[Discussion] My observation of Alt Right and Left

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I agree with the horseshoe theory, which basically states that the far far right and the far far left are two sides of the same coin.

 

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That has to be the stupidest post i have ever read on this site, congratulations, way to prostrate yourself.
Not sure how, but cool.
 

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The media is split between right-wing and left-wing, both having its own agenda and its brainwashed supporters.
 

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The media is split between right-wing and left-wing, both having its own agenda and its brainwashed supporters.

While that's true, I'd like to point out that there are statistics which show that there is a disparity between age groups and trust in media. The younger the age group, the less trust in the media there is.

The other part is that most young people lean left as opposed to older generations leaning toward the right.



 

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Not sure how, but cool.

Because It is the homosexuals, transsexuals, liberals and blm crying lmao. You demonstates how its true that todays democracy are becoming more totalitarian and controlling what people can and cant say.
 

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Because It is the homosexuals, transsexuals, liberals and blm crying lmao. You demonstates how its true that todays democracy are becoming more totalitarian and controlling what people can and cant say.

What is it that you can't say?
 

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The media is split between right-wing and left-wing, both having its own agenda and its brainwashed supporters.

Give me the source for this quote, please: "Let me control the media and I will turn any nation into a herd of pigs" It doesn't sound like Joseph Goebbels at all. He also never said "repeat a big lie and people will believe it" That's a distortion from an article from 1941:

“There is no point to debating Mr. Churchill about English ship losses or the damage caused by German air attacks. He follows the time-honored British policy of admitting only that which is impossible to deny, then cutting it in half, while at the same time doubling or tripling the enemy's losses. The balances the accounts. The astonishing thing is that Mr. Churchill, a genuine John Bull, holds to his lies, and in fact repeats them until he himself believes them. That is an old English trick. Mr. Churchill does not need to perfect it, as it is one of the familiar tactics of British politics, known to the entire world. They made good use of the trick during the World War, with the difference that world opinion believed it then, which cannot be said today. That is because at the end of the World War British plutocracy believed that Germany would never recover. In part from indifference, but also in part from boastfulness, they made the mistake of telling the world the tricks they had used to defeat the Reich. In the memoirs written by British statesmen, Mr. Churchill in particular, one could see that the London plutocrats had no problem lying to high heaven during the war. They were even proud of fooling Germany in so easy and clever a fashion. They revealed their methods. They are not believable any longer. We only need to refer to the World War and note that the same men are determining English news policy as did from 1914 to 1918, and everything becomes clear.
That is of course rather painful for those involved. One should not as a rule reveal one's secrets, since one does not know if and when one may need them again. The essential English leadership secret does not depend on particular intelligence. Rather, it depends on a remarkably stupid thick-headedness. The English follow the principle that when one lies, one should lie big, and stick to it. They keep up their lies, even at the risk of looking ridiculous.”

[Goebbels, Aus Churchills Lügenfabrik, Die Zeit ohne Beispiel, Zentralverlag der NSDAP 1941]
 

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And why do you want to say those words?

No one's stopping you from saying them.

Well actually in places like the uk and germany, You can't (Hate Speech laws). And considering contemporary society you really cant say anything 'controversial' without being labelled racist, sexist, transphobic ect. Which are all tools for shutting down free speech.
 

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Well actually in places like the uk and germany, You can't (Hate Speech laws). And considering contemporary society you really cant say anything 'controversial' without being labelled racist, sexist, transphobic ect. Which are all tools for shutting down free speech.

Well I don't know how free speech laws are in the U.K. but being labelled as a racist is a consequence of racist rhetoric.

Free speech goes hand in hand with criticism. So if you're complaining about people criticizing what you say, then you are also criticizing free speech and also fall under the category of a SJW. Just saying.

Free speech doesn't entail you being able to say anything without people having a problem with what you say. Free speech only means that you are able to express your opinion without governmental interference. Everything else is free game.
 
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Because It is the homosexuals, transsexuals, liberals and blm crying lmao. You demonstates how its true that todays democracy are becoming more totalitarian and controlling what people can and cant say.

How are you chalking this up to the government level? This is entirely social. The government isn't telling people what they can and can't say. It's the media saying, "oh he said this word, how rude!"

As for they people you said are crying, they're really not. They're complaining about not being seen as equals in the US(Not sure why you included liberals in there, but not them). How is it wrong to complain about not being equal in the land of the free? The only people mad at them are the ones who are legit whining about trans people using a bathroom or homosexuals getting married. Like bruh, if the shit doesn't even remotely affect you how are you so mad? Keep it moving.

"Hate speech", all the phobias, trigger words ect.


You're like retarded. You're mad because there are consequences for using hate speech. Think about that for a second bruh bruh.
 

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How are you chalking this up to the government level? This is entirely social. The government isn't telling people what they can and can't say. It's the media saying, "oh he said this word, how rude!"

As for they people you said are crying, they're really not. They're complaining about not being seen as equals in the US(Not sure why you included liberals in there, but not them). How is it wrong to complain about not being equal in the land of the free? The only people mad at them are the ones who are legit whining about trans people using a bathroom or homosexuals getting married. Like bruh, if the shit doesn't even remotely affect you how are you so mad? Keep it moving.




You're like retarded. You're mad because there are consequences for using hate speech. Think about that for a second bruh bruh.

SO they are the ones crying? Exactly my point, btw they already are equal they are demanding special rights. I included liberals in there because they cried for the us presidency and they are the ones helping push all this degeneracy. People dont like it because it shouldnt be normalized and the more it is the more us culture will degrade, and there are links between your environment and if you turn out homosexual. So you are saying "wahh wahh he said something that hurt my feelings, even though its true i dont want him to say it waah waah". Truly pathetic lol.
 

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SO they are the ones crying? Exactly my point, btw they already are equal they are demanding special rights. I included liberals in there because they cried for the us presidency and they are the ones helping push all this degeneracy. People dont like it because it shouldnt be normalized and the more it is the more us culture will degrade, and there are links between your environment and if you turn out homosexual. So you are saying "wahh wahh he said something that hurt my feelings, even though its true i dont want him to say it waah waah". Truly pathetic lol.

But you were saying just that a moment ago about people labeling you as a racist/sexist....
 

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But you were saying just that a moment ago about people labeling you as a racist/sexist....

Its nothing about the label, its the fact that when you are labelled it you immediately go into defense mode and stop your initial point of conversation. You are forced to play by your oppositions plan, and you are ostracized.
 

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SO they are the ones crying? Exactly my point, btw they already are equal they are demanding special rights. I included liberals in there because they cried for the us presidency and they are the ones helping push all this degeneracy. People dont like it because it shouldnt be normalized and the more it is the more us culture will degrade, and there are links between your environment and if you turn out homosexual. So you are saying "wahh wahh he said something that hurt my feelings, even though its true i dont want him to say it waah waah". Truly pathetic lol.

What special rights my guy? How are bathrooms special rights? Have you ever worked a day in your life? There are so many businesses/companies that have bathrooms for both genders to use. Not only that but most, if not all, bathrooms have stalls in them. So why are you so shook? How would you even know(better question; why would you even care?) if a trans person was using the bathroom?

How is marriage a special right? How is wanting to be seen as equal a special right? Those are the same rights everyone should be allowed.

Also please define, 'US culture'. The last I checked, we are the land of the free. Or is that only for straight white people?
 

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What special rights my guy? How are bathrooms special rights? Have you ever worked a day in your life? There are so many businesses/companies that have bathrooms for both genders to use. Not only that but most, if not all, bathrooms have stalls in them. So why are you so shook?

How is marriage a special right? How is wanting to be seen as equal a special right? Those are the same rights everyone should be allowed.

Also please define, 'US culture'. The last I checked, we are the land of the free. Or is that only for straight white people?

The right to marry someone of your same gender is a special right, you are treating them as entirely different species, they are already equal since they can marry someone of the opposite gender. US culture is white culture, it has been since its foundation.
 

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The right to marry someone of your same gender is a special right, you are treating them as entirely different species, they are already equal since they can marry someone of the opposite gender. US culture is white culture, it has been since its foundation.
How is it a special right? You can marry anyone you want lmao. You're just mad they have a larger pool to choose from.

As far as US culture being white culture. How sway? What is white culture? You mean the Irish? Germans? British? Scottish? French? What are you talking about bro... This country was built upon the backs of immigrants. Not 'white culture'.
 

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The right to marry someone of your same gender is a special right, you are treating them as entirely different species, they are already equal since they can marry someone of the opposite gender. US culture is white culture, it has been since its foundation.

But you're admitting that white culture gets special treatment here. Also, what about the slaves that were brought over at the foundation of the U.S. that helped build it?

How is the right to marry a special right? Marriage isn't strictly religious. Marriage comes with governmental benefits, so saying that only a certain group can get married is treating that group with exclusive rights.
 

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How is it a special right? You can marry anyone you want lmao. You're just mad they have a larger pool to choose from.

As far as US culture being white culture. How sway? What is white culture? You mean the Irish? Germans? British? Scottish? French? What are you talking about bro... This country was built upon the backs of immigrants. Not 'white culture'.
Well yeah objectively it is a special right. Usa was founded as a white ethnostate and even if it was "built upon the backs of immigrants" thats like saying Egypt had a Jewish culture since they enslaved Jews. White culture is western culture.
 
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