I didn't explain myself well here sorry. I meant to compare his running speed to his attack speed. Gai pushes air. The act of pushing the air is Gai's striking speed, but the speed in which the air travels to hit the target is actually his attack speed. It's that attack speed i'm referring to while saying it's faster than his running/movement speed
Now you're confusing me. The speed of which Sekizo is almost instant; as soon as Gai strikes, the air pressure that takes form of an elephant's foot is almost instantly created [
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He was already going while releasing the punch [
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Just because he planned it doesn't discredit it. If Madara easily reacted to Gai then he would have used 2 of his other orbs to cover his blindside. Lemme add that it wasn't part of his plan to have Madara block an attack, why would Gai want that if it means he does less overall damage to him?
Minato was also capable to sense Obito behind him, so Madara reacting to Tobirama behind him isn't a proof the SM sensing is passive [
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It took a few seconds to register Obito was there, whereas Madara instantly sensed and reacted and he had no reason to sense there. Sensing ability isn't inconsistent, especially not with Juubi hosts.
No, the job would be done when he actually finished the evening elephant movement. The plan was to hit him continuously with the 5steps without leaving openings. He was only at the 4th step at that moment, so the combo wasn't complete and he was still in the process to finish the combo
He had no reason to go at full movement speed after his 4th Step.
We've seen 8gated Gai going full speed from the beginning of the chapter to the end. Did Madara just at one point even showed difficulties to follow his speed? I don't think
1- Madara following and calmly analyzing Gai's air kicking speed [
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He was going full speed until the 5th Step. Gai wasn't advancing towards Madara when he started kicking up the air, he was just moving up.
2- Madara still following his speed(bottom left panel) [
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3- Madara blocking the first punch [
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He was able to block his 1st Step but was unable to with Gai's 2nd. You can see that it only takes 2 orbs to form a shield [
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just barely blocked his 1st Step, in the top left panel you can see he wasn't even facing Gai, he was at an angle. It's also the reason why Madara commented on Gai being fast. (Viz translation: "He
is fast.")
4- Madara could still follow Gai, but because he was immobilised due to previous air cannon attacks, he covers himself while attacking Gai with the black spheres [
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Again, he wasn't going at full speed against his 5th Step. He wasn't able to follow Gai when he used all his other Steps (hence why he didn't cover himself earlier) but when Gai used his final Step he was suddenly able to follow and thus cover himself in his shield. Why?
Because he wasn't going at full speed. Unless you're implying 6G Lee has faster reactions than 8G Gai and was able to throw Minato's kunai fast enough to land it in front of him before Gai himself covered the distance between him and the orbs in his full movement speed. Everything points to Gai not being in full speed with his 5th Step. Another possible reason as to why he didn't go full speed with his 5th Step is because Gai decided to hit Madara directly with his punch. I wouldn't be going at full speed if I had to get up close to someone and that someone is
extremely fast.
At no point, did Madara show trouble following and countering 8gated Gai's speed. The trouble was more concerning the speed of the air cannon attacks [
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Yet he could
only notice Gai when he was about to use his air cannon attack [
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No, MS only has better screenshot. Their translations are always exaggerated to the point it sometimes changes completely the sense of the japanese script. MP's translation however while lacking the cleaning department, their translation are simple, straight to the point and most of the time accurate
Some translations are better in MS than in MP when compared to Viz. For example, MS were spot on with explaining (through Lee) what Sekizo is meant to do (MS) [
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Viz said:
Lee: "He stopped partway?!"
(The Sekizo is supposed to be a continuous attack that can be shifted up in speed from one to five times...)
MS does exaggerate sometimes like with Kakashi talking about the vision in his eye but MP is not always superior to MS in translations.
I see you asked for the viz already anyway. And according to the viz, Minato said
"Just Keep forging on, Guy, no matter what!!"
So Minato basically told him to keep his speedy approach on Madara, which clears up the point about Gai's running speed at that moment
That statement has no references to Gai's movement speed whatsoever. He told him to carry on going with no matter to what Madara does.
Lol maybe. But that would also mean they are so fast it creates circles of dust
Tiny circles of dust. These are
much, much inferior speeds to Gai's speed when you compare little circles of dust and massive air currents.
