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Explain how Itachi avoids/defends against Jinton.

He can't but I just want to hear your excuse.

Hehehe you are funny.

Firstly it depends on the Jinton technique, the beams can be neutralized by Yatas mirror but the cube not, you are right.

But yet Itachi has more possibilities and is faster than Muu. Amaterasu is cast with a single glance and Itachis Genjutsus are used in the very beginning of the battle, can Muu avoid all of those techniques before using his own? Think about it. If you start a debate you have to look at both sites, maybe Itachi can't avoid all Jinton techniques but Muu can't also avoid all of Itachis techniques. And I think that I don't have to tell you that Itachi has more options and is faster by feats.

Just try to imagine a realistic fight, I mean the invisible Muu didn't one shot the Nidaime Mizukage with his Jinton, too :sy:.
 

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Hehehe you are funny.

Firstly it depends on the Jinton technique, the beams can be neutralized by Yatas mirror but the cube not, you are right.

But yet Itachi has more possibilities and is faster than Muu. Amaterasu is cast with a single glance and Itachis Genjutsus are used in the very beginning of the battle, can Muu avoid all of those techniques before using his own? Think about it. If you start a debate you have to look at both sites, maybe Itachi can't avoid all Jinton techniques but Muu can't also avoid all of Itachis techniques. And I think that I don't have to tell you that Itachi has more options and is faster by feats.

Just try to imagine a realistic fight, I mean the invisible Muu didn't one shot the Nidaime Mizukage with his Jinton, too :sy:.

Itachi doesn't have the stamina for such things. Jinton wins the match as soon as it starts.
 

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No he hides his presence and can therefore not be sensed, he is called Ninja without presence. But the Sharingan can actually see Chakra, whether the user is a sensor or not. And since the invisibility technique is also a Jutsu which is using Chakra, the Sharingan will see it of course. No one can hide his Chakra from a Doujutsu, you will always see the flow.

The Second Tsuchikage, Mū's mastery of this technique helped earn him the moniker "Non-Person" (無人, Mujin), seemingly having neither form nor chakra while the technique was active. Thus, he could not be sensed through traditional means.

its in the narutopedia. if you are still not satisfied then i will find a manga page for proof.
 

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Itachi would just pretend to get caught in Mu's dust release by casting Mu in a Tsukuyomi. Then when he's off guard Itachi gets out the Totsuka blade and seals him. Mu can't hide from Itachi with invisibility because the Sharingan should be able to see him, plus Amaterasu can hit a flying opponent. You'd have to be like Raikage speed to dodge it.
 

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The Second Tsuchikage, Mū's mastery of this technique helped earn him the moniker "Non-Person" (無人, Mujin), seemingly having neither form nor chakra while the technique was active. Thus, he could not be sensed through traditional means.

its in the narutopedia. if you are still not satisfied then i will find a manga page for proof.

I don't normally agree with you but +reps.
 

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Itachi doesn't have the stamina for such things. Jinton wins the match as soon as it starts.

Ah and now you use Itachis stamina as the last straw you are clinging on :rolleyes:. If a sick Itachi could use several Genjutsus, Tsukuyomi, Amaterasu for 4 times and Susanoo for about 5-10 minutes, be aware that Itachi won't run out of Chakra in a battle where he is splitting up his powers wise, unlike in his battle with Sasuke where he spammed his techniques purposely.

You obviously try to downplay Itachi, but your arguments aren't well anyway.
 

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Ah and now you use Itachis stamina as the last straw you are clinging on :rolleyes:. If a sick Itachi could use several Genjutsus, Tsukuyomi, Amaterasu for 4 times and Susanoo for about 5-10 minutes, be aware that Itachi won't run out of Chakra in a battle where he is splitting up his powers wise, unlike in his battle with Sasuke where he spammed his techniques purposely.

You obviously try to downplay Itachi, but your arguments aren't well anyway.

He had no presence, no chakra, sharingan isn't seeing him, Jinton gg.
 

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He had no presence, no chakra, sharingan isn't seeing him, Jinton gg.

Do you know what is meant with 'no' Chakra? Do you actually say that Muu doesn't possess Chakra? Chakra means that his Chakra can't be sensed because he is hiding it. But since when someone can hide his Chakra from a Doujutsu? Look at it rationally, even the invisibility technique is a Jutsu which is using Chakra, which can automatically be seen by the Sharingan when it is rotating or flowing.

Your argumentation is actually baseless, either you are claiming that Muu cannot be seen by a Doujutsu, what is a baseless assumption, nor you are coming up with Itachis stamina which supposedly isn't enough for even using two Amaterasu. Itachi used against Sasuke a lot of very exhausting techniques such as several Amaterasu, Tsukuyomi and Susanoo but you are only blended by the blood Itachi was coughing since he was deadly sick.
 

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Do you know what is meant with 'no' Chakra? Do you actually say that Muu doesn't possess Chakra? Chakra means that his Chakra can't be sensed because he is hiding it. But since when someone can hide his Chakra from a Doujutsu? Look at it rationally, even the invisibility technique is a Jutsu which is using Chakra, which can automatically be seen by the Sharingan when it is rotating or flowing.

Your argumentation is actually baseless, either you are claiming that Muu cannot be seen by a Doujutsu, what is a baseless assumption, nor you are coming up with Itachis stamina which supposedly isn't enough for even using two Amaterasu. Itachi used against Sasuke a lot of very exhausting techniques such as several Amaterasu, Tsukuyomi and Susanoo but you are only blended by the blood Itachi was coughing since he was deadly sick.

no no, the debate is over, I already claimed victory. You are clutching at straws.
 

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When Kabuto said that Muu has no presence and Chakra he was referring to the sensors, whose ability is to sense someones Chakra. So basically your Manga page hasn't proven that he can hide his Chakra from a Doujutsu whose ability isn't based on sensing someones presence but simply see Chakra.

And until you have not proven that he can hide his Chakra from a Doujutsu, yes, the debate is over :).
 
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