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With the loss of Kurama in the most recent chapter, and the loss of Sasuke's rinnegan in chapters prior, people have been speculating about how powerful Naruto and Sasuke are now. This has been more prominent when it comes to Naruto. People have been debating about whether or not Naruto still has the chakaras of the 8 other bijuus, as well as the ability to use six paths sage mode (without the chakara cloak).
The following image depicts the six paths sage mode that people are debating about:
(Notice that it is the one without the chakara cloak and the truth seeking balls)
Now, the reason why some people still believe that Naruto will retain access to the above form is because the 4th databook describes six paths sage mode as being a gift from Hagoromo. The databook makes it sound like six paths sage mode is not a form that you can obtain on your own no matter how much you train and no matter what kind of DNA or chakaras you gather inside of you. It makes it sound like this state solely comes as a gift from Hagoromo and Hagoromo alone.
Therefore, so long as Naruto still has the chakara given to him by Hagoromo, he should still possess the above form of six paths sage mode even if he no longer possesses the chakara of all 9 bijuus.
That is the logic as to why some people believe that the current Naruto may still possess six paths sage mode.
Now, here is where my opinion is a bit controversial:
I disagree with the data book! There is no way that six paths sage mode is purely a gift from Hagoromo! I assert to you today that there is a formula for awakening six paths sage mode. The components that you need to obtain six paths sage mode are:
1. six paths chakara
2. the chakara of all 9 bijuus
3. senjutsu
Now, I know that some of you author worshippers out there are ready to attack me now, but here me out.
To begin with, you should notice that while in six paths sage mode, Naruto has the "plus sign (+)" in his eyes. Now, we all know that whenever Naruto has the plus sign in his eyes, he is simultaneously using both Kurama's chakara and senjutsu. Naruto's brand of senjutsu is toad senjutsu, and the horizontal part of the plus sign is the indicator of the presence of toad based senjutsu. The vertical part of the plus sign indicates the usage of Kurama's chakara.
Now please tell me this:
If six paths sage mode did not require the bijuu chakaras, then why would evidence of the use of Kurama's chakara be present even in the non-cloaked version of six paths sage mode? Furthermore, how exactly would Hagoromo give Naruto some toad senjutsu? Even if he gave Naruto some senjutsu chakara, why would it be specifically toad senjutsu? I mean, Hagoromo could have in theory given Hashirama a power up if he wanted to, but Hashirama's senjutsu wasn't toad senjutsu. If Hashirama had met Hagoromo and obtained the same power up, would Hashirama's eyes reflect toad senjutsu all of a sudden? I doubt it.
Considering that to begin with, senjutsu is the phenomenon that happens when a shinobi balances natural energy with their own chakara, it is much more likely that Naruto's eyes in RSM reflected toad senjutsu because he used his own toad based method to balance natural energy with the six paths chakara and the bijuu chakara that he had received.
What's more, if six paths sage mode is simply a chakara gift from Hagoromo, then why did Sasuke not gain six paths sage mode? Sasuke received the same chakara as Naruto, did he not? Even if you say that Naruto got the yang chakara and that Sasuke got the yin chakara, it would make no sense for just the yang chakara to contain natural energy.
Nature energy is neither yin nor yang. As stated before, senjutsu is the balance of nature energy with your own chakara, and one's own chakara is composed of both yin and yang. In other words, to use any type of senjutsu, you have to balance natural energy with both your yin and yang chakara. Therefore, it makes no sense for only Hagoromo's yang chakara to contain natural energy in it and not his yin chakara.
Finally, I will tell you specifically why I believe that the formula for six paths sage mode is:
1. six paths chakara
2. the chakara of all 9 bijuus
3. senjutsu
For this, it would be better to look at the chakara cloak version of six paths sage mode:
Now, what are some key features of this mode? Answer: Naruto has truth seeking balls and his back has the symbol of the rinnegan with 3 rows of 3 tomoe per row underneath the rinnegan. It is just like with a juubi jinchuuriki. Naruto is basically a pseudo juubi jinchuuriki in this mode.
Now, what chakaras does a juubi jinchuuriki possess? In fact, what is the composition of the juubi itself?
Answer: The juubi's chakara is composed of the chakara of all 9 bijuus, six paths chakara, and senjutsu!
How do I know that the juubi possesses the chakara of all 9 bijuus? Well... do I even have to answer that? The juubi is literally the amalgamation of all bijuus.
How do I know that the juubi contains senjutsu? Well, Kurama stated it and during the fight with juubi jinchuuriki Obito, it was established that senjutsu was his weakness since the juubi is comprised of natural energy.
Finally, how do we know that the juubi possesses six paths chakara. Well, juubi jinchuurikis automatically gain access to six paths chakara.
It would make perfect sense for a power that resembles that of the juubi jinchuuriki to require the components that compose the juubi's chakara.
By the way, a lot of people believe that the cloaked RSM mode is KCM stacked on top of the non-cloaked RSM. However, I believe that it is not just KCM, but rather it is the chakara of all 9 bijuus stacked on top of the non-cloaked RSM. The reason why Kurama's eyes still show in Naruto's eyes is because Kurama was the bijuu that was most prevalent in Naruto.
To sum up what I have been insinuating...
Naruto's six paths sage mode was not just a gift from Hagoromo. All Hagoromo gave Naruto was the six paths chakara and the yang seal. The six paths chakara that Naruto received was simply used in conjunction with the 9 bijuus' chakaras that Naruto had and Naruto's own senjutsu to create six paths sage mode.
It is the same with Sasuke's rinnegan. Some people believe that Hagoromo gave Sasuke the rinnegan.
No! That is false!
Hagoromo did not give Sasuke the rinnegan. Hagoromo gave Sasuke six paths chakara and the yin seal. That's all. Sasuke simply awakened the rinnegan because of that six paths chakara. The reason why Sasuke awakened a tomoe rinnegan instead of a standard dual rinnegan is because the yin seal gave Sasuke an imbalance of yin and yang. Sasuke's yin was greater than his yang, so that resulted in a tomoe rinnegan.
I don't care how strong Hagoromo is. He can't give Naruto and Sasuke something that he doesn't have.
That said, Hagoromo did possess both six paths senjutsu and the rinnegan. However, Hagoromo did not possess these things in the same form that Naruto/Sasuke awakened those powers.
Hagoromo did not possess a tomoe rinnegan. Hagoromo did not possess six paths sage mode in the same form that Naruto possessed it.
Conclusion: Hagoromo did not give Naruto and Sasuke RSM and rinnegan. He gave them six paths chakara and seals. Naruto and Sasuke simply awakened RSM and rinnegan after receiving six paths chakara and mixing it with things that they already had (the chakara of all 9 bijuus in Naruto's case, and the sharingan in Sasuke's case).
I believe that the databook's statement about RSM being a gift from Hagoromo just references the fact that Naruto gained this mode after receiving chakara from Hagoromo. The thought that Hagoromo gave Naruto the mode itself just makes no sense and it wanks Hagoromo too much.
Of course, when it comes to Naruto's current power after losing Kurama, this does unfortunately mean that he most likely does not have six paths sage mode any more. However, he may still have six paths chakara and chakara of the other 8 bijuus.
Anyway, I hope you enjoyed this read and can understand where I am coming from.
The following image depicts the six paths sage mode that people are debating about:
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(Notice that it is the one without the chakara cloak and the truth seeking balls)
Now, the reason why some people still believe that Naruto will retain access to the above form is because the 4th databook describes six paths sage mode as being a gift from Hagoromo. The databook makes it sound like six paths sage mode is not a form that you can obtain on your own no matter how much you train and no matter what kind of DNA or chakaras you gather inside of you. It makes it sound like this state solely comes as a gift from Hagoromo and Hagoromo alone.
Therefore, so long as Naruto still has the chakara given to him by Hagoromo, he should still possess the above form of six paths sage mode even if he no longer possesses the chakara of all 9 bijuus.
That is the logic as to why some people believe that the current Naruto may still possess six paths sage mode.
Now, here is where my opinion is a bit controversial:
I disagree with the data book! There is no way that six paths sage mode is purely a gift from Hagoromo! I assert to you today that there is a formula for awakening six paths sage mode. The components that you need to obtain six paths sage mode are:
1. six paths chakara
2. the chakara of all 9 bijuus
3. senjutsu
Now, I know that some of you author worshippers out there are ready to attack me now, but here me out.
To begin with, you should notice that while in six paths sage mode, Naruto has the "plus sign (+)" in his eyes. Now, we all know that whenever Naruto has the plus sign in his eyes, he is simultaneously using both Kurama's chakara and senjutsu. Naruto's brand of senjutsu is toad senjutsu, and the horizontal part of the plus sign is the indicator of the presence of toad based senjutsu. The vertical part of the plus sign indicates the usage of Kurama's chakara.
Now please tell me this:
If six paths sage mode did not require the bijuu chakaras, then why would evidence of the use of Kurama's chakara be present even in the non-cloaked version of six paths sage mode? Furthermore, how exactly would Hagoromo give Naruto some toad senjutsu? Even if he gave Naruto some senjutsu chakara, why would it be specifically toad senjutsu? I mean, Hagoromo could have in theory given Hashirama a power up if he wanted to, but Hashirama's senjutsu wasn't toad senjutsu. If Hashirama had met Hagoromo and obtained the same power up, would Hashirama's eyes reflect toad senjutsu all of a sudden? I doubt it.
Considering that to begin with, senjutsu is the phenomenon that happens when a shinobi balances natural energy with their own chakara, it is much more likely that Naruto's eyes in RSM reflected toad senjutsu because he used his own toad based method to balance natural energy with the six paths chakara and the bijuu chakara that he had received.
What's more, if six paths sage mode is simply a chakara gift from Hagoromo, then why did Sasuke not gain six paths sage mode? Sasuke received the same chakara as Naruto, did he not? Even if you say that Naruto got the yang chakara and that Sasuke got the yin chakara, it would make no sense for just the yang chakara to contain natural energy.
Nature energy is neither yin nor yang. As stated before, senjutsu is the balance of nature energy with your own chakara, and one's own chakara is composed of both yin and yang. In other words, to use any type of senjutsu, you have to balance natural energy with both your yin and yang chakara. Therefore, it makes no sense for only Hagoromo's yang chakara to contain natural energy in it and not his yin chakara.
Finally, I will tell you specifically why I believe that the formula for six paths sage mode is:
1. six paths chakara
2. the chakara of all 9 bijuus
3. senjutsu
For this, it would be better to look at the chakara cloak version of six paths sage mode:
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Now, what are some key features of this mode? Answer: Naruto has truth seeking balls and his back has the symbol of the rinnegan with 3 rows of 3 tomoe per row underneath the rinnegan. It is just like with a juubi jinchuuriki. Naruto is basically a pseudo juubi jinchuuriki in this mode.
Now, what chakaras does a juubi jinchuuriki possess? In fact, what is the composition of the juubi itself?
Answer: The juubi's chakara is composed of the chakara of all 9 bijuus, six paths chakara, and senjutsu!
How do I know that the juubi possesses the chakara of all 9 bijuus? Well... do I even have to answer that? The juubi is literally the amalgamation of all bijuus.
How do I know that the juubi contains senjutsu? Well, Kurama stated it and during the fight with juubi jinchuuriki Obito, it was established that senjutsu was his weakness since the juubi is comprised of natural energy.
Finally, how do we know that the juubi possesses six paths chakara. Well, juubi jinchuurikis automatically gain access to six paths chakara.
It would make perfect sense for a power that resembles that of the juubi jinchuuriki to require the components that compose the juubi's chakara.
By the way, a lot of people believe that the cloaked RSM mode is KCM stacked on top of the non-cloaked RSM. However, I believe that it is not just KCM, but rather it is the chakara of all 9 bijuus stacked on top of the non-cloaked RSM. The reason why Kurama's eyes still show in Naruto's eyes is because Kurama was the bijuu that was most prevalent in Naruto.
To sum up what I have been insinuating...
Naruto's six paths sage mode was not just a gift from Hagoromo. All Hagoromo gave Naruto was the six paths chakara and the yang seal. The six paths chakara that Naruto received was simply used in conjunction with the 9 bijuus' chakaras that Naruto had and Naruto's own senjutsu to create six paths sage mode.
It is the same with Sasuke's rinnegan. Some people believe that Hagoromo gave Sasuke the rinnegan.
No! That is false!
Hagoromo did not give Sasuke the rinnegan. Hagoromo gave Sasuke six paths chakara and the yin seal. That's all. Sasuke simply awakened the rinnegan because of that six paths chakara. The reason why Sasuke awakened a tomoe rinnegan instead of a standard dual rinnegan is because the yin seal gave Sasuke an imbalance of yin and yang. Sasuke's yin was greater than his yang, so that resulted in a tomoe rinnegan.
I don't care how strong Hagoromo is. He can't give Naruto and Sasuke something that he doesn't have.
That said, Hagoromo did possess both six paths senjutsu and the rinnegan. However, Hagoromo did not possess these things in the same form that Naruto/Sasuke awakened those powers.
Hagoromo did not possess a tomoe rinnegan. Hagoromo did not possess six paths sage mode in the same form that Naruto possessed it.
Conclusion: Hagoromo did not give Naruto and Sasuke RSM and rinnegan. He gave them six paths chakara and seals. Naruto and Sasuke simply awakened RSM and rinnegan after receiving six paths chakara and mixing it with things that they already had (the chakara of all 9 bijuus in Naruto's case, and the sharingan in Sasuke's case).
I believe that the databook's statement about RSM being a gift from Hagoromo just references the fact that Naruto gained this mode after receiving chakara from Hagoromo. The thought that Hagoromo gave Naruto the mode itself just makes no sense and it wanks Hagoromo too much.
Of course, when it comes to Naruto's current power after losing Kurama, this does unfortunately mean that he most likely does not have six paths sage mode any more. However, he may still have six paths chakara and chakara of the other 8 bijuus.
Anyway, I hope you enjoyed this read and can understand where I am coming from.