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The logic of a character getting other character's chakra means he has that character's power to. uh no.

Prime example HASHIRAMA'S DNA (not pure Senju dna).

Obito: Hashi dna, Rinnegan, MS

Madara: Hashi dna, Rinnegan , EMS

People seem to think, that since Madara has Hashirama's dna aka Mokuton.. he can basically do all the stuff Hashirama can... uh no. As we all know Madara can't do Hashirama's "Thousand Hand" technique.. why? Because PS is his strongest.

Obito, is not even CLOSE to their power level.... sure he has the rinnegan.. but I ask you this.. which living user of rinnegan has used the Rinnegan themselves and was OP? Not even Nagato.. Nagato became the so called "God" when he took got the Paths. Its pretty evident that Rinnegan techniques take a toll on the user... Nagato however was good with the Paths because he himself was not moving around... but even then the rinnegan took a toll on him. People use things like Shinra tensei and Chibaku tensei to defend living moving Nagato.. to prove hes OP as hell and on Hashirama and Madara level.. but they don't realize how much chakra those techniques take. And his OP technique is Kamui.. which can be avoided by Wood clones.. Subsitution jutsus....hell Mokuton itself. But lets all remember.. if Obito Kamui's someone.. he can't use Kamui again =].


Madara, has Mokuton true.. and he has Perfect susano'o and Rinnegan.. and hes a Edo on top of that. But since we are comparing LIVING Hashirama.. we have to make this Madara Uchiha living to. Even if we do compare the Edo Madara.. there is clear power difference in just their chakras...



My point is.. just cause character A has Character B's dna.. does not mean he is automatically stronger then Character B because he now has his power and on top of that his own.
 

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It's 10:30 at night. Do you honestly think I'm going to read that?
 

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Hashi can't touch Obito.

Cant kill what you can't touch.

Obito > Hashi
 

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Hashi can't touch Obito.

Cant kill what you can't touch.

Obito > Hashi
When Obito can tell the difference between Hashi's wood clones...... we will talk ;] Touching Obito is not hard.. he kamui's Hashi wood clone.. Hashirama forces Obito to Kamui again.. and then the clone in other dimension finishes off Obito.. Good?
Dont think he gives a shit to be honest.

I really don't lol.
 

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hashirama will just auto heal lol
 

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Nagato still stomps Hashi dude

Same with Tobito

They have the better matchup, GET OUT OF DENIAL BRO
 

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People still believe Edo Madara's mokuton is on the same level as Hashirama's? Shame :|.

Let's not even get into Hashirama when he's using Sage Mode...
 

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Original > Users with his dna
Made a thread about this a week ago and everyone agreed. Madara's mokuton is just a knock off compared to Hashi's.
Anyone with Hashirama's dna simply has a fraction of his power.
 

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People still believe Edo Madara's mokuton is on the same level as Hashirama's? Shame :|.

Let's not even get into Hashirama when he's using Sage Mode...

I don't see why not...? All of the Mokuton techs Madara used were on the same level.

The only difference is in the number of jutsu, which Hashi has a few stronger ones on the side (Wood God, Thousand Hands)
 

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People still believe Edo Madara's mokuton is on the same level as Hashirama's? Shame :|.

Let's not even get into Hashirama when he's using Sage Mode...
Sadly they do. X_X

He doesn't have Sage Mode ;x.

Nagato still stomps Hashi dude

Same with Tobito

They have the better matchup, GET OUT OF DENIAL BRO

They can't even tell which one is the real hashirama... lmao.
 

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I wanna say Madara CAN use Buddha's Wood, but Mokuton isn't his natural KKG. The same thing as Kakashi. The Sharingan isn't his, so he can't control it as well, but can still use techniques that an Uchiha can.
 

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Obito can't use kamui after using it on someone else? What?! He used it on sasuke and still using it. obito solo's both hashi and madara. :p.
 

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it`s correct but not in edo madara`s case IMO.because kabuto said that edo madara is like madara and hashirama combined,which probably means that kabuto modified madara so that he can use the full extent of hashi`s powers.i think he can use that thousand hands technique,but he didnt try it yet
 

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Sadly they do. X_X

He doesn't have Sage Mode ;x.



They can't even tell which one is the real hashirama... lmao.

How will a tree ever touch Nagato when he's flying?

How will Hashi ever touch Obito with his Kamui?

FACE IT, IT'S THE MATCHUPS MAN
 

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The logic of a character getting other character's chakra means he has that character's power to. uh no.

Prime example HASHIRAMA'S DNA (not pure Senju dna).

Obito: Hashi dna, Rinnegan, MS

Madara: Hashi dna, Rinnegan , EMS

People seem to think, that since Madara has Hashirama's dna aka Mokuton.. he can basically do all the stuff Hashirama can... uh no. As we all know Madara can't do Hashirama's "Thousand Hand" technique.. why? Because PS is his strongest.

Obito, is not even CLOSE to their power level.... sure he has the rinnegan.. but I ask you this.. which living user of rinnegan has used the Rinnegan themselves and was OP? Not even Nagato.. Nagato became the so called "God" when he took got the Paths. Its pretty evident that Rinnegan techniques take a toll on the user... Nagato however was good with the Paths because he himself was not moving around... but even then the rinnegan took a toll on him. People use things like Shinra tensei and Chibaku tensei to defend living moving Nagato.. to prove hes OP as hell and on Hashirama and Madara level.. but they don't realize how much chakra those techniques take. And his OP technique is Kamui.. which can be avoided by Wood clones.. Subsitution jutsus....hell Mokuton itself. But lets all remember.. if Obito Kamui's someone.. he can't use Kamui again =].


Madara, has Mokuton true.. and he has Perfect susano'o and Rinnegan.. and hes a Edo on top of that. But since we are comparing LIVING Hashirama.. we have to make this Madara Uchiha living to. Even if we do compare the Edo Madara.. there is clear power difference in just their chakras...



My point is.. just cause character A has Character B's dna.. does not mean he is automatically stronger then Character B because he now has his power and on top of that his own.

FALSE. remember, the only reason Obito was hit by Kakashi or Naruto in the Kamui demension was because he was in range of them when he did it in the normal demension, example.

Kakashi's Kunai slashed his mask because he was still in the vacinity when he used Kamui. Same with Naruto's Rasengan, and Kakashi's punches. COME ON, this was explained in the Manga aready...

If Obito manages to Kamui someone, he can just never return to that spot ever again. And they will be left there, unless he chooses to go there.

Danzo hench men for example, he absorbed them on the bridge near the iron country, but brought them out in the forest far away.
 

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True I never understood that with Mokuton Madara is obviously behind Hashirama with Obito and Yamato as close 3rd and 4ths however I disagree with Obito being inferior, he may not be as good with Mokuton but he thrashes them both IMO
 

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I don't see why not...? All of the Mokuton techs Madara used were on the same level.

The only difference is in the number of jutsu, which Hashi has a few stronger ones on the side (Wood God, Thousand Hands)

Example #1...
 
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