[Discussion] Movement against Chinese Dog eating festival

[HashiraMadara]

There are thousands of dogs that perish in the name of culture and heritage every year. Eating dog used to be a standard well accepted tradition among the Chinese, with heavy western influence this feat seems to be running on low fanbase. In an effort to scrape the bottom of the barrel, a festival was created to hold onto the almost gone taste of man's best friend among the Chinese.

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Westerners though have brought enough influence in hoping to exterminate the culture. I on my opinion find this very hypocritical. Why is it someone's matter on which food the Chinese prefer to eat? Millions of pigs are destroyed every year in the name of delicious bacon and don't use "they are barbarically treated" because battery farming is far more worse.

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I personally have no problems with Chinese eat whatever they eat because they don't tell anyone to NOT eat anything based on naive "sentimental" values. Ever heard Indians protesting for people to not eat beef? I didn't think so. This Western hypocrisy needs to stop.

What is your view on this.

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[Belserion]

But eating dogs is not Part of the Chinese culture and it is also prohibited.

It was prohibited because of the Bad conditions the dogs had to go through. We don't skin or cook pigs here while they are alive.

People here protest against the cruelty of some Chinese people not the actual fact that they eat dogs.

Oh and you can believe me. Eat beef only once in India and they will beat you to death.

 

[Greedie]

I agree it's very hypocritical.

Iv'e grown up around dogs my whole life and current have two rottweilers so i'm a bit bias on the subject but as long as they aren't raised/living in horrible conditions i can't really say much since i eat other animals who have most likely been brought up in similar conditions.

But to see any animals stuffed into cages like the first pic always saddens me.

 

[Mari Makinami]

I always thought that eating dogs was a Korean thing lol.

OT: humans ate mammals all though our history and it is normal no matter what vegetarian/vegan propaganda says. Excluding specific kinds of food due to different tastes or various religious/ethical traditions is fine, but if those who do it want other people to respect their views, they should respect views of other people as well.

 

[HashiraMadara]

But eating dogs is not Part of the Chinese culture and it is also prohibited.
It was prohibited because of the Bad conditions the dogs had to go through. We don't skin or cook pigs here while they are alive.


People here protest against the cruelty of some Chinese people not the actual fact that they eat dogs.

Have you ever seen the effects and cruelty of battery farming? How do you cook a alive dog btw

 

[Flakez]

Indeed, they can eat whatever they want. I personally wouldn't eat a dog, but I don't care if you like eating one.

It's not like they came to your country and started eating your dogs. There's a vietnamese guy living next to me, and he's told me that eating dogs was pretty normal in Vietnam, but wouldn't do it here as it's generally not accepted.

 

[sasukesworld]

Those are two completely different things.

Yes, we eat pigs and so on, but we make sure (as good as we can) that they don't feel pain. Here, they get electroshocked, so they dont feel anything (as far as I know).
Sure, factory farming is an issue, no one can deny that.
But more and more people are buying meat from bio concerns.

The dog festival is just gruesome. They don't care about the animals at all.

 

[Belserion]

Have you ever seen the effects and cruelty of battery farming? How do you cook a alive dog btw

Your whataboutism is not helping you here.
Eating dogs is still prohibited in China and the actual "festival" is illegal.

So tell me again what makes the actual protest against something that is illegal no sense or is hypocritical?

I do understand your point- meat is meat- but do you even Know why the Dog eating Festival is illegal? Do you know where the dogs came from? Most of them were owned by people and were stolen.

There is a small difference between animals that grew up in captivity and animals that grew up in families. You don't want your child to be kidnapped and eaten by some weirdos right?

And about that cooking thing, I meant boilt alive

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[Lyke]

Idc i dont like animals

 

[HashiraMadara]

Those are two completely different things.

Yes, we eat pigs and so on, but we make sure (as good as we can) that they don't feel pain. Here, they get electroshocked, so they dont feel anything (as far as I know).
Sure, factory farming is an issue, no one can deny that.
The dog festival is just gruesome. They don't care about the animals at all.

A load hypocrisy I was addressing in this thread on.
He mentions how they had to feel less pain etc, forgetting that's only done in front of inspectors. After they leave, it's back to slaughtering chasing numbers' method of killing.

Secondly you leave battery farming on whim saying more people buy live etc.
But more and more people are buying meat from bio concerns. If you do your research you'll find only a few of the privileged buy an up-brought meat even in your country. Overwhelming majority still does it with the cheap, easily gettable factory meat.

Thirdly why in the world would a taser be a feared weapon if shocking someone isn't gruesome.
You spoke like a typical first world care free person: 'Your side is either right or better". Simply upgrading methods of killing to reduce the crying sounds etc don't made any difference.

 

[Lyke]

You spoke like a typical first world care free person: 'Your side is either right or better". Simply upgrading methods of killing to reduce the crying sounds etc don't made any difference.

Lol ikr

 

[Belserion]

A load hypocrisy I was addressing in this thread on.
He mentions how they had to feel less pain etc, forgetting that's only done in front of inspectors. After they leave, it's back to slaughtering chasing numbers' method of killing.

Secondly you leave battery farming on whim saying more people buy live etc.
But more and more people are buying meat from bio concerns. If you do your research you'll find only a few of the privileged buy an up-brought meat even in your country. Overwhelming majority still does it with the cheap, easily gettable factory meat.

Thirdly why in the world would a taser be a feared weapon is shocking someone isn't gruesome.
You spoke like a typical first world care free person: 'Your side is either right or better". Simply upgrading methods of killing to reduce the crying sounds etc don't made any difference.

Do you have a source that proves your assumption?
Only doing that infront of Inspectors that is.

 

[HashiraMadara]

Your whataboutism is not helping you here.
Eating dogs is still prohibited in China and the actual "festival" is illegal.

So tell me again what makes the actual protest against something that is illegal no sense or is hypocritical?

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You're miss informed, the Festival is not illegally. They were simply asked to do their utmost best to kill them humanely which to me is relative on its own.
I do understand your point- meat is meat- but do you even Know why the Dog eating Festival is illegal? Do you know where the dogs came from? Most of them were owned by people and were stolen.
Not all these dogs are stolen. That's relative and using most is in some way propaganda, "who links a missing dog to a captured and eaten dog to form this stat"?

There is a small difference between animals that grew up in captivity and animals that grew up in families. You don't want your child to be kidnapped and eaten by some weirdos right?

A child, when did it compare to a child? Just because you hold a dog dear why should others put the same sentiments.

And about that cooking thing, I meant boilt alive

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How's that different from this:

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I am not seeing any protest on that compared to the dog one.

 

[HashiraMadara]

Do you have a source that proves your assumption?
Only doing that infront of Inspectors that is.

Nope I just based it on my understanding of human psychology. Humans will only up the standards during inspections and when they are gone they continue with the "as many we can guys because the demand is on high"...

But since you asked I dug this up:

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[Оdin]

I don't see the problem. We kill millions of pigs, cows, chickens (etc...) for food but Asians can't eat dogs or cats because people find them adorable and the act of killing them for food is somehow "inhumane". Bunch of dirty, stinking hypocrites.

 

[Belserion]

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You're miss informed, the Festival is not illegally. They were simply asked to do their utmost best to kill them humanely which to me is relative on its own.
I do understand your point- meat is meat- but do you even Know why the Dog eating Festival is illegal? Do you know where the dogs came from? Most of them were owned by people and were stolen.
Not all these dogs are stolen. That's relative and using most is in some way propaganda, "who links a missing dog to a captured and eaten dog to form this stat"?

A child, when did it compare to a child? Just because you hold a dog dear why should others put the same sentiments. [/B][/COLOR]

How's that different from this:

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I am not seeing any protest on that compared to the dog one.

This guy is brainwashed at it's best! Lmao.
He is bringing up Wikipedia while Chinese friends of mine said that eating dogs is illegal. That makes the Festival illegal too.

You are clearly brainwashed by the media as you have no idea how the Western Culture works. We do not act all Kind and nice infront of spectators. People here in Germany protest against Helal Meat do you really believe any meat Company would risk to kill those animals under the same conditions as Chinese people do with dogs?

Ohhh, look. Not all dogs are stolen so it's ok. You are being a hypocrit yourself. To most people dogs are Part of the family. My father cried 1 week straight after our dog died. You never owned a dog so you cant judge. And sure as hell you have no idea how the West works.

 

[sasukesworld]

A load hypocrisy I was addressing in this thread on.
He mentions how they had to feel less pain etc, forgetting that's only done in front of inspectors. After they leave, it's back to slaughtering chasing numbers' method of killing.

Secondly you leave battery farming on whim saying more people buy live etc.
But more and more people are buying meat from bio concerns. If you do your research you'll find only a few of the privileged buy an up-brought meat even in your country. Overwhelming majority still does it with the cheap, easily gettable factory meat.

Thirdly why in the world would a taser be a feared weapon is shocking someone isn't gruesome.
You spoke like a typical first world care free person: 'Your side is either right or better". Simply upgrading methods of killing to reduce the crying sounds etc don't made any difference.

Not really, they shock them regardless if there's an inspector or not.
Coincidentally I know someones father who works as an inspector, and he would know (electricity bills would be higher if an inspector is there for example) (ofc I only know from he concerns he works with^^).

Yes, because the government don't support those bio concerns as much as they support the others. They're heavily influenced by lobbyists. At least people buy bio products if they can. If they would cost as much as the others, more and more people would buy bio products.
Now they don't do it because they have more for their money if they bus cheap (which is obvious).

Because it's fast and they don't feel anything?
That's the most human way after gasing them. =D
After all, we breed and feed them so that we can eat them. So we try to kill them as human as possible. Other than on the festival were the dogs feel everything.

Don't you see the difference?

Lol ikr

Like you have any argument, ever. :lol
All you do is typing something for laughs, because that's what you are, a joke.

 

[Wabbit]

Dogs are humans like companions and specifically they are not domesticated for food or people think like that about dogs and also cats so you see these eating some one who is your companion and feel they are subhumans.


Only valid arrangement I think could be made is some type of meat production is inefficient and it harms environment. Many countries have massive stray dog problem and also hunger. If they start eating dogs they could solve both problem at once. But people dont want practical solution they rather do SJWing and not kill dogs at all let the problem multiply and people die in hunger.

Those are two completely different things.

Yes, we eat pigs and so on, but we make sure (as good as we can) that they don't feel pain. Here, they get electroshocked, so they dont feel anything (as far as I know).

what? Germany does not have halal food?

 

[Belserion]

Nope I just based it on my understanding of human psychology. Humans will only up the standards during inspections and when they are gone they continue with the "as many we can guys because the demand is on high"...

But since you asked I dug this up:

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SpiegelOnline is probably the worst source someone could bring up as it is as pathetic as "Bild.de" they are being biased towards certain topics and they tried to corrupt our meat Companies here in Germany for years.

And the article does not refer anything to what I asked for. So...

 

[sasukesworld]

Dogs are humans like companions and specifically they are not domesticated for food or people think like that about dogs and also cats so you see these eating some one who is your companion and feel they are subhumans.


Only valid arrangement I think could be made is some type of meat production is inefficient and it harms environment. Many countries have massive stray dog problem and also hunger. If they start eating dogs they could solve both problem at once. But people dont want practical solution they rather do SJWing and not kill dogs at all let the problem multiply and people die in hunger.



what? Germany does not have halal food?

Hahah XD
Sadly we have...

On you statement "they rather do SJWing and not kill dogs at all let the problem multiply and people die in hunger."
I would never eat a dog (except there wouldn't be anything else to eat), but that would be one solution to solve the problem.
In many east european countries they have huge problems with stray dogs, so they just kill them (not humanely).
To neuter them would cost too much money..

SpiegelOnline is probably the worst source someone could bring up as it is as pathetic as "Bild.de" they are being biased towards certain topics and they tried to corrupt our meat Companies here in Germany for years.

And the article does not refer anything to what I asked for. So...

So true. xD SpiegelOline is a laughable source, just shows how uninformed he is.^^
Didn't know you were from Germany.^^