Muslim Family 'Humiliated' After US Holiday Ban
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Yea I know Ted Cruz could possibly win Iowa which could help him win candidacy but that's still a stretch. I was referring to news reports I was actually watching earlier today. Cruz is second but he's a distant second and even Iowa might not be able to change that. More recent polls are suggesting that Republicans are actually warming up to Trump, with more saying they'd be open to voting for him than before. And he's viewed more favorably in key Republican concerns such as the Economy, ISIS, and immigration that other candidates.
What's more is Ted Cruz has really just begun to separate himself and be seen as a viable alternative to Trump. He may not be able gain the confidence of Republican voters when it comes to defeating Hillary, which could also impact things in the likely event that he and Trump go head to head for the nomination. Trump is still the only candidate with the support that may be able to rival Hillary, which if winning presidency takes precedent over the right candidate could be the deciding factor depending on how much more momentum Cruz can actually pick up before the Convention.
I was watching the news on television but again a google search will bring the more recent reports on the race to show you what I'm talking about.
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Unfortunately he might be. I'm not gonna speak for all, but I think Americans enjoy people like him; confident and doesn't care what other people think. He is a good politician in his own way because he is stubborn and really want changes, but those changed he want is just not right.
I can tell he's a person that can go to war without problems if he doesn't get what he want.
Are we suppose to blame them for their actions?
Two brothers and nine children, without their mothers. Age range from 8 to 19. The two brothers has/had facebook pages in which they spoke about Al-Qaeda. They are also apparently from Waltham Forest which is known for a lot of things, extremism being one. I'm sure the Homeland did their research and there were more to this than reported / mentioned so before you drop any reason to support humanity, think.
Two brothers and nine children, without their mothers. Age range from 8 to 19. The two brothers has/had facebook pages in which they spoke about Al-Qaeda. They are also apparently from Waltham Forest which is known for a lot of things, extremism being one. I'm sure the Homeland did their research and there were more to this than reported / mentioned so before you drop any reason to support humanity, think.
The Facebook page wasn't in the name of either brothers, it was in a name similar to one of the sons, the 18 year old. The same people that reported the story, ITV News btw, also suggested themselves that the page was likely a joke due to the job title stating the 18 year old was a "supervisor at Taliban and leader at al-Qaeda", also with a link to their home address suggesting it may have been someone who knew them or it being linked due by authorities due to the similar first name. So far the only viable reason for the barring that has surfaced was one of the brothers being banned from travel to Israel about 8 years ago.
Just helping you keep your facts straight. Feel free to look up the information yourself as I did. I totally agree that we should think first
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Thank you for correcting me.
Yeah, I read about the Israel ban but couldn't find any related to it when I search for it hence I didn't add it up.
As for the home address, it stated that in one of the photos, he posed near or in front of his home in Walthamstow.
Jokes aside, the 18 year old's actions only added more trouble to those who'd take it seriously. If a 24/25 year old John of Isis can be their butcher, or as they say; their poster boy, then on people's mind, anything is possible. They're training children as young as 5 to be killers, so any possibilities, despite how absurd it can be, shouldn't be ignored.
So, in America the electoral college is what determines the presidency. The electoral college is simply a system of electors who meet in each of their home states, and cast ballots for the presidency. The truth is, the electoral college is just a formality, because even before they vote, the presidency is pretty much decided. Before getting to the electoral college, candidates have to get through their respective party's conventions. The Democratic National Convention (happening sometime next September, I believe) and the Republican National Convention (Happening sometime in August, I think). The presidency is really decided here. Democratic nominees for the presidency all attend, and it's here that the Party's Presidential candidate for the election is chosen. Right now, the stats don't matter. They'll change soon enough anyways. Donald Trump could have a 98% lead over the other candidates right now, it means nothing at the moment. The first caucuses haven't even begun yet. The truth is, no matter what the politicians want you to believe, America isn't a democracy. Never has been. It's more of a pluralistic republic - in fact, you could even argue that it's little more than an oligarchy at this point. Popular votes mean diddly squat in the grand scheme of things. Al Gore won the popular vote, but George Bush became President.
The thing is, what does count in elections, is money and connections. Quid Pro Quo, you scratch my back, I scratch yours. There are so many intrigues in contemporary politics, and that's what makes it so interesting to follow in my opinion. Candidates go to states to win delegates - people who are assigned to vote for their respective party's nomination in the Party Convention. Delegates can be won over for a variety of reasons. On paper, you think that this works out, and that delegates vote for the candidate with the 'best ideas' wins the nominations. However, exchanges of money and, most importantly, favors often decide which candidate wins the delegates' votes. The reason that Hilary Clinton is doing so well, despite so many democrats favoring Bernie, is that she has sooooooo many political connections that it's absolutely insane. Her husband was hands down one of, if not the greatest, POTUS in recent memory. People remember that, and people are hoping she'll do just as good a job as him. Politicians aren't crazy, or stupid, no matter how much we say they are. They're just greedy. Why do you think congress votes to raise their own pay, and has no term limits? So, no matter how depraved they are, no elector or delegate IN HIS RIGHT MIND would ever elect Trump. My guess is, come June or July, once the Republicans have nominated Jeb Bush/Marco Rubio/Chris Christie/Ben Carson, Donald Trump will run as an independent. Also, Democrats LOVE the fact that Donald is running. They really do. It detracts from their rival party's reputation to the point that the leaders of the party denounce him. That doesn't look good for the republicans, not at all. So, it's actually a strategy for some democrats to register, or pay others to register, as Republicans, and to vote for candidates that they KNOW would never have any chance of getting elected. But for now, we have to wait and see as the Iowa caucuses haven't even begun yet lol
I know that's why I agreed with what you said about thinking. Like I said in an earlier post it sucks, but this is to be expected. As much as I might feel for the families (there have been others besides these people) getting this kind of treatment, without a way to truly filter threats it's a dangerous game no matter how you slice it
Trust me, I'm well informed on the workings, strategies, and deeper implications of our political system and how the process works, however, I appreciate you taking the time to post that. My comment was actually in fact related to what you were referring to, I was going off more recent info than what you posted from last week. The news reports I was watching earlier wasn't about just popular vote, but potential electoral as well. In fact, your article from Chicago Tribune, which based it's opinion mainly on Cruz and his potential in Iowa, spoke a little on what I'm referring to as well. Just didn't feel like going into detail which is why I said you could look up the more recent information regarding your topic on your own. Nevertheless, as you said we have to wait and see
I myself dealt with that. I'm a Muslim and during Christmas last year, I visited Birmingham to be with my girlfriend and during my time there, from transit to Dubai to Birmingham, they kept looking at my name and my face sporting their "is this kid legit or not?" and even ask why I'm there and if I'm really a Muslim and when I said I'm there because my girlfriend wanted me to be around for Christmas, they ask "are your girlfriend Christian?" in which I replied yes to the point they ask for addresses and all that and when I return back home, two people from my own country ask me to stop so they can see my pastport, after I went through all the checks but I don't blame them, safety is important because one small mistake could cost many life. People just need to stop criticizing every single safety measures done because when something happens, any safety-related department are dealing with the blame, by the same people who'd criticize them.
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Ya now what they say, the stupid actions of the few messes it up for the rest. It maybe dumb but it's true. As much as I hate it, this type of profiling is a preventive measure. Judging each and everyone we meet on a case by case base is reactive. So which camp do you fall in? Prevent an incident that happens by profiling, or react to the incident after the fact and finding those responsible by profiling. I prefer the former. It might not be ideal, but I'd rather see an inconvenienced family than a body count when I turn on the news. Apologies are better than grieving.