[VS] Muu vs Itachi

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Info: Manga
Location: Desert
Intent: To kill
Restrictions: Izanami because we don't know if it will work on Muu.

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Itachi takes this. I've even seen a few arguments for him solo'ing Muu and 2nd Mizukage.

Muu's invisibility can't work if he's prepping Jinton and Itachi's Sharingan can see minute changes in the enviorment like footsteps and such. Not that Sharingan is needed for that. Ninja's are trained to see that stuff, Even Oto's Chunin & Jonins were able too.
 

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The yata mirror is said to be able to deflect all ninjutsu, this may include Jinton, and I doubt Muu has a defense against Tsukiyomi (though he might since he has fought madara before) and his speed isn't enough to dodge Amaterasu.

But any one of these jutsu causes strain to itachi so Imma say Itachi mid-high difficulty
 

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I am surprised that no one chose Muu.
 

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Muuhig diff. He is a powerfil sensor as he dodged km naruto without even looking. He can bring out parts of his body too,so he can just fly out of itachi's sight and prep a jinton. Yata deflects elemental attacks not kG
 

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Itachi has this.

Muu can stay invisible all that he wants, but when he comes out to do Jinton Itachi puts up Susanoo and then takes him out with Amaterasu.
 

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Itachi wins. The moment Mu starts prepping for Jinton he gets Amaterasu to the face as he needs to reveal himself to do so.
 

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The fact that he has to reveal himself to use Jinton makes Itachi's victory more absolute.Itachi wins by camping his V1 Susano'o and also shouldn't a sharingan user be able to see Muu despite him being invisible?
 

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What if he decides to prep jinton where itachi cant see him?,like behind him?,and he is a sensor,he will know ama is coming anywau
 

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What if he decides to prep jinton where itachi cant see him?,like behind him?,and he is a sensor,he will know ama is coming anywau

In a desert? And don't you think Itachi would be constantly looking around when he sees him go invisible? The moment he starts prepping Jinton, Itachi catches sight of him and its over.

So what if he knows its coming, he doesn't have anything to block it nor does he have the reactions to evade it. And with manga knowledge, he'll only know that he is focusing chakra in his eye, not that he's using Amaterasu.
 

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Itachi doesn't start fights with his susano on. Muu simply goes invisible, flies behind Itachi and slices his throat.
 

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Itachi doesn't start fights with his susano on. Muu simply goes invisible, flies behind Itachi and slices his throat.

So, Mu goes invisible and Itachi decides to leave himself exposed? lol, not happening. Ribcage Susanoo says hi.
 

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In a desert? And don't you think Itachi would be constantly looking around when he sees him go invisible? The moment he starts prepping Jinton, Itachi catches sight of him and its over.

So what if he knows its coming, he doesn't have anything to block it nor does he have the reactions to evade it. And with manga knowledge, he'll only know that he is focusing chakra in his eye, not that he's using Amaterasu.

will itachi keep looking 360 degrees every second?,also he can fly up in the air too,it's not just a ground battle,he is a sensor which means he can pinpoint itachi's location. Even if itachi looks around,he isnt going to look at the general location of muu when he brings out part(he can bring out only part of his body too) of his upper body to hit him. Also if muu senses the chakra build up he will know an attack is coming and simply vanish again,by that time itachi would have wasted his chakra and his eyes would be bleeding. Also OP didnt say itachi was healthy and thus this is manga itachi,which means he has like 3 or so ms jutsus to use before his eyes run out.
Like i said,manga knowledge gos both ways,itachi dosent know he flies either,wheras muu via his sensory abilties can tell itachi is of uchiha lineage(sensors can do that,and muu did something like that too IIRC) especially as he lived in the time of the uchiha and senju problems. Also manga intel means itachi will not go straight to ms,as it OOC for him to do so,wheras muu uses jinton frequently.

Also prepping jinton isnt long,for muu at least,note,here,he sees onoki already started prepping before him,yet; he prepped his own and fired it off around the same time as onoki did. When itachi prepped his ama,nagato was able to warn naruto,and a crow was able to fly out of naruto's mouth and get to itachi,which made him then fire the now prepped ama at nagato, lets say itachi turns around and sees him prepping jinton,he closes his eyes and it starts to bleed,donnt you think the jinton would be fired first?,it's not like itachi will already prep ama while loking for him,and if he stays in susanoo,then he isnt firing ama at the same time unless he turns it off too,due to his chakra reserves. All this is assuming itachi goes ms before muu fires a jinton
 

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Depends on the amount of knowledge Muu has against Sharingan users. He fought a EMS user on Madara's caliber and judging by Onoki's statement, he used Susanoo against them(not just the perfect one). I don't know however if he knows about amaterasu or other eye techniques. If he knows, Amaterasu would never work against a sensor on Muu's caliber. I thought latest chapter made it clear that sensors are capable to sense the location where the chakra is focused(Obito sensed Sasuke was focusing chakra on his right eye), so he could dodge or protect himself against it without problems. Jinton also make Susanoo useless. Yata's hype has yet to be proven because so far it lacks feats and it's not the first time we see retconned hype in this manga.

Furthermore, Yata only protect from one side. Jinton depending on the size could cover Itachi's entire Susanoo, so yata surely couldn't protect effectively against all that. Adding the fact Muu can turn invisible and not being sensed in this case(since he hide his chakra as well), it make surprised attacks easier. Infact, Muu can be a worse match-up for Itachi, but all that depend on his amount of knowledge on dojutsu techniques like i've said

If he has no knowledge on Amaterasu, even if he senses the chakra focus, not sure if he would know a instant technique would come out of the eye and it could be his downfall, but probably he would be more cautious judging by his character. Also depending on the range, Amaterasu may not even touch him instantly since amaterasu is more like a close range attack that travels, so in this case knowledge or not, Muu could notice it and dodge or protect himself in time. If Amaterasu touches him however, he would have to escape with his double, but in this case, his power will be split in half and he would have less chances to win in this case especially without his main attack(Jinton)
 

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Depends on the amount of knowledge Muu has against Sharingan users. He fought a EMS user on Madara's caliber and judging by Onoki's statement, he used Susanoo against them(not just the perfect one). I don't know however if he knows about amaterasu or other eye techniques. If he knows, Amaterasu would never work against a sensor on Muu's caliber. I thought latest chapter made it clear that sensors are capable to sense the location where the chakra is focused(Obito sensed Sasuke was focusing chakra on his right eye), so he could dodge or protect himself against it without problems. Jinton also make Susanoo useless. Yata's hype has yet to be proven because so far it lacks feats and it's not the first time we see retconned hype in this manga.

Furthermore, Yata only protect from one side. Jinton depending on the size could cover Itachi's entire Susanoo, so yata surely couldn't protect effectively against all that. Adding the fact Muu can turn invisible and not being sensed in this case(since he hide his chakra as well), it make surprised attacks easier. Infact, Muu can be a worse match-up for Itachi, but all that depend on his amount of knowledge on dojutsu techniques like i've said

If he has no knowledge on Amaterasu, even if he senses the chakra focus, not sure if he would know a instant technique would come out of the eye and it could be his downfall, but probably he would be more cautious judging by his character. Also depending on the range, Amaterasu may not even touch him instantly since amaterasu is more like a close range attack that travels, so in this case knowledge or not, Muu could notice it and dodge or protect himself in time. If Amaterasu touches him however, he would have to escape with his double, but in this case, his power will be split in half and he would have less chances to win in this case especially without his main attack(Jinton)
They can sense it coming, but they still have to be fast enough/have quick enough reactions to dodge or avoid it.
 

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will itachi keep looking 360 degrees every second?,also he can fly up in the air too,it's not just a ground battle,he is a sensor which means he can pinpoint itachi's location. Even if itachi looks around,he isnt going to look at the general location of muu when he brings out part(he can bring out only part of his body too) of his upper body to hit him. Also if muu senses the chakra build up he will know an attack is coming and simply vanish again,by that time itachi would have wasted his chakra and his eyes would be bleeding. Also OP didnt say itachi was healthy and thus this is manga itachi,which means he has like 3 or so ms jutsus to use before his eyes run out.
If he wants to live yes he will, being in the air doesn't change anything, not when this is a desert. There is nowhere for Mu to hide so its rather easy to see him.

Mu has to cancel his whole technique in order to use Jinton. His technique erases his chakra, he can't do other jutsu without revealing his chakra so he will have to completely reveal himself. Not to mention Sharingan sees and gives color to chakra, so spotting him is not difficult.

Even if Mu senses the build up and becomes invisible again, he wouldn't be able to evade it since he's too slow and he has nothing in his arsenal that can block LoS. He'd still get hit as Amaterasu would spawn where Itachi is looking, and that's where Mu is, whether he is visible or not.



Like i said,manga knowledge gos both ways,itachi dosent know he flies either,wheras muu via his sensory abilties can tell itachi is of uchiha lineage(sensors can do that,and muu did something like that too IIRC) especially as he lived in the time of the uchiha and senju problems. Also manga intel means itachi will not go straight to ms,as it OOC for him to do so,wheras muu uses jinton frequently.
If Mu goes invisible, clearly Itachi would put up a level 1 Susanoo to protect himself from any attack Mu might throw at him, as he won't be able to see or detect him.

Also prepping jinton isnt long,for muu at least,note,here,he sees onoki already started prepping before him,yet; he prepped his own and fired it off around the same time as onoki did. When itachi prepped his ama,nagato was able to warn naruto,and a crow was able to fly out of naruto's mouth and get to itachi,which made him then fire the now prepped ama at nagato, lets say itachi turns around and sees him prepping jinton,he closes his eyes and it starts to bleed,donnt you think the jinton would be fired first?,it's not like itachi will already prep ama while loking for him,and if he stays in susanoo,then he isnt firing ama at the same time unless he turns it off too,due to his chakra reserves. All this is assuming itachi goes ms before muu fires a jinton

And how do you know Onoki started prepping Jinton before him? He just sees Onoki up above.

Nagato was a sensor with knowledge on Amaterasu, and KA slowed Itachi down as it turned him from Kabuto's side to Naruto's side. That's not an accurate representation of Amaterasu's prep and fire speed.

He was able to do much more than a Ribcage Susanoo and Amaterasu in the manga. I fail to see why he can't do less.

He doesn't need to close his eyes in order to prep Amaterasu. He can do it without doing so as shown in the scan above, so I do think that Amaterasu would be fired before Jinton.
 

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If he wants to live yes he will, being in the air doesn't change anything, not when this is a desert. There is nowhere for Mu to hide so its rather easy to see him.

Muu puts himself in the direction of the sun.

If Itachi looks up he will be blinded by the sun, whereas Muu is looking down and will be fine.

Bam-wam, Muu wins, praise the Sun.

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Itachi wins. The moment Mu starts prepping for Jinton he gets Amaterasu to the face as he needs to reveal himself to do so.

Muu can form faster the handseals then Itachi use the amaterasu. His best shot is a genjutsu.
 

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mu have no chakra so genjutsu wont work on him, ability fly is best counter to sharingan + mu can turn invisible i was wondering can itachi see him?? sharingan can see chakra by its color yes but mu dont have chakra??

gotta say worst possible match for itachi
 

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mu have no chakra so genjutsu wont work on him, ability fly is best counter to sharingan + mu can turn invisible i was wondering can itachi see him?? sharingan can see chakra by its color yes but mu dont have chakra??

gotta say worst possible match for itachi

Probably I'm wrong, but I never read such a statement in the manga.
 
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