[Discussion] My observation of Alt Right and Left

[Sakura Michiko]

Now I see myself as a person towards the alt left side( for reasons I'm not going to get into now because it's too much to put on this post) and I don't think I have alt right view points but I've been noticing that some of alt right and alt left seems to sound the same. Like I see a lot of extremist and hypocrites from both sides who fail to form logical arguments and points. Like with alt right I'll see someone complaining about how alt left is scared and cowards but then turn around and say they are afraid to speak their minds because alt right is censoring them. I also see a lot of these folks just saying stuff off the top of their heads without backing themselves with any type of facts or credible research.

Alt Left is very similar. I'll see folks from alt left literally getting mad because you checked them with dictionary definitions. I'll hear them say "that's not true and I don't believe those definitions because the oppressors made them" but if they argument is in their favor they will selectively use facts. I actually got into it with a few popular "activist" for either not forming a logical point or failing to correct themselves and I even got blocked by one because she wanted me to agree with her broken point. I even got blocked by a lot of old "friends" who saw me as a token black woman and were upset that I didn't agree with their racist logic.

I also despise the idea of "trigger warnings". I just find that it is absolutely ridiculous because outside of the internet and in life you aren't going to be able to "trigger warning" things. Some of these people are just fake activist too. I'll talk to some of them who are so say self proclaimed activist about racism and the problem with racism for example and they'll be like "add tw because if you don't you are problematic.I can't deal with this it's triggering". I notice both alt right and left tend to feel threatened if you are calling out their bs and actually using a credible point/facts to back yourself than the mob of hive minds come for you if you disagree and try to rip you a part. Have anyone else also notice any of this?

Also I should note that I am not saying every single person in alt right and left are like this. I just met a majority from both who are like this in my experience.

 

[Sagebee]

My views on the extreme right and left is that it seems as the days pass people are becoming more polarizing, an aspect is people aren't having real conversations and trying to understand the other side and secondly people can't disagree in a civil way.

And most people's political alignment is usually rooted in some tribalism and not based on something they thoroughly thought about.

Me personally I don't associate myself with right and left both there's something I agree with and other things both sides would vehemently disagree with me about the issue is when people aren't willing to have the conversation with sincere intent to understand and both sides are guilty of this.

 

[Pumpkin Ninja]

Yes, people who focus on politics are generally stupid because they become fearful and think they are smarter for their shitty hobby. These two groups are the same. There's been a study that people who do 'become dumber' so to speak and ruder as well.

 

[SSStylish]

About the alt right, it really depends on what kind of people you talk about. Kekistan fegs and Richard Spencer are hated on /pol/.

In short, this is what the "actual" alt right (/pol/) is about:

- race realism (not necessarily racism)
- free speech with almost no to no restrictions
- pro capitalism, extremely anti communism
- traditional/christian values and therefore very much anti 70+ gender stuff
- a whole bunch of banter and irony

If you're at the bottom right of the political spectrum you're basically a /pol/tard

Edit: Btw I don't really know what the alt left is. Do you mean /leftypol/, antifa members, or guys like Sargon of Akkad?

 

[Multiply]

About the alt right, it really depends on what kind of people you talk about. Kekistan fegs and Richard Spencer are hated on /pol/.

In short, this is what the "actual" alt right (/pol/) is about:

- race realism (not necessarily racism)
- free speech with almost no to no restrictions
- pro capitalism, extremely anti communism
- traditional/christian values and therefore very much anti 70+ gender stuff
- a whole bunch of banter and irony

If you're at the bottom right of the political spectrum you're basically a /pol/tard

Edit: Btw I don't really know what the alt left is. Do you mean /leftypol/, antifa members, or guys like Sargon of Akkad?

Life is not the internet. There is human interaction outside of the internet.

Anyway, both sides are very bad for our country. The 'alt right' is all about no safe spaces and no cry but that's all they do. Like when they cried about CNN going after that kid for his meme. Like when they cry anytime someone mentions guns. Like how they cry about gay people or transgender people. They cry about everything.

As far as the alt-left they're just cry babies of society. They hang on every little word.

 

[Brady]

Life is not the internet. There is human interaction outside of the internet.

Anyway, both sides are very bad for our country. The 'alt right' is all about no safe spaces and no cry but that's all they do. Like when they cried about CNN going after that kid for his meme. Like when they cry anytime someone mentions guns. Like how they cry about gay people or transgender people. They cry about everything.

As far as the alt-left they're just cry babies of society. They hang on every little word.

Fighting against what you disagree with isn't crying, begging for it to be censored is another story.

 

[Brady]

About the alt right, it really depends on what kind of people you talk about. Kekistan fegs and Richard Spencer are hated on /pol/.

In short, this is what the "actual" alt right (/pol/) is about:

- race realism (not necessarily racism)
- free speech with almost no to no restrictions
- pro capitalism, extremely anti communism
- traditional/christian values and therefore very much anti 70+ gender stuff
- a whole bunch of banter and irony

If you're at the bottom right of the political spectrum you're basically a /pol/tard

Edit: Btw I don't really know what the alt left is. Do you mean /leftypol/, antifa members, or guys like Sargon of Akkad?

The alt-right seems pretty hardcore racist to me, just look at Lauren Southerns comment sections. It's a bunch of under-acheivers wanking off to the accomplishments of others.

The alt-right in the beginning had good intentions but now it's just a group based on circle jerking and self serving racial theories.

 

[Multiply]

Fighting against what you disagree with isn't crying, begging for it to be censored is another story.

If you're 'fighting against' multi-*** bathrooms, you're crying. If you are fighting against having to have a background check to purchase a gun, you're crying. If you're fighting against gay people being able to get married, you're crying. If you're fighting against black lives matter as a movement, you're crying. If we could collect the tears of the alt-right and alt-left we could fill multiple Olympic sized pools.

 

[Brady]

If you're 'fighting against' multi-*** bathrooms, you're crying. If you are fighting against having to have a background check to purchase a gun, you're crying. If you're fighting against gay people being able to get married, you're crying. If you're fighting against black lives matter as a movement, you're crying. If we could collect the tears of the alt-right and alt-left we could fill multiple Olympic sized pools.

All I learned from this little post is that when someone does something you disagree with, lie down and take it or else you're crying. Speaking out against it is just whining right? So Martin Luther King was a crybaby.

 

[SSStylish]

The alt-right seems pretty hardcore racist to me, just look at Lauren Southerns comment sections. It's a bunch of under-acheivers wanking off to the accomplishments of others.

The alt-right in the beginning had good intentions but now it's just a group based on circle jerking and self serving racial theories.

A lot of it is just shitposting, some of it seems to be genuine though, you're right about that.

They are basically hardcore race realists most of the time though and judge a race (not the individual) by statistics etc. The whole "kill all people of x race" shit is mostly shitposting as I already said and I of course can't agree with that. (Im part slavic/european part ashkenazi)

A big problem of communication seems to be that a lot of people on the left think that you mean every single person of x race when you talk about the traits of said race. They feel really smart when they point out that they know people who don't fit the traits even though it shows how dumb they are for not understanding what an average is. As if they wouldn't see the differences themselves. The worst ones are the ones who only see the differences that put a race above others in every way.

 

[Multiply]

All I learned from this little post is that when someone does something you disagree with, lie down and take it or else you're crying. Speaking out against it is just whining right? So Martin Luther King was a crybaby.

No, when you disagree with something that has absolutely no effect on your life, you are crying for no reason.

-Complaining about a bathroom for both sexes: These are already a thing. People are only mad because of the transgender label.

-Complaining about a background check for guns: It just makes the process a little bit longer and safer before you can get your hands on an AR that can mow down tens of people at a time. Sorry for the inconvenience though, right?

-Complaining about gay people getting married: How does their marriage effect anyone besides themselves? Let them live their lives how they want to and you live yours(Not you, but you get the point).

-Complaining about the black lives matter movement: The movement is just about black lives mattering... Why would you disagree with that unless you are racist? Sure you can disagree with the people within the movement, but against the movement itself is pointless. It's a statement.

 

[demon of the leaf]

Heres my honest view and i will sum it up in a small sentence


They are both are the *******s that are the problem

 

[Ambivalence]

No, when you disagree with something that has absolutely no effect on your life, you are crying for no reason.

Dumbest logic I've read in a while on this section. So because one disagrees with something that objectively lowers society's already dwindling morality or he/she happens to care about more than just their own existence and factors affecting it (go figure, people like that exist), they're ''crying for no reason'' and shouldn't even bother speaking out?

Don't think so.

 

[Multiply]

Dumbest logic I've read in a while on this section. So because one disagrees with something that objectively lowers society's already dwindling morality or he/she happens to care about more than just their own existence and factors affecting it (go figure, people like that exist), they're ''crying for no reason'' and shouldn't even bother speaking out?

Don't think so.

What are you even saying? Give me an example of something like that. I'm pretty sure you misunderstood or misinterpreted what I said homeboy.

Edit: Maybe you're thinking of something like abortion? Some people saying it shouldn't be allowed because it's murder/wrong? Am I right?

 

[Wolves]

Dumbest logic I've read in a while on this section. So because one disagrees with something that objectively lowers society's already dwindling morality or he/she happens to care about more than just their own existence and factors affecting it (go figure, people like that exist), they're ''crying for no reason'' and shouldn't even bother speaking out?

Don't think so.

lmfao

 

[Clown World]

About the alt right, it really depends on what kind of people you talk about. Kekistan fegs and Richard Spencer are hated on /pol/.

In short, this is what the "actual" alt right (/pol/) is about:

- race realism (not necessarily racism)
- free speech with almost no to no restrictions
- pro capitalism, extremely anti communism
- traditional/christian values and therefore very much anti 70+ gender stuff
- a whole bunch of banter and irony

If you're at the bottom right of the political spectrum you're basically a /pol/tard

Edit: Btw I don't really know what the alt left is. Do you mean /leftypol/, antifa members, or guys like Sargon of Akkad?

Not really "pro capitalism" per say, more about the realization its necessary but it should be restricted.

 

[Clown World]

If you're 'fighting against' multi-*** bathrooms, you're crying. If you are fighting against having to have a background check to purchase a gun, you're crying. If you're fighting against gay people being able to get married, you're crying. If you're fighting against black lives matter as a movement, you're crying. If we could collect the tears of the alt-right and alt-left we could fill multiple Olympic sized pools.

That has to be the stupidest post i have ever read on this site, congratulations, way to prostrate yourself.

 

[Lelouch Vii Britannia]

Both are dumb, be independent and see both sides of the arguments, tho avoid the extreme right or left websites such as brietbart

 

[JStar King]

Both can eat a d*ck, especially the Alt Right.

 

[kimb]

I really want the systems of government and politics to have its power lessened to where the general populus doesnt have to concern itself with it. (IMO) I feel like the polarization of politics and the emergence of radical fringe ideologies is a result of the government emassing too much power and authority over its citizens. People have become conscious how the government is able to dictate every tiny facet of their lives, so they seek to gain control over the authority to dictate every facet of everyone elses lives in order to mold society to the way they see fit. This is literally what the radical leftists are pushing for in terms of legislation and regulations, and that's how the alt-right intends to bring upon their utopia.

If we reduce the power of the central government, it would reduce the amount of people attempting to grab control of power through the government. In terms of the U.S., I believe shifting authority over to individual states would help regulate the issue.