MS Sasuke vs 7th Gate Gai

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Oh my God. Gai blitzes and rapes horribly.
 

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Needs to see a real argument for gai. Amaterasu the size of gyuki body counters hirudora as well
 

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Needs to see a real argument for gai. Amaterasu the size of gyuki body counters hirudora as well
Sasuke would eat Hirudora from behind. Just like how Raikage pimpslapped Sasuke's neck, but replace that with a hirudora
 

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Sasuke would eat Hirudora from behind. Just like how Raikage pimpslapped Sasuke's neck, but replace that with a hirudora

Only if gai movement speed was that fast its his shunshin. Once gai uses hirudora and it fails because v4'Susanoo takes minimal to high damaged gai is hurt by the after shock amaterasu burns his ass or susanoo arrow clears him he cannot destroy a V4 susanoo and he's definitely not holding the gates up longer than susanoo when the gates can only be held up for a single attack than they go away.

This so called giant hirudora did basically nothing to kisame its not do anymore damage to a v4 it is took with minimal damage.
 

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Full intel: Gai knows Sasuke can't keep v4 up for too long, so he just drags out the battle. Gai can dodge any attack sasuke makes. When v4 falls down to v3, he destroys it with hirudora.
 

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Full intel: Gai knows Sasuke can't keep v4 up for too long, so he just drags out the battle. Gai can dodge any attack sasuke makes. When v4 falls down to v3, he destroys it with hirudora.

Sasuke knows gai cannot dodge his attacks with anything lower than a 6gate shunshin while also knowing he cannot even bypass a ribcage with nothing more than 7th gate gai tires out from using 6 gates while Sasuke is safe and snuggy with his ribcage susanoo on his hawk. Kirin prep takes down gai to
 

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Sasuke knows gai cannot dodge his attacks with anything lower than a 6gate shunshin while also knowing he cannot even bypass a ribcage with nothing more than 7th gate gai tires out from using 6 gates while Sasuke is safe and snuggy with his ribcage susanoo on his hawk. Kirin prep takes down gai to

Saying Sasuke can keep using MS techniques longer than Gai using the 6th gate (with no need of using asa kujaku) after what we've seen in the war arc, is a joke.
 

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Saying Sasuke can keep using MS techniques longer than Gai using the 6th gate (with no need of using asa kujaku) after what we've seen in the war arc, is a joke.

Ribcage susanoo is nothing add the fact he can drop his susanoo once he takes flight via hawk.

What did gai do gate wise to say he can outlast anyone longest duration in a gate below 8th gate is a single attack or a dodging feat he gets outlasted.
 

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Only if gai movement speed was that fast its his shunshin. Once gai uses hirudora and it fails because v4'Susanoo takes minimal to high damaged gai is hurt by the after shock amaterasu burns his ass or susanoo arrow clears him he cannot destroy a V4 susanoo and he's definitely not holding the gates up longer than susanoo when the gates can only be held up for a single attack than they go away.

This so called giant hirudora did basically nothing to kisame its not do anymore damage to a v4 it is took with minimal damage.
The moment Gai goes in 7th gate, it's game over. Not only Sasuke will not have time to activate anything other than rib cage Susanoo(refer to Raikage vs Sasuke), Gai would outright shit all over Sasuke with anything lower than v4. Even v4 would get destroys by 2 hirudoras. No reason to believe Gai can't use two hirudoras in row.
Inb4 Gai won't use Hirudora right off the bat, when Gai has shown to use Hirudora immediately after he enters 7th gate. Full Intel even makes it easier, since Gai knows he would have easier time killing Sasuke before Sasuke can activate v4. Gai would immediately shunshin behind Sasuke, and kill him with hirudora
 

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Ribcage susanoo is nothing add the fact he can drop his susanoo once he takes flight via hawk.

What did gai do gate wise to say he can outlast anyone longest duration in a gate below 8th gate is a single attack or a dodging feat he gets outlasted.

Yeah but if Sasuke doesn't use v4 off the bat then he eats short range Hirudora to his face. So he must keep v4 to survive, and Gai can keep the 6th gate opened longer.

During the war, the usage of Gai's gates against the bijuus was more impressive than any stamina feat MS sasuke has.
 

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Sasuke wins. Once his hawk is present Gai either maintains his 7th Gate while Sasuke isn't using any chakra (attrition), or he goes back to Base and Sasuke one shots him with Amaterasu. Yes, Gates release a large shockwave, just like Shinra Tensei does. Doesn't change the fact that Nagato would've lost an arm and a leg had he not been an Edo in that short duration.

Yeah but if Sasuke doesn't use v4 off the bat then he eats short range Hirudora to his face. So he must keep v4 to survive, and Gai can keep the 6th gate opened longer.

During the war, the usage of Gai's gates against the bijuus was more impressive than any stamina feat MS sasuke has.

He doesn't need to use any chakra while he's on the hawk. Meanwhile Gai is continuously tearing his body down in 7th Gate.
 

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1. Genjutsu is hopeless due to a simple reason.
2. Amaterasu requires build up...Plus I have almost zero reasons to believe Sasuke would attempt this in his V4 due to the massive strain. Besides Gai can dance in the 7th Gate longer than this guys can fire Amaterasu while in V4. That's even if he gets the opportunity before he's fired at.
3. Sasuke's eye bleed with blood dripping down. Hinting at Amaterasu.
4. Madara's V3 >> Sasuke's..Yet AT destroyed it. At least 2 should completely destroy his V4.
5. Amaterasu doesn't burn as fast to completely injure Gai before he blows it away..Read Draegod's thread. Either way before Gai blast it off, it's not doing damage.

I debated Prince Charles and some others on this topic before to which they acknowledged Gai's victory...Pretty sure I had a Quote that covered everything in this thread.

Hahah It makes things easier for Gai then. All he has to do is this simply open the gates. Surely amaterasu would easily be blown away by something like this:
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Also Keep in mind Gai can open the Gates quick enough and his speed enables him to avoid it and the chakra can repel it considering it was doing so to the water as shown in the first scan I showed earlier.
Here Gai could open the gates fast enough and use hiruodora before Naruto was stabbed despite being restrained. So he doesn't have to take a particular position. He could also open it instantly here


Except you don't understand the concept properly. It's not just his feet he looks at. He look at his body. He only has to avoid EYE CONTACT.

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It's not like it would Amaterasu would hit his face or something. Not when Gai is simply avoiding his eyes while looking upwards. He can definitely see it coming.

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Gai has even shown the ability to react to things he can't see.

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Doesn't matter. Hirudora takes Susanoo down. Gai can fight long enough in the 7G seeing how he was fighting with an even stronger gate and using repeated techniques.

He uses his Hawk which isn't faster than Gai can kick up or rather cover the distance. Which ever way.

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Lol This wind argument again?

Amaterasu on the guard :

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Amaterasu after one strike of temari's non significant wind jutsu:

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Temari's justu there didn't show much force compared to this which could be felt far away like here and or at least a blast that was capable of pushing Madara back when it exploded.

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Amaterasu would be nothing when hirudora explodes. Of course it's not greater than wind.

Plus the fact that Sasuke cannot build up chakra and release Amaterasu before AT is executed. Nothing else but to say Sasuke loses. Plus if Gai decides to make eye contact, he'll only do this when he has the Gates activated which would constantly break any Genjutsu thrown at him due to constant Pain. That way he can even see Sasuke's eyes bleed if he wants to use Amaterasu and he can power to the 7th. He can probably use the 3rd Gate which takes almost nothing from him and still look at Sasuke's eyes without being affected by the Genjutsu.
 
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So lucky I'm not home the logic im seeing lawd.
 

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The thread title states 7th Gate Guy, so I assume that's how he's starting the battle. In which case, Guy got up in Juubidara's face from a distance further than 40 metres before Juubidara even realised he was there. That pretty much means Sasuke eats a Hirudora from behind, considering no MS user has ever shown the ability to manifest V4 Susano'o at a moment's notice, and Sasuke simply isn't fast enough either way.
 

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this is not even a fair matchup lol. Gai wins
 
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