Most Powerful Hokage

Most Powerful Hokage


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jimmyloyola

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well that was a long time back na when kishi gave the interview na...things have changed..back then 1st and 2nd looked really weak..now its different..but ofcourse its kishi we talking about....

4th on top..not a surpirse :p
 

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4th XD he made the future strongest shinobi XD
he was the first person introduced in the manga XD

well that was a long time back na when kishi gave the interview na...things have changed..back then 1st and 2nd looked really weak..now its different..but ofcourse its kishi we talking about....

4th on top..not a surpirse :p

i know right i would have put hashirama and tobirama faaaar behind than 1st and 2nd back then but 1st can win against the 3rd imo but sadly one has to be last and i have to give that place to tobirama
 

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I think Shodaime. He ended a war, formed his own village, had a Kekkei Genkai and beat Madara.
me also going with first :p he kicked madaras ass..madara now might be stronger..but madara is madara na :p
First ended a war? Fourth was so awesome, the enemy (no matter how powerful) were told to flee on sight of him (no matter what!). And I'm pretty sure he was the main reason that one war ended.
The first formed the village? The fourth stopped the Kyuubi's chakra blast from destroying the village (which is more than Tsunade did; she may have saved the village, but the Fourth stopped the threat before it destroyed the village). The fourth also created the Rasengan, Flying Thunder God, the Dead Demon Reaper seal, and he was jsut awesome.
First had a Kekkei Genkai? Fourth had Flying Thunder God, and 'Flee-on-sight' orders (wood-style doesn't match up to that).
First kicked Madara's ass? So did the Fourth, except he did it when Madara was older, meaning he had more experience, more knowledge and battle tactics, and when Madara had the First's DNA (he also beat the crap out of Madara while protecting the village from the fox, and keeping his wife and son generally safe; the first just fought with no restrictions).
Minato Namikaze was the best Hokage ever (and the third was stated to be the best in his prime, but A) Minato never made it to his prime, and B) The third used the fourth's jutsu to beat the first, second, and oro, which means that it was the fourth's jutsu and battle tactics that won, so it was pretty much the fourth who beat them).
 

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THe THIRD HOKAGE FOREVER he not only surpassed his teachers but had the longest reign
even in old age he was able to govern konoha the best and gave orochimaru a headache
the fourth would have surpassed him if only he had lived longer and also he was the student of hiruzen's student
 

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And one more thing guys u missed the greatest hokage of them all or who will be uzumaki naruto (the orange hokage - the golden flash of the leaf)
 

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@Sharingdork - Madara got his asssss whooped and was a shittttyy version of the Madara that got whooped by Shodaime. The 4th versed a weak version of Madara.

Flying Thunder GOD? Its a seal and Shodaime whooped Madara who had an even better S/T Ninjutsu.

Mokuton would whoop on FTG because he needs seals to transfer

The 4th was in his prime when he obtained Hokage. The 4ths Jutsu?
You are a complete loser a trying to belittle fiction characters to make another sound more awesome and for that you deserve the ultimate... :flaw:

I don't hate the 4th, He's just overrated when comparing feats to other Hokage's.

3rd in his prime would wipe the 4th like his toilet paper.

NOTE: My fav Hokage is the 2nd becoz he made the Uchiha shhiit!
 

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First ended a war? Fourth was so awesome, the enemy (no matter how powerful) were told to flee on sight of him (no matter what!). And I'm pretty sure he was the main reason that one war ended.
The first formed the village? The fourth stopped the Kyuubi's chakra blast from destroying the village (which is more than Tsunade did; she may have saved the village, but the Fourth stopped the threat before it destroyed the village). The fourth also created the Rasengan, Flying Thunder God, the Dead Demon Reaper seal, and he was jsut awesome.
First had a Kekkei Genkai? Fourth had Flying Thunder God, and 'Flee-on-sight' orders (wood-style doesn't match up to that).
First kicked Madara's ass? So did the Fourth, except he did it when Madara was older, meaning he had more experience, more knowledge and battle tactics, and when Madara had the First's DNA (he also beat the crap out of Madara while protecting the village from the fox, and keeping his wife and son generally safe; the first just fought with no restrictions).
Minato Namikaze was the best Hokage ever (and the third was stated to be the best in his prime, but A) Minato never made it to his prime, and B) The third used the fourth's jutsu to beat the first, second, and oro, which means that it was the fourth's jutsu and battle tactics that won, so it was pretty much the fourth who beat them).
I'm sorry to point this out my friend. the first did end a war in the sense that when the senju and the uchiha made a truce and formed a village, this started a chain reaction with all the other clans which eventually made the one country one village system.
the fourth had flee on sight orders but as i remember correctly there were still dozens of missions that were made then not only the one that we saw.
it was predicted that konoha would emerge victorious and there was said to be many amazing stories that sprung from that time such as kakashi of the sharingan, konoha's yellow flash.
when madara and the first fought, both were at full power. even madara admitted that he never came out of that fight with the first as strong as he was before. though strategy plays a key role in battle, you still need to account the battle capacity of the people.
though i agree that the fourth is better but not for the reasons you've said.
i believe he is better simply because a recurring theme is that the newer generation surpasses the old one. the fourth is the best so far since tsunade doesn't really have that much capabilities.
 

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4th as someone already pointed out hiruzen's 1000 jutsu, hashiramas wood and tobiramas water dont match up against FTG

all hokage seem to stand out a bit from other kage though
 

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Ok first of all we can't actually decide... why? we don't know enough... we haven't actually seen them fight except for old Hiruzen and Minato a little.
All of you going : "The first beat Madara had that and did that, he was known for that..." yea but have you ever seen any of this? NO they are all STORIES... and we have seen that we can't take everything characters in the manga say for real. If he was so strong why is Madara still alive?
About the second we know even less... only that he created edo tensei, was the best water jutsu user and had space time jutsu... this sohuld make him the strongest however he isn't mostly because you fangurls haven't heard anyone talking about him that much, or fear him, or mentioning him doing something awsome.
The third? yea he was great but all of you saying The Third in his prime... do you know what he was capable of back then? NO you are just assuming... with age comes experience and that's why he was the master of all jutsu and had plenty of battle experience, because he was OLD.... so we should be talking about the Hiruzen we know, not the one we all assume to be the best, the greatest ... etc. in his prime.
The fourth... yea he couldn't kill Madara... but take into account that he was fighting a "perfect Madara" with the First Hokage cells. He lost and arm, got punched with a rasengan and yet he doesn't even have a scratch... I agree that he was not at the same strength as he was when he fought The First however we don't know what powers he had back then.... maybe he didn't have his space/time jutsu, or his phasing abilities... how can you prove that he had any of that back then? you CAN'T
Tsunade yea she is weak in combat, but she can do what no ninja was capable of doing so far, protecting the entire village, and saving people's lives in front of an enemy that no one could have stopped. (if you can prove that any Kage could have stopped Shinra Tensei then i agree with you and +rep xd and don't take me with "if Minato,The First, The third was there he wouldn't have had time to do it... " yea he would, he could have done it before anyone had even realized.) So she is not that weak as some of you think.
And Danzou... can't tell that much... i don't know how good he could handle against more enemies at once... i mean he lost to Sasuke who was just getting used to his MS jutsu. He was strong, but i doubt he was up there with the other Heroes...
So in My opinion... taking into account WHAT we do know FOR SURE i would say Minato is the greatest and strongest... even Kishi said that The Fourth and The Third are the strongest Hokage ever. So because of old age i choose Minato.
 

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sarutobi was known as the god of shinobi. they don't call first or second or any other hokage a god. and if you look at what first hokage did, third being called a god is a proof of his strength.
 

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The third? yea he was great but all of you saying The Third in his prime... do you know what he was capable of back then? NO you are just assuming... with age comes experience and that's why he was the master of all jutsu and had plenty of battle experience, because he was OLD.... so we should be talking about the Hiruzen we know, not the one we all assume to be the best, the greatest ... etc. in his prime.
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wheres the proof he only learned all the jutsu when he was old? oro said "hahahaha... you, who were called the professor for knowing and being able to use all the jutsu that exist in the leaf... please don't disappoint me too much" (right before sarutobi blows the hokage's legs off) and oro had been a missing nin for around 12 years at that point so he would had to have that title while he was still reigning hokage first time around and not super old.

and if you read the fight literally everyone but the sound 4 comment about how his age has affected his power, orochimaru especially states it through the fight and he was sarutobi's student so hes the most reliable source of anyone, "You've grown old, haven't you... i've never seen you strain so much..."

and "it's so pitiful, you know... even you, he who was hailed as the god of the shinobi cannot defeat old age."http://www.narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/121/3

whole fight is about how much more powerful his young self was, so i say we know the prime would be called the strongest, imo its just not fair to compare the old 3rd's power to the prime 1st and young 4th's because we have proof over and over his skills at 62 were pathetic compared to his skill at their ages.
 
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Ok first of all we can't actually decide... why? we don't know enough... we haven't actually seen them fight except for old Hiruzen and Minato a little.
All of you going : "The first beat Madara had that and did that, he was known for that..." yea but have you ever seen any of this? NO they are all STORIES... and we have seen that we can't take everything characters in the manga say for real. If he was so strong why is Madara still alive?
About the second we know even less... only that he created edo tensei, was the best water jutsu user and had space time jutsu... this sohuld make him the strongest however he isn't mostly because you fangurls haven't heard anyone talking about him that much, or fear him, or mentioning him doing something awsome.
The third? yea he was great but all of you saying The Third in his prime... do you know what he was capable of back then? NO you are just assuming... with age comes experience and that's why he was the master of all jutsu and had plenty of battle experience, because he was OLD.... so we should be talking about the Hiruzen we know, not the one we all assume to be the best, the greatest ... etc. in his prime.
The fourth... yea he couldn't kill Madara... but take into account that he was fighting a "perfect Madara" with the First Hokage cells. He lost and arm, got punched with a rasengan and yet he doesn't even have a scratch... I agree that he was not at the same strength as he was when he fought The First however we don't know what powers he had back then.... maybe he didn't have his space/time jutsu, or his phasing abilities... how can you prove that he had any of that back then? you CAN'T
Tsunade yea she is weak in combat, but she can do what no ninja was capable of doing so far, protecting the entire village, and saving people's lives in front of an enemy that no one could have stopped. (if you can prove that any Kage could have stopped Shinra Tensei then i agree with you and +rep xd and don't take me with "if Minato,The First, The third was there he wouldn't have had time to do it... " yea he would, he could have done it before anyone had even realized.) So she is not that weak as some of you think.
And Danzou... can't tell that much... i don't know how good he could handle against more enemies at once... i mean he lost to Sasuke who was just getting used to his MS jutsu. He was strong, but i doubt he was up there with the other Heroes...
So in My opinion... taking into account WHAT we do know FOR SURE i would say Minato is the greatest and strongest... even Kishi said that The Fourth and The Third are the strongest Hokage ever. So because of old age i choose Minato.
O_O TOOo LONG!!! DlD NOT READ!!!!!!!!!!
 

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This is a complicated question to answer. Each hokage is the best at different things. IMO the first but its all in how you take a look at things. Sorry for the terrible comparison (like REALLY terrible :( ) but its like trying to decide which pokemon type is the best, they all have strengths and weaknesses b/c of this , there is no definite answer if you dont know exactly the levels of the pokemon (hokages xd) battling. Which we dont really know the "level" of strength of each hokage
Sharingdork is right, we are not sure of really anything on any other hokage's so it is logical that many of you chose 4th :p but based on overall achievements i'd go with the first. and as for the best jutsu(s), the third gotta win. and im sure 2nd has some strong point that i fail to see...
 
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