[VS] MS Sasuke versus Pein

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-Sasuke has full intel while Pain has no intel besides the fact Sasuke has Mangekyo.

-All Susanoo variants associated with MS are allowed, meaning Sasuke gets .

Forget about summoning Aoda or Manda to deal with the Animal Summons, V4 Susanoo would rape them with Enton or he can Amaterasu the Animal Path before she can even summon.

I'm going to go with Sasuke on this one.
He does make a point on this one though
 

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You Sasuke fapboys are too much. Sasuke doesn't stand a chance. Naruto barely won and he needed the Kyuubi to do it after sage mode ran out and Hinata came out to give him the chance to go berserk. CT owns Sasuke because he has NOTHING to use to get out of it.

Pein low difficulty.
 

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Good to know....what does he do after he repels those attacks and he has to wait 5 seconds for his next attack? I will tell you....he gets burned.​
You are talking like sasuke can spam his techniques throughout the battle..
Amaterasu requires charge up time.. Moreover sasuke isn't getting up after getting hit by ST in a matter of seconds
Even if deva gets hit he can repel the flames since he's. Jus a corpse

Absorbs all of them? Are you really that blind? I didn't knew it was possible to absorb an attack that it not made of Chakra(Kirin)​
No way is sasuke prepping Kirin when he is constantly put on the defensive

Oh, great....he performed better against Sasuke(who by the way just fought Danzo and was completely exhausted)....tell me, what are you trying imply? and you called the example i used "purely useless"....how ironic.​
I'm tryin to imply tha deva and sasuke are relatively the same when I comes to taijutsu however with chakra rods and near instant ST/BT deva would be at an advantage
He also has backup from 5 other paths...
 

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Pain stomps Sasuke, no-diff. Your spewed logic won't change that.
Atleast counter my arguments... Sasuke gets stomped no-diff is beyond funny kid...
How is he going to force Deva in to ST, and get Amaterasu in while he has 5 pains that can immediately jump him from the Amaterasu recharge rate?


Jman's 3 frogs were solo'd by the Cerebrus, Aoba is not taking on that let alone 2-3 other summons.

Pain's chakra goes in to the animal summonings, that's why they have Rinnegan eyes and black rods. Sasuke's genjutsu is not controlling them.

You're underestimating Preta, he's a key Pain among the 6th, you need to separate him to take on the other 5.
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If Sauce gets Amaterasu off, he kills all but Deva and Preta. Those two easily jump him while he recharges from using the MS.

If Sauce gets Susano'o off, then he'll have to take out Deva so he can effectively kill every other Pain. But then Animal path can spam its summonings and overwhelm him.

If Sauce gets Susano'o off, and he goes for Animal path, then Deva still takes him out with BT and the fight ends.
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Everything in Sasuke's arsenal is countered. If Sasuke was to stand a chance, he would have to retreat in the middle of the fight. That's not happening, they're fighting at Samurai bridge.
One Amaterasu would be enough for Deva... As his body would be to burned and hurt to fight after getting hit with Amaterasu... Those path's speed isn't impressive at all so there not taking Amaterasu for him by jumping in the way...
Cerberus got beat pretty easy by those 3frogs... Also Amaterasu one shots as it did in cannon... Like a said before Manda and Aoda stomps the rest of those summonings... Basho tenin will only get Deva path killed in the long run...

^ This, seriously people. Pain solo'd a village and SM Naruto w/ prep time for crying out loud LMAO!



Pain knows about MS = he knows about Amaterasu and Tsukuyomi. The only thing he's not aware of is Susano'o.
Let's be honest everybody was nerfed during that pain invasion arc... Kakashi could have one shotted Deva... Not to mention Team Gai wasen't even there Nor was Naruto when he blew the Village to pieces... Also we're clearly reading to different Manga's if you think Pain defeated SM Naruto...

Pein takes this.

Sasuke doesn't have enough firepower to deal with multiple opponents/summons & counter deva path simultaneously.

Even with info, animal path alone is enough to give sasuke some trouble due to his eyesight since, he can only deal with them by using either amaterasu or susanoo.

& If susanoo can tank st it doesn't change anything really, sasuke will still get knocked around with susanoo activated or not, sure he escapes the deadly physical damage but the longer he keeps susanoo up the worse this fight plays out for him.
Amaterasu one shots Cerberus... Manda and Aoda takes the rest of the summonings out with ease... That just ended the bottom half of your argument... The onther paths such as Human and Naraka are nearly useless... Also he can heat up that atmosphere with Amaterasu/Enton Kirin FTW...

Even if he uses Amaterasu and Deva/Preta absorb it. Sauce has to recharge, while Deva's 5 second interval is over and he BTs Sasuke for the kill.
Recharge???? Even if preta did absrob Amaterasu off Deva path's body it wouldn't matter because he'll be to damaged to fight...
MS Sasuke loses pretty handily

Ill counter the arguments that come after this post >.<
Ready to hear your argument...
 

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Sasuke would win, mainly for the fact that he obtains full intel on all Paths. One of the biggest reasons as to why Pain is so dangerous and powerful, is that most of his opponents do not know of his abilities and when facing it, one mistake could easily turn fatal. You would be puzzling out a mystery, be confused, while fighting the Rinnegan abilities. However if you give a brilliant tactician like Sasuke full intel? And you restrict Pains most powerful move which is CT? There is a high chance Sasuke would win. Amaterasu and Susanoo are key to this, really. Aside from the Preta and Deva Path, none of the Paths would have the counter for techniques such as Amaterasu or Susanoo Arrows (Which Sasuke would be aware of). I am quite sure he could lap up a strategy to defeat all six then. Can anyone give me a realistic and fair battle scenario where Sasuke would be left helpless? Preta Path can only guard itself or one other Path, at best. Sasuke wont be so stupid to use chakra-taxing attacks like Amaterasu for it to only be absorbed.. And the cooldown of the Deva Path will be its downfall as well. If Sasuke did not have any intel on Pain whatsoever? Pain would win pretty easily. However Sasuke with full intel on their abilities? Would win.. mid difficulty.
 

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Atleast counter my arguments... Sasuke gets stomped no-diff is beyond funny kid...

One Amaterasu would be enough for Deva... As his body would be to burned and hurt to fight after getting hit with Amaterasu... Those path's speed isn't impressive at all so there not taking Amaterasu for him by jumping in the way...
Cerberus got beat pretty easy by those 3frogs... Also Amaterasu one shots as it did in cannon... Like a said before Manda and Aoda stomps the rest of those summonings... Basho tenin will only get Deva path killed in the long run...


Let's be honest everybody was nerfed during that pain invasion arc... Kakashi could have one shotted Deva... Not to mention Team Gai wasen't even there Nor was Naruto when he blew the Village to pieces... Also we're clearly reading to different Manga's if you think Pain defeated SM Naruto...


Amaterasu one shots Cerberus... Manda and Aoda takes the rest of the summonings out with ease... That just ended the bottom half of your argument... The onther paths such as Human and Naraka are nearly useless... Also he can heat up that atmosphere with Amaterasu/Enton Kirin FTW...


Recharge???? Even if preta did absrob Amaterasu off Deva path's body it wouldn't matter because he'll be to damaged to fight...

Ready to hear your argument...
Was going to counter but then i saw that you said SM Naruto> Pain Yeaaahhh no,

LMl Ill perhaps have the energy to counter later, although seems like you're relying on Amertarasu a bit to much >.>
 

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Amaterasu one shots Cerberus...
At the cost of eye strain & at which point deva/preta atop the bird will swoop down for an attack or cerberus will be followed up by another summon.

Manda and Aoda takes the rest of the summonings out with ease...
First of all manda is dead. Secondly two snakes aren't taking out the giant ox, chameleon, rhino, crustacean, centipede, & bird.

Not to mention animal path can summon deva at any time to knock the summons back to Ryuchido, breaking their bones in the process.

That just ended the bottom half of your argument...
Does it though..?

The onther paths such as Human and Naraka are nearly useless... Also he can heat up that atmosphere with Amaterasu/Enton Kirin FTW...
Nearly useless isn't useless, all the more firepower helps. & Sasuke isn't heating up the atmosphere without burning his retinas out first.
 

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Funny how people think Sasuke can actually take this lol
Because he can, not everyone is blind to logic. OT sasuke has his chances. Aside deva and preta, the other paths are kinda fodder. Amaterasu and enton one shot the summonings, with info, he can quickly aim is arrow at the path that revives and kill it instantly, the problem would be deva and his bansho tenin combo.
 

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huh! what a misconception you have....! you are making it sound like paths would be just standing there doing nothing....! pain's strategy to to absorb any ninjutsu attacks via preta and yet you are saying preta path will do nothing and let sasuke burn every other path... lol...! i have a scenario too, preta and deva jump near sasuke, preta absorbs every single jutsu sasuke has and deva kills him right there game over....! paths were able to keep up with SM naruto's taijutsu other than frog kata...! so they have edge on sasuke in tai, kinjutsu....! these sasuke fanboys, always create a scenario in which opponent is just standing waiting to be burned even after madara disgraced the jutsu....! to beat MS sasuke all paths aren't even needed preta and deva are all you need so it's a stomp....!
 

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Pain wins mid difficulty at the most.

He can endlessly spam summonings right on top of Sasuke's Susano'o just like Jiraiya uses his Food Cart Destroyer technique. That would definitely wear down Sasuke's Susano'o, if not crush it outright. Sasuke's two summons get overwhelmed by Nagato's numerous summons.

If Sasuke tries to use black flames on the paths, then Preta Path goes up to the other path and absorbs the black flames off them. Then Naraka brings them back. Preta Path could also absorb Susano'o. In fact Preta Path absorbs almost anything Sasuke has except kirin and genjutsu.

Shinra Tensei or Preta Path > Susano'o arrows

Sasuke's genjutsu is not that strong so it shouldn't be an issue. Besides the paths can break each other out.

Kirin could only one-shot one of the paths (not all six at once) so it's pretty much useless for Sasuke to use kirin.

The best strategy to for Pain to take would probably be this:

1) Deva Path Shinra Tensei's animal path over to Sasuke
2) Animal Path summons Cerberus on top of Susano'o and practically crushes it with its weight
3) Animal Path summons Preta Path directly in front of Susano'o (people seem to forget animal path can summon the other paths)
4) Preta Path absorbs Susano'o
5) Asura spam finishes Sasuke
 

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You are talking like sasuke can spam his techniques throughout the battle..
What is this spamming you're talk about? Sasuke would need two to three techniques to end Deva Path with the knowledge he has...​

Amaterasu requires charge up time..
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Moreover sasuke isn't getting up after getting hit by ST in a matter of seconds
Because Sasuke can't defend himself from it correct?​

Even if deva gets hit he can repel the flames since he's. Jus a corpse
Do you know how long it took Nagato repel those flames with Shinra Tensei? that is more than enough time to put down Deva Path for good before he can repel the flames as Sasuke has knowledge in this battle.​

No way is sasuke prepping Kirin when he is constantly put on the defensive
No way even though the databook states all Sasuke has to do to prepare Kirin is use "a Fire Style such as Dragon Flames to quickly heat the air and create a violent rising current of air"?

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I'm tryin to imply tha deva and sasuke are relatively the same when I comes to taijutsu however with chakra rods and near instant ST/BT deva would be at an advantage
He also has backup from 5 other paths.
Again, Sasuke was exhausted when he fought Kakashi...so, there is absolutely no way you should come to the conclusion that Sasuke and Pain are in the same league when it comes to Taijutsu...

I don't know why this is hard for you to understand.​
 

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Sauskes chakara is infused within the lightning. It is plausible for Kirin to be able to be absorbed
No it isn't. Sasuke was out of Chakra for any technique:

- Itachi confirms it.

Kirin is Raw Lightening directed to the earth with Sasuke acting as the Lightening Rod:




Petra Path is fried, along with the rest of the the second it's prepped. As it does this:




All the paths are merked.
 
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