MS Madara neg diff MS Itachi

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Listen brother, if you do not understand what i wrote earlier explaining my points precisely then i will not bother anymore.

You do not even know the basic law of physics or basic law of energy. You cannot push someone to his limits by just sitting around in a corner, you have to invest alot of energy pushing that person to his limits while making sure you do not kill him. If you really think you can push someone to his limits "Pysically, mentally and in terms of chakra" easily then i have no words for you.

1. He wanted to fool Sasuke into thinking that itachi is a bad person and all he said was true, so that Sasuke has the intention of killing him, because itachi wanted to be punished too for his crimes.

2. Itachi beat 3x 3t sharingan users who were grown up without much problems in the manga when Sasuke was only like 4-5 years old.
You think itachi would have problem beating 1x 3t sharingan user who does not have the same experience and technics as the other 3 had.. really?

I could go on forever but i do not intend to my friend. Trust me keep reading through threads and you will see how the 2014 users sproud nonsense everywhere, well atleast most of them.

Firstly, you made me think of Hulk Hogan

Secondly, in that post you quoted, I didn't state that Sasuke pushed him to his limits. I said he pushed him. I probably should've said forced? Like how Naruto and Sasuke forced Zabuza to release Kakashi from the water prison jutsu.

Thirdly, you can push someone to their limits easily. That is if the gap between your respective skills is great enough.

Fourthly, I don't think Madara has fought and defeated many MS users so I guess you won't accept me using the logic you used in Number 3.
 

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You are in denial my son

Deep down you know that itachi solos Madara.
 

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how stupid are you, Itachi let Sasuke win, he could have Totsuka Blade blitzed him easily if he really wanted to

Totsuka blade has a range and can be dodged, plus your so called "totsuka blitz" (lmao) is fanfic here as it only sealed non-mobile characters, I didn't know Oro with half of his body in a giant snake in front of Itachi & non mobile off panel Nagato were really fast . Anyway 3t Madara takes this mid/high diff
 

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I believe so.


Whether you want to admit it or not, 3t Sasuke pushed Itachi to his limits. I can see 3t Madara destroying Itachi.

Not really.
It was 3t Sasuke, CS2 senjutsu(which obviously enhances speed/strength/reactions) + Orochimaru's and his giant 8 snake hydra.
And yet, by the end of the fight, Itachi had his susanoo out and Sasuke had literally nothing left to attack with, even his kunai were gone.

If you dont want to be part of troll, at least do your homework son.

And If he was serious, Sasuke was in tsukuyomi more than 1 second, hahah, he could've one shotted amaterasu or take out his susanoo and totsuka gg if tsukuyomi lasted more than like 10 seconds, which it did.

Itachi could've very well ended the fight in first minute, but he didnt.
The only reason 3t Sasuke pushed (probably 70% Health), Sick Itachi is because Itachi let him do it, simple as that.


featless 3t Madara/MS Madara is not beating MS Itachi.
Thats absurd, the amount of hype + feats Itachi has completely devours MS Madara.
MS Madara's only feat is getting destroyed mid-diff by Hashirama. Only EMS Madara was able to push Hashi to his limits, MS didnt do much. Tobirama could take him on at that point.

Dont Mistake 3t+ CS2 senjutsu Sasuke + Orochimaru attack Itachi without intent to win with a fight where 3t Madara would fight Itachi with intent to kill Madara.

Dont delude yourself.

Itachi would destroy him low-diff. MS Madara? featless, hypeless, only getting knocked down repeatedly easily by base Hashirama. MS Madara aint got shiet but vague hype, get real.
 
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^ 3t Madara has Izanagi and is better than Sasuke on every aspect .
Than 3t Sasuke or 3t + CS2 senjutsu?
And for all we know, all Madara can use is Fire, at 3t, while Sasuke is proficient in both Fire/Lightning,given he also has sometwhat senjutsu power, I doubt 3t Madara is "better in every aspect".

every madara till EMS is pretty much just hype. Katon + kenjutsu mastery +taijutsu is only going to get you so far.
L.E.: And susanoo @ MS ^^
We dont even have any feats for his MS left/right eye skills. wtf man
 
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^ 3t Madara has Izanagi and is better than Sasuke on every aspect .

So much ignorance in this post....

MS itachi has all MS madara techniques plus:
Izanami, amatueasu, totska blade, yata mirror, tsukiyomi, and KA in his arsenal.

Now please tell me how the hell MS Madara will even have a chance? He had no chance. Itachi will outsmart him with a much bigger arsenal.

The only thing madara has over itachi is stamina. Pointless to have if you don't have power to back it up.
 

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So much ignorance in this post....

MS itachi has all MS madara techniques plus:
Izanami, amatueasu, totska blade, yata mirror, tsukiyomi, and KA in his arsenal.

Now please tell me how the hell MS Madara will even have a chance? He had no chance. Itachi will outsmart him with a much bigger arsenal.

The only thing madara has over itachi is stamina. Pointless to have if you don't have power to back it up.

Poor Itachi fanboy . That's nice to pull out all Itachi's arsenal here yet you didn't mention his mediocre stamina. 2t Madara has katon izanagi and is better than Sasuke in every aspect he stomps mid-high diff.
 

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Poor Itachi fanboy . That's nice to pull out all Itachi's arsenal here yet you didn't mention his mediocre stamina. 2t Madara has katon izanagi and is better than Sasuke in every aspect he stomps mid-high diff.

What media core stamina you dimwitted madara fan boy?

Itachi spammed amaturasu six times on a large scale, used amaturasu, blocked kirin, sealed oro and his summon, spammed for style, used tsukiyomi and had full susanoo on longer than MS sasuke ever did on his.....DEATH BED.

Now that is some amazing stamina for a person who is pretty much dead.


And that tells me that MS Madara has no chance against a healthy itachi. Even a half dead itachi can beat and crap on him. What is madara going to do? Use suanoo? Amaturasu will burn his susanoo up and totska will Peirce through it and seal ms madara.

Stop arguing already. Your like the blindest Madara fanboy and itachi hater I've seen here so far. I loose hope in the base sometimes because of people like you.
 

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So much ignorance in this post....

MS itachi has all MS madara techniques plus:
Izanami, amatueasu, totska blade, yata mirror, tsukiyomi, and KA in his arsenal.

Now please tell me how the hell MS Madara will even have a chance? He had no chance. Itachi will outsmart him with a much bigger arsenal.

The only thing madara has over itachi is stamina. Pointless to have if you don't have power to back it up.

Izanami takes a long time to cast. Also Itachi is not going to piss an eye away to use it on an opponent unless he is desperate.

Tsukiyomi can be broken and reversed by a full blood Uchiha as demonstrated by Sasuke.

Itachi's amaterasu isn't all that great. Sasuke managed to outrun it and substitution his way out of danger of it. It consumes too much chakra for a person like Itachi (who has low stamina) to use unless he is desperate.

We've never see two susanno fight. No telling if the totsuka blade of Itachi's susanno will pierce the chakra shield of Madara Perfect Susanno. Madara's EMS Susanno is giant and could probably step on Itachi's.

Yata Mirror is a non factor unless Madara uses fire style. The mirror adapts to nature configurations of the attacks it's blocking. In a susanno battle between Madara and Itachi; we don't know what the effects of the etheral weapons of each susanno would have on one another.

KA is Shisui's jutsu. If we are including that, then Madara should have Hashirama's cells and subsequently the rinnegan. At which point Madara just pulls a metorite from orbit and bring it down on Itachi.

Against such overwhelming force, Itachi just can't go the distance with Madara with the level of power he displayed against Hebi Sasuke.
 

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I'm arguing against idiots who have never read the manga here lol...


They think that Itachi tried to kill sasuke LOL.
 

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What media core stamina you dimwitted madara fan boy?

Itachi spammed amaturasu six times on a large scale, used amaturasu, blocked kirin, sealed oro and his summon, spammed for style, used tsukiyomi and had full susanoo on longer than MS sasuke ever did on his.....DEATH BED.

Now that is some amazing stamina for a person who is pretty much dead.


And that tells me that MS Madara has no chance against a healthy itachi. Even a half dead itachi can beat and crap on him. What is madara going to do? Use suanoo? Amaturasu will burn his susanoo up and totska will Peirce through it and seal ms madara.

Stop arguing already. Your like the blindest Madara fanboy and itachi hater I've seen here so far. I loose hope in the base sometimes because of people like you.

MS Madara fought Hashirama multiples times for days even before his EMS acquisition. 1) ,

2)Amaterasu burning Susano'o ? Lmao please let it scratch Madara's own body first.

3)If you knew more about you'll know how much I like Sasuke and Itachi but I despise weak ass fanboys like you . You're really a weak ass debater to enter personals insults after your 2 post of debates , 2t Madara takes this mid diff cry more or counter me .
 

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MS Madara fought Hashirama multiples times for days even before his EMS acquisition. 1) ,

2)Amaterasu burning Susano'o ? Lmao please let it scratch Madara's own body first.

3)If you knew more about you'll know how much I like Sasuke and Itachi but I despise weak ass fanboys like you . You're really a weak ass debater to enter personals insults after your 2 post of debates , 2t Madara takes this mid diff cry more or counter me .

I love Madara, just like you love Itachi. Madara is my fav but I hate Itachi. Madara is a retard and Itachi is a beast.

Do you see how retarded your claims are? "I like Itachi but 2t Madara solo".

try harder, you're a weak troll, back under the bridge with you.
 

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I'm arguing against idiots who have never read the manga here lol...


They think that Itachi tried to kill sasuke LOL.
Whatever helps you cope. Sasuke proved he was better than Itachi in several places during their battle. Hell the only reason Itachi didn't die sooner against Sasuke is because Itachi had the MS jutsu to fall back on. Had it been 3 tomoe Itachi vs 3 tomoe Sasuke, Sasuke would've won a lot sooner than he did.
 

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Whatever helps you cope. Sasuke proved he was better than Itachi in several places during their battle. Hell the only reason Itachi didn't die sooner against Sasuke is because Itachi had the MS jutsu to fall back on. Had it been 3 tomoe Itachi vs 3 tomoe Sasuke, Sasuke would've won a lot sooner than he did.

Healthy 3t Itachi would blitz 3t Sasuke + CS2 and kill him in no time. wtf are you talking about kid.
Where was Sasuke better than Itachi? Bukijutsu, Itachi, Kenjutsu, Itachi, Genjutsu, Itachi, Ninjutsu, Itachi, speed, Itachi.

And ironically, in the end, he still had more stamina and was able to hold susanoo while Sasuke, with Orochimaru + CS2 had no stamina/chakra left.
 

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MS Madara fought Hashirama multiples times for days even before his EMS acquisition. 1) ,

2)Amaterasu burning Susano'o ? Lmao please let it scratch Madara's own body first.

3)If you knew more about you'll know how much I like Sasuke and Itachi but I despise weak ass fanboys like you . You're really a weak ass debater to enter personals insults after your 2 post of debates , 2t Madara takes this mid diff cry more or counter me .

I am pretty sure I owned you in the last post because all you did was reply to only two of my argument and decide to ignore everything else I said.

If madara uses susanoo, Itachi can use amaturasu on it. Since amaturasu burns chakra at an extremely fast rate madara will have to pour allot of chakra to maintain his susanoo. Eventually he will run out of chakra due to the rate that amaturasu burns chakra.

We know a fight between uchiha will be susanoo vs susanoo. We also know that Itachi susanoo curb stomps MS madaras susanoo. How hard is it to grasp? Madara uses MS susanoo and then itachi uses totska blade to Peirce it and seal madara. Stamina is no issue for itachi. We have seen him display good stamina while being close to death. When healthy he has more than enough chakra to destroy madara.

I just don't see it. I don't at all. Your only argument of why Madara wins is stamina. But Itachi has the best MS techniques and legendary weapons to go with it. Itachi susanoo>>>>>>>>madara susanoo. Itachi stamina is not a factor since itachi can force Madara to tire himself out or burn to death.
 
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