1. Oru wasn't trying to fight Itachi on a serious level, he was trying to steal his body. Plus he literally was about to break out no diff, which is why Itachi cut his hand.
Oro wanted Itachi's eyes, FACT. Itachi was only 11-12 and caught him in Genjutsu, and sliced off his hand. He got caught by a child Itachi and that's all that matters.
2. Naruto??? A Kid with the worse chakra control until he started training serious???? Naruto of all ppl speaks for everyone?
Yes, but when you get caught 3 times in a row it starts to show you that avoiding Genjutsu isn't too simple, he even had Shadow clones set up priorly for precaution. Anyways, the Naruto that got caught was the one who could use Odama Rasengan, his chakra control isn't that bad.
3. Kakashi Literally allowed himself to be caught in Tsukuyomi (manga fact), and the second time he literally allowed his CLONE TO BE CAUGHT. What is there to talk about???
Yet he had to train his eye instead of learn to fight without looking, because fighting without looking is pretty much impossible for jutsu users. Still got caught by Sasuke, but he could escape by the method he learned while training his eyes.
5. Kurenai was already in the genjutsu realm and itachi used Genjutsu reverse. Soooooo where is your example?
What? Did she get caught or no? It's a very simple thing that a 5 year old can understand. Because she got caught, end of story, just like every other example I presented.
6. Izanami on Kabuto when Kabuto would have slolo'd him on multiple occasions if not for sasuke? Really???? lmao
Nice logic, Itachi couldn't kill Kabuto since he had intent to capture. Though I'm not seeing what the point of your argument is, why tf should I care about Itachi almost getting solo'd. We are talking FACTS here, and it's a FACT that Kabuto got caught by Izanami.
7. Sasuke and itachi's fight was purposely a genjutsu battle for sasuke to show Itachi he is beyond his illusions. He literally walked in there and fought with his eyes asap!!
If he could avoid eye contact he wouldn't have trained to counter Sharingan, fact.
10. Old man Danzo who didnt have his Sharingan active and who wasn't even worrying about sasuke because he planed on fighting Tobi afterwards? lol He literally underestimated sasuke on purpose and still almost won despite having major handicaps.
He got caught, he fell, Hachibi broke him out, Bee hit Sasuke while he was turned around thinking he has won the fight. Yes, Bee blew his chest out. Am I supposed to care? Nope, because that's not relevant. You want to know what's relevant? Sasuke catching Bee in Genjutsu.
12. Cee was literally focused on Aye and Juugo, and sasuke used that opp to close in and catch him from a foot's distance. bad example.
He's still a high level sensor, and he got caught, which is all that is needed. You act like people can't get distracted in fights when fighting Sharingan users, which is stupid af. Anyone can get distracted and caught in Genjutsu just as easily.
70% of the examples you used held Zero ground and the other 30% was Kids or ppl who knew nothing of Uchiha. What about all the other times a ninja was not caught asap or period with in the manga? Exactly!
Enton and Ama' on every level is useless as Either Cloak protects and dispels the flames. So please come with another argument. No Susanoo blade besides PS (or madara anything.lol) will ever break through V2 cloak. And Susanoo isn't strong enough to Crush be either (unless you have some feats besides a old man named Danzo). Danzo will literally run circles around Sasuke who cannot maintain Susanoo for long periods let alone use 2 MS techs at the same time. Bee literally counters everything that is Sasuke. You list something and I will counter it! Go!
All your counters were irrelevant since all these people got caught anyways. And lol, there are only a few who have not been caught in actual fights. If you think there are that many, how about you name all the fights? I guarantee you it's only a few.
Um what? I never said he'll Amaterasu or Enton randomly, I said the v3 hand covered with Enton will do that. It's not being dispelled because it's being kept in place by the v3 Susano hand. Danzo got crushed by v2. All v3 has to do is squash Bee while burning him simultaneously. And lol at telling me to get feats, when v2 Bee doesn't have any amazing durability feats himself. And no, he doesn't get Kyuubi v2 feats, the Kyuubi's chakra is much stronger.
Oro wanted Itachi's eyes, FACT. Itachi was only 11-12 and caught him in Genjutsu, and sliced off his hand. He got caught by a child Itachi and that's all that matters.
lol I love how Uchiha fans like your self make things what it wasn't in teh manga. Oru didnt use a single Jutsu and only wanted his body (not to kill). Nor did he care about his Genjutsu since he literally was about to break it. He was testing Itachi's powers and capabilities and eye powers, it wasn't a "oh shit he caught me in a genjutsu, i had no idea"even though he purposely looked in his eyes. Do you not know what "on purpose" means?
Yes, but when you get caught 3 times in a row it starts to show you that avoiding Genjutsu isn't too simple, he even had Shadow clones set up priorly for precaution. Anyways, the Naruto that got caught was the one who could use Odama Rasengan, his chakra control isn't that bad.
No he didnt. Look up "caught" please before i hit you with a dictionary bro.lol If I walk up in a police station and steal right in front of the cops because I wanna see what they would do means I purposely wanted to get arrested. Not "I was caught". He literally looked in his eyes, nothing to talk about unless you wanna get hit with manga images and a dictionary.
Yet he had to train his eye instead of learn to fight without looking, because fighting without looking is pretty much impossible for jutsu users. Still got caught by Sasuke, but he could escape by the method he learned while training his eyes.
What is your point? Guy trained not to look in eyes, ninjas trained to run faster etc etc. That is what he him self chose to do, not because it was the only option when it is fact it isn't. Are you saying to only way is to train your eyes? lol
What? Did she get caught or no? It's a very simple thing that a 5 year old can understand. Because she got caught, end of story, just like every other example I presented.
She never was put in his genjutsu to begin with, Do you not know what genjutsu reversal is???? He was caught and reversed her jutsu. Please learn the difference I'm begging you!!! And please look up genjutsu reversal and look up how the sharingan works!
Nice logic, Itachi couldn't kill Kabuto since he had intent to capture. Though I'm not seeing what the point of your argument is, why tf should I care about Itachi almost getting solo'd. We are talking FACTS here, and it's a FACT that Kabuto got caught by Izanami.
Kabuto couldn't kill itachi because of edo, your point? And it's fact Izanami isn't affecting Bee. Are we talking about Izanami or Visual Sharingan genjutsu? because you're clearly all over the place not making sense. thinking they are one in the same. lmao
Kabuto>>>>>>>>>>>>Any version of itachi period! Izanami was only possible because of Sasukes help (fact).
Yes, but Sasuke never knew when he was in Genjutsu etc until he activated CM2 and got the Senjutsu enhancement so that he could leave.
Nothing to talk about yet again. But i'll humor you; Sasuke knew everytime when he was in genjutsu what are you talking about??? DO I need to post manga scans and databook facts from kishi stating it?
I suggest you reread that fight, because they were fighting, not talking
And not a single one of them were remotely serious. That was a small skirmish and them talking figuring things out and helping each other. To think Bee was 100% serious and all out is foolish. lol Bee>Itachi
If he could avoid eye contact he wouldn't have trained to counter Sharingan, fact.
So I guess hashirama, Tobirama, AO, Chiyo etc etc every ninja ever only hope is to train there eye? Oh wait! it's fact many ninja's did not yet many Uchihas died over history! You're logic is hella flawed and not backed up with the manga. No where does it state " the only way to survive sharingan genjutsu is to Train your eye" lol Really?
I could not care less. Did he get caught or no? The answer is yes.
Sooooo you really don;t care for what happens in the manga at all huh? As long as one thing happened it's the end all only thing that happened? lol I'll let you attempt to come back to this.. I dare you!
He got caught, he fell, Hachibi broke him out, Bee hit Sasuke while he was turned around thinking he has won the fight. Yes, Bee blew his chest out. Am I supposed to care? Nope, because that's not relevant. You want to know what's relevant? Sasuke catching Bee in Genjutsu.
Habachi never broke him out when he blew sasuke's chest open! Manga fact he was still in genjutsu. What are you reading??? Sasuke catching a areil Bee and still being killed and it being useless just further proves my point! It is fact he can still function under sasukes genjutsu unless you have something to state otherwise.
He's still a high level sensor, and he got caught, which is all that is needed. You act like people can't get distracted in fights when fighting Sharingan users, which is stupid af. Anyone can get distracted and caught in Genjutsu just as easily.
Who said he was a high level sensor? making stuff up i see. lol He was focused on Aye and Juugo and his chakra was not turned into sensing at that moment. And catching Cee isn't anything to brag about, Cee was also almost killed by Suigetsu, whats your point?
All your counters were irrelevant since all these people got caught anyways. And lol, there are only a few who have not been caught in actual fights. If you think there are that many, how about you name all the fights? I guarantee you it's only a few.
No, you clearly do not know what "caught" means clearly bruh. First look it up learn the meaning then come back and attempt to counter. If you want me to post every manga scan of a ninja not being caught in genjutsu then your are out of your mind! Wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy too many pages and I have a life.
Um what? I never said he'll Amaterasu or Enton randomly, I said the v3 hand covered with Enton will do that. It's not being dispelled because it's being kept in place by the v3 Susano hand. Danzo got crushed by v2. All v3 has to do is squash Bee while burning him simultaneously. And lol at telling me to get feats, when v2 Bee doesn't have any amazing durability feats himself. And no, he doesn't get Kyuubi v2 feats, the Kyuubi's chakra is much stronger.
Feats of V2 or any susanoo hand being covered with enton please! Then you compare a old human to a Durable Bee let alone V2 Bee?????? And scans of the Kyubi's V2 being stated to be aboe other V2???? I'll wait! Scans of any of the non sense you are spitting to support your claims please! V2 is V2 unless Kishi or the manga states othersise! Anything else?
Literally already posted scans of Bee hitting sasuke with lariot while in genjutsu, showed he was still in genjutsu after he off'd sasuke. Yet he believes he was already broken out despite the manga literally showing him still in the genjutsu and about to break out via habachi transformation. You are literally the only one who agree's with your non supported logic. lmao Done with ya
Literally already posted scans of Bee hitting sasuke with lariot while in genjutsu, showed he was still in genjutsu after he off'd sasuke. Yet he believes he was already broken out despite the manga literally showing him still in the genjutsu and about to break out via habachi transformation. You are literally the only one who agree's with your non supported logic. lmao Done with ya
Lmao Bee literally states he can't move after he got genjutsu'd and then later explains Hachibi broke it for him but somehow this guy knows he was moving while in genjutsu.Must have interviewed Mashashi Kishimoto personally or maybe i am wrong becoz i am an uchiha fan despite the manga being clearly in my side :lol
^^ The fuсk? :lol So Bee clearly states he can't move, yet he Lariats Sasuke seconds later seeming perfectly mobile, and somehow... he wasn't already broken out of the genjutsu.
^^ The fuсk? :lol So Bee clearly states he can't move, yet he Lariats Sasuke seconds later seeming perfectly mobile, and somehow... he wasn't already broken out of the genjutsu.
yet he was still in the genjutsu! Damn I know the other guy is slow, but you wanna Deny manga facts as well? Too further prove; lets say he broke free, that would mean with in a sec he was not affected by genjutsu, that only proves Bee>>Genjutsu that isnt less then a second. How about you put up reason why Sasuke wins instead of piggy backing on his tip.
When Sasuke caught Bee bee was in the air and not ground level for a shunshin. When sasuke caught Bee-Bee was not aware at that time nor did he care. But when Sasuke used his best Genjutsu He had his neck and chest blown off no diff while Bee was still in Genjutsu.
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So this not only Shows the Genjutsu was weak for a ninja like bee, but also shows he is still able to function enough for his Bijuu to break him out soon after.