MS Sasuke vs Sound 5

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KidGamer65 said:
-A little ball of Amaterasu isn't going to burn him badly when it was on Karin for multiple seconds and only burnt through her cloak.

-Amaterasu doesn't spread quickly by itself unless the user spreads it by adding more flame.
Exactly, it only burnt through her cloak. It didn't affect her skin. Sasuke isn't going to use it on his clothes, he's going to use it on his skin to inflict pain. Even though it's a little ball, it's still going to hurt that area of skin badly. Something that's been hyped to be 'as hot as the sun' (hyperbole) isn't going to lightly burn him.

MS Sasuke has never experienced this before. He's first going to see if he can self inflict pain through normal means; a kunai etc. Once he's realized this, he probably'll resort to Amaterasu but again, he's never thought of using dojutsu techniques to inflict pain, evidenced when he said , the thought never occurred to him and it'd take him a few seconds to realize what he has to do in order to escape the genjutsu.
 

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Exactly, it only burnt through her cloak. It didn't affect her skin. Sasuke isn't going to use it on his clothes, he's going to use it on his skin to inflict pain. Even though it's a little ball, it's still going to hurt that area of skin badly. Something that's been hyped to be 'as hot as the sun' (hyperbole) isn't going to lightly burn him.

It couldn't burn through a cloak and burn Karin's skin in that time frame, its going to burn his skin in a second so badly that it'll permanently impair him.

Bringing Amaterasu's hype means nothing here when I'm bringing its feats.





MS Sasuke has never experienced this before. He's first going to see if he can self inflict pain through normal means; a kunai etc. Once he's realized this, he probably'll resort to Amaterasu but again, he's never thought of using dojutsu techniques to inflict pain, evidenced when he said , the thought never occurred to him and it'd take him a few seconds to realize what he has to do in order to escape the genjutsu.

-Why in the world would he try to inflict pain with a Kunai when he is paralyzed from the Genjutsu?

-Good, you've proved that he never thought him and Itachi can break out of the Genjutsu simultaneously by using Sharingan Genjutsu on each other. You haven't proved that he doesn't know how to inflict pain on himself, which is simpler than what they did to break the Genjutsu.
 

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Is this really being discussed?
 

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KidGamer65 said:
It couldn't burn through a cloak and burn Karin's skin in that time frame, its going to burn his skin in a second so badly that it'll permanently impair him.

Bringing Amaterasu's hype means nothing here when I'm bringing its feats.
She was affected by Amaterasu for about 5 seconds and She was also rendered unconscious from just being hit by Amaterasu. It doesn't necessarily have to melt his skin for it to be painful; it's been shown in the manga that Amaterasu burns slowly but induces a great amount of pain. Zetsu clones were for a few seconds and even though their bodies didn't look too badly burnt, one Zetsu clone
Slowly burning =/= amount of pain inflicted.
-Why in the world would he try to inflict pain with a Kunai when he is paralyzed from the Genjutsu?

-Good, you've proved that he never thought him and Itachi can break out of the Genjutsu simultaneously by using Sharingan Genjutsu on each other. You haven't proved that he doesn't know how to inflict pain on himself, which is simpler than what they did to break the Genjutsu.
Because that's normally how shinobi self inflict pain. They use a kunai. Once he's realized he'll be unable to resort to a kunai to bring himself out of the genjutsu due to being paralysed, he'll resort to other methods to induce pain. Also, IIRC, the smallest amount of Amaterasu he's produced is and he still had to manipulate that with his hand, something he won't be able to do in this scenario. That small amount is still big enough to harm him.

He'll realize he can inflict pain upon himself through other methods since he's not stupid, but he won't realize it instantly, unless you're implying he thinks as fast as the Flash. That small window of vulnerability is more than enough time for any other Sound 5 members to end the battle.
 

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Hebi Sasuke solos
don't underrate Sasuke , only Kirin is enough

MS Sasuke is too much for them to deal
 

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She was affected by Amaterasu for about 5 seconds and She was also rendered unconscious from just being hit by Amaterasu. It doesn't necessarily have to melt his skin for it to be painful; it's been shown in the manga that Amaterasu burns slowly but induces a great amount of pain. Zetsu clones were for a few seconds and even though their bodies didn't look too badly burnt, one Zetsu clone
Slowly burning =/= amount of pain inflicted.

I never said that it didn't burn through her cloak, I clearly said that it failed to burn through her cloak and burn her skin all in the same time frame.

Barely had the strength to talk? Nothing like that is ever indicated, not to mention he hit them with Amaterasu balls the size of their own bodies, that isn't going to happen here. Mei's mist already melted his skin a bit. I repeat: Sasuke being seriously injured to the extent where he can't fight is ridiculous.



Because that's normally how shinobi self inflict pain. They use a kunai. Once he's realized he'll be unable to resort to a kunai to bring himself out of the genjutsu due to being paralysed, he'll resort to other methods to induce pain. Also, IIRC, the smallest amount of Amaterasu he's produced is and he still had to manipulate that with his hand, something he won't be able to do in this scenario. That small amount is still big enough to harm him.
Why in the world would he even contemplate the possibility of using a Kunai when he can't move? You are trying to undermine his intelligence to better your argument and its really sad.

He produced that to match Naruto's FRS, that isn't the smallest amount as the smallest amount is whatever he wants it to be since its proportional to how much chakra is used.

He'll realize he can inflict pain upon himself through other methods since he's not stupid, but he won't realize it instantly, unless you're implying he thinks as fast as the Flash. That small window of vulnerability is more than enough time for any other Sound 5 members to end the battle.

He doesn't need to think as fast as the flash to realize something so basic. Your whole argument on that matter is completely ridiculous. He's going to sit there and think to himself "Let me try a Kunai, oh wait I can't move" in a life or death situation? Are you serious with this right now?

Sasuke gets caught, he inflicts pain to himself via Amaterasu, breaks out and kills the rest. He isn't going to take a whole of 5-10 seconds to realize such a simple fact nor is he going to consider the possibility of a Kunai when he can't even move his body.
 

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Lol at the fools who think these clowns are taking on MS Sasuke. Here is a very simple math logic:

Genin konoha killed the sound ninja
MS Sasuke was taking on gokage

therefore MS Sasuke stomps. Very simple.
 

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Lol at the fools who think these clowns are taking on MS Sasuke. Here is a very simple math logic:

Genin konoha killed the sound ninja
MS Sasuke was taking on gokage

therefore MS Sasuke stomps. Very simple.

totally agree , not to mention that kirin is enough to finish them ( Hebi Sasuke )
 

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KidGamer65 said:
I never said that it didn't burn through her cloak, I clearly said that it failed to burn through her cloak and burn her skin all in the same time frame.

Barely had the strength to talk? Nothing like that is ever indicated, not to mention he hit them with Amaterasu balls the size of their own bodies, that isn't going to happen here. Mei's mist already melted his skin a bit. I repeat: Sasuke being seriously injured to the extent where he can't fight is ridiculous.
The fact that he looks half dead? And the ellipsis used shows that he took breaks while talking. Nowhere did I state Sasuke will be injured to the extent where he can't fight, but you're acting as if he's going to shrug off being hit by Amaterasu and then activate Susanoo the instant later.
Why in the world would he even contemplate the possibility of using a Kunai when he can't move? You are trying to undermine his intelligence to better your argument and its really sad.

He produced that to match Naruto's FRS, that isn't the smallest amount as the smallest amount is whatever he wants it to be since its proportional to how much chakra is used.
Because he's going to try to move first and then realize he's paralysed? If he didn't move at all how on earth will he realize he's paralysed? He's not going to think 'Oh damn, I'm in a genjutsu, I must be paralysed', he's first going to try to move and then he'll realize he's completely immobilised. For example, , evidenced by saying 'My body won't move'. I'm hoping I've made my point now; he's not going to instantly resort to Amaterasu to break out of the genjutsu.

And yet we don't know the smallest amount of Amaterasu he can produce without using his hands to manipulate it.
Sasuke gets caught, he inflicts pain to himself via Amaterasu, breaks out and kills the rest. He isn't going to take a whole of 5-10 seconds to realize such a simple fact nor is he going to consider the possibility of a Kunai when he can't even move his body.
It's going to at least take him a couple of seconds to even contemplate of using Amaterasu to inflict pain upon himself. It's something extreme and something he's never done before. And if he does use it on himself before the others finish him off, he's going to flinch from the pain since the pain has to be strong enough to release himself from the genjutsu. He isn't activating Susanoo the second later.
 

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The fact that he looks half dead? And the ellipsis used shows that he took breaks while talking. Nowhere did I state Sasuke will be injured to the extent where he can't fight, but you're acting as if he's going to shrug off being hit by Amaterasu and then activate Susanoo the instant later.

He was Genjutsu'd and able to talk, if he was able to talk then this "barely able to talk" is nothing but a false assumption. He was physically able to talk, with absolutely no problems. Taking a pause in between two statements doesn't mean that he could barely talk, that doesn't even make sense.

Looking half dead isn't even a viable reason.

A small Amaterasu fireball burning him isn't going to stop him from activating Susanoo, he's already felt pain from using Susanoo, felt pain from getting his skin melted by Mei's mist, which melts far faster than Amaterasu yet you are saying he'll have issues activating Susanoo after getting burnt with Amaterasu? You aren't making any sense here.

Because he's going to try to move first and then realize he's paralysed? If he didn't move at all how on earth will he realize he's paralysed? He's not going to think 'Oh damn, I'm in a genjutsu, I must be paralysed', he's first going to try to move and then he'll realize he's completely immobilised. For example, , evidenced by saying 'My body won't move'. I'm hoping I've made my point now; he's not going to instantly resort to Amaterasu to break out of the genjutsu.

They were hit by the Genjutsu and knew that they were both caught in Genjutsu and knew that they were paralyzed by it as well. [ ] Hence the scan clearly showing them inside their minds with snakes binding their movements, so yes, he will realize his immobile from the start.

And yet we don't know the smallest amount of Amaterasu he can produce without using his hands to manipulate it.
Its proportional to his chakra. If he wants to make a small amount smaller than his hand then he'll make that amount. Not that hard of a concept to grasp.

It's going to at least take him a couple of seconds to even contemplate of using Amaterasu to inflict pain upon himself. It's something extreme and something he's never done before. And if he does use it on himself before the others finish him off, he's going to flinch from the pain since the pain has to be strong enough to release himself from the genjutsu. He isn't activating Susanoo the second later.

Just like it took him a few seconds to contemplate stabbing himself when he was just a Gennin in Part 1? Yeah, no. It being extreme and him having never done it before doesn't change anything at all.

Just like he flinched when getting melted by Mei's acid?

Just like he flinched when using Susanoo multiple times?

He is activating Susanoo and there is absolutely zero reason why he can't.
 

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It's disgusting how underrated Sasuke really is. He wins this with mid diff at best. Kimimaro gets 1shotted by Amaterasu and then Sasuke's Shunshin is too much for the rest to handle.
 

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Tayuya gets 1shotted by Ama and hurrr durrr.. The Sound 5's only chance of winning is dead.
 

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This is hilarious. Everyone who isn't hiding dies within the first two seconds of the match from Amaterasu. This isn't even debatable. Kidomaru's webs are burned and his arrows tanked by Susano'o. The moment he even uses his arrow, he gives away his location and Sasuke sends one of his own arrows Kidomaru's way. Tayuya's genjutsu will give away her location. Not like it was IC for her to hide anyway precisely for this reason. Sasuke doesn't even need to burn himself to break her genjutsu. Simply using Amaterasu or Susano'o will cause Sasuke intense pain, pain which will break her genjutsu. They would have a better chance against EMS Sasuke who felt no pain from using MS techniques. Hell, hiding from Sasuke isn't even an issue. All he has to do is summon a snake and the snake will find Tayuya and Kidomaru through snake sensing.
 

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lol, what the fu_ck?

Sasuke makes them his personal *****es and that's being nice. At least make it Hebi Sasuke for them to least 20 seconds.
 
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