sussano to its fullest ability (without Naruto) then I believe it will be Madara who states that Sasuke has awakened the PS in the sense he will say 'Hm it appears he can use the PS as well...' or some form of dialogue to himself that will give us, the readers, the info that Sasuke has PS' or something like... 'This could get interesting...Perfect Sussano and Sage Mode' This battle will go on for sometime.
Naruto in the other dimension
Many of us have speculated and believe Naruto will get some sort of Juubi essence power up. While it is possible, I do not think it will actually happen. It is 100% plausible don't get me wrong, I just think Kishi will go with a different direction. Naruto is the savior and needs an extreme god like power-up in order to finish off Madara. Obviously when the Alliance and or Sasuke and Taka arrive they will not just defeat Madara that easily it will be a good fight but Madara will obviously have the greater advantage.
But, during the obito fight it was clear that Sasuke was the one in need of a serious boost and well he got Hashirama Chakra(Probably temporarily), Senju DNA(stronger life force and all that junk), potentially the Rinnegan and Watered down wood style, and Juugo's natural energy ability. You're probably thinking Sasuke would be too OP at this point, but the thing is I am pretty sure if Naruto just had the whole kyuubi then he would be even with all that power Sasuke has still. Having the whole Kyuubi could entitle him to gaining more chakra natures and obviously double his current nine tailed power
Yin can be defined as moon, water, earth, and Yang can be defined as fire and sun in chinese mythology. Totally hypothetical and this is just a side point, but if that was the case Naruto could have wind, earth, fire, water, and maybe even wood style if this was real in the Naruto realm. Naruto's Yang Chakra Mode gives life to wood style, there must be some converse relationship with the Yin half and wood style, And when the two come together it could give Naruto wood style. All that alone would probably make the ratio in difference in Naruto and Sasuke's power to 51:49 instead of the Juubi Revival Arc scaling of 6:4. I'm going to get to my point in a second though.
Now I have mentioned above Madara will be fighting everyone in the alliance, all this will be going on while Naruto, Sakura, and Obito are in the other dimension. I can't really say what I think will happen to Obito, but I hold strong to the claim that Madara will get both eyes back. That would mean Obito would have to come out at some point whether it was with Naruto and Sakura or not. Maybe BZ will take control again and then rewarp him and Obito out of the dimension and that will cause panic to many of us, and the narutoverse because Obito is the only one who can really get Naruto and Sakura out.
But while all the fighting is going on, it is clear to all that Naruto is going to meet an elderly Sage of the Six Paths and a deep conversation and of course a shitload of flashbacks will occur. Flashbacks we all obviously will want of course. This will probably last about 10 chapters at the most as we do need to cover a lot of info/there is a lot of info that can be told by the sage pertaining to his life (Juubi fight, birth, childhood, sons, mother relationship, how they died, how just everything went down)
Once these flashbacks end, Naruto will tell the sage more of what is going on if the sage already does not know what is going on outside, Since the sage is elderly he will not be able to give Naruto a shitload of strength to lend, but he will be able to lend naruto the max strength he can which will just happen to be enough to be equal or a little bit stronger than the state madara will be in (he will get powered up due to having both eyes). Naruto in Rikudo form will be so strong that he will be able to get out of the Kamui dimension with Sakura without the use of Kamui. As the sage probably could use all the Uchiha jutsu. Naruto will be the last one to arrive to the scene when maybe all hope is lost and Madara is about to give the final blow, we will get a panel of everyone looking in shock as Naruto emerges from the dimension in a completely new get up and God mode. Then Naruto will have defeated him and will pull the bijuus out of Madara once more. Once defeated and lying on the ground Madara will be sealed into the ninja tools. This way Madara will not be killed and then the theme of violence is not the answer will be continued and succeeded into the ninja world.
Once the fight is over, Naruto and Rikudo will part and Rikudo's chakra will disappear, reverting Naruto back to his original form and the power Rikudo lends will also disappear. If Naruto were to keep this power he would be too OP for Sasuke. As they both must be equals in their fight with Naruto being a little bit more stronger. Naruto's power up will be temporary for that reason and that is why I can't imagine him getting some serious Juubi power up, but hey it IS totally possible and I would be okay with either scenario. Maybe he will hold onto a little bit of the power elderly rikudo lends him, who knows. Then when the battle is over were gonna get an aftermath chapter and everyone will cheer and the war will be over and we'll get like a laughing and exhausted scene of maybe the whole alliance or Naruto and Sasuke similar to Vegeta and Goku after beating Buu. Nine Tails Jin is unique to Naruto I don't think he will become a different host or have different powers.
But, during the obito fight it was clear that Sasuke was the one in need of a serious boost and well he got Hashirama Chakra(Probably temporarily), Senju DNA(stronger life force and all that junk), potentially the Rinnegan and Watered down wood style, and Juugo's natural energy ability. You're probably thinking Sasuke would be too OP at this point, but the thing is I am pretty sure if Naruto just had the whole kyuubi then he would be even with all that power Sasuke has still. Having the whole Kyuubi could entitle him to gaining more chakra natures and obviously double his current nine tailed power
Yin can be defined as moon, water, earth, and Yang can be defined as fire and sun in chinese mythology. Totally hypothetical and this is just a side point, but if that was the case Naruto could have wind, earth, fire, water, and maybe even wood style if this was real in the Naruto realm. Naruto's Yang Chakra Mode gives life to wood style, there must be some converse relationship with the Yin half and wood style, And when the two come together it could give Naruto wood style. All that alone would probably make the ratio in difference in Naruto and Sasuke's power to 51:49 instead of the Juubi Revival Arc scaling of 6:4. I'm going to get to my point in a second though.
Now I have mentioned above Madara will be fighting everyone in the alliance, all this will be going on while Naruto, Sakura, and Obito are in the other dimension. I can't really say what I think will happen to Obito, but I hold strong to the claim that Madara will get both eyes back. That would mean Obito would have to come out at some point whether it was with Naruto and Sakura or not. Maybe BZ will take control again and then rewarp him and Obito out of the dimension and that will cause panic to many of us, and the narutoverse because Obito is the only one who can really get Naruto and Sakura out.
But while all the fighting is going on, it is clear to all that Naruto is going to meet an elderly Sage of the Six Paths and a deep conversation and of course a shitload of flashbacks will occur. Flashbacks we all obviously will want of course. This will probably last about 10 chapters at the most as we do need to cover a lot of info/there is a lot of info that can be told by the sage pertaining to his life (Juubi fight, birth, childhood, sons, mother relationship, how they died, how just everything went down)
Once these flashbacks end, Naruto will tell the sage more of what is going on if the sage already does not know what is going on outside, Since the sage is elderly he will not be able to give Naruto a shitload of strength to lend, but he will be able to lend naruto the max strength he can which will just happen to be enough to be equal or a little bit stronger than the state madara will be in (he will get powered up due to having both eyes). Naruto in Rikudo form will be so strong that he will be able to get out of the Kamui dimension with Sakura without the use of Kamui. As the sage probably could use all the Uchiha jutsu. Naruto will be the last one to arrive to the scene when maybe all hope is lost and Madara is about to give the final blow, we will get a panel of everyone looking in shock as Naruto emerges from the dimension in a completely new get up and God mode. Then Naruto will have defeated him and will pull the bijuus out of Madara once more. Once defeated and lying on the ground Madara will be sealed into the ninja tools. This way Madara will not be killed and then the theme of violence is not the answer will be continued and succeeded into the ninja world.
Once the fight is over, Naruto and Rikudo will part and Rikudo's chakra will disappear, reverting Naruto back to his original form and the power Rikudo lends will also disappear. If Naruto were to keep this power he would be too OP for Sasuke. As they both must be equals in their fight with Naruto being a little bit more stronger. Naruto's power up will be temporary for that reason and that is why I can't imagine him getting some serious Juubi power up, but hey it IS totally possible and I would be okay with either scenario. Maybe he will hold onto a little bit of the power elderly rikudo lends him, who knows. Then when the battle is over were gonna get an aftermath chapter and everyone will cheer and the war will be over and we'll get like a laughing and exhausted scene of maybe the whole alliance or Naruto and Sasuke similar to Vegeta and Goku after beating Buu. Nine Tails Jin is unique to Naruto I don't think he will become a different host or have different powers.
These are thoughts that have been in my head for years to this summer to the now. I mean I just have been too lazy to make a post like this. I feel like there are details I am forgetting. But I took a while to make this please read and tell me your thoughts. This is the first time I ever figured out how to put spoiler tags lol. Enjoy!!
PS: I dont know where the Sasuke and Izuna thing will come in, honestly I dont think it will go anywhere but we will see. I feel like in the beginning of this arc kishi backed himself in a corner and didnt know what to do and was winging a lot of this. Inevitably his route of defeating Madara was going to be through Rikudo's power seeping through Naruto IMO. The way this arc started was shitty IMO, I feel like Kishi needs extra things to drag it out a little bit, like a fight w Oro perhaps, Sasuke helping the alliance, everyone vs madara, long rikudo flashbacks, and a final battle against rikudo naruto and madara. I would really just prefer the fodder shinobi not to be there during the final fight I'd rather have it be a set group of people but I'm just talking realistic. They will probably just get rocked.
EDIT: PPS: I have also predicted Temari or Kankuro, and Kiba are also candidates who can die. As then at that point each team will have experienced pain and a loss in the series. And well Temari and Kankuro havent been shown in how long? Perfect chance for Kishi to give them panel time and then die
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