Most “Evil” Villain: Tobi OR Lord Orochimaru

[Punk Hazard]

tobi is tying to take the world over tobi is most evil villian

so he can bring peace

 

[psukkar]

the best villains are always the oldest.

They have more potenial to surprise you and reveal something that predates the current timeline.

Tobi has more potenial on that fact alone let alone his powers of manipulation and prowess as a shinobi. Taking on deadly shinobi with little effort and minimal number of jutsu. Tobi is truely one of kind tyoe of villain in the naruto verse.

Edo maadara appears to be quite evil aswell seems to take deliught in toying with his enemies tells them how they gonna die etc... then kills them. Also tells them why they fail too, then proceeds to kill them. Despite the fact hes been stealing powers from hasihrama.




orochimaru though is probally the most cliche ninja, big surprise factor when I frist saw him. Pulls out snakes from his arms, snakes with knifes in there mouths. Pulls out knifes out his throat. Every part of his body was a weapon. He remined of the alien from the aliens movie.

Orochimaru is more of mad scientist where tobi is man with fixed ideals and wont compromise, orocihmaru would thats the main difference between them.

Tobi can challenge naruto on phylisophical level. Orocihmaru is more of straight forward bad dude that likes killing. In comparson ofcourse

 

[MilwaukeegHost]

Orochimaru is definitely the undisputed "most evil villain".

You've already pointed out all the most obvious reasons. He was a sadistic psychopath. So what else is there to say?

O.K. here's some of the less obvious reasons why he's the most evil:

• He intensely desired Sasuke's body...:|
• He looked like a snake
• He's MJ with a crappy snake disguise
• He vomited all kinds of weird crap
• He had his own sinister theme music
• He copied my hair style

CTFU. I love this post. xd

the best villains are always the oldest.

They have more potenial to surprise you and reveal something that predates the current timeline.

Tobi has more potenial on that fact alone let alone his powers of manipulation and prowess as a shinobi. Taking on deadly shinobi with little effort and minimal number of jutsu. Tobi is truely one of kind tyoe of villain in the naruto verse.

Edo maadara appears to be quite evil aswell seems to take deliught in toying with his enemies tells them how they gonna die etc... then kills them. Also tells them why they fail too, then proceeds to kill them. Despite the fact hes been stealing powers from hasihrama.




orochimaru though is probally the most cliche ninja, big surprise factor when I frist saw him. Pulls out snakes from his arms, snakes with knifes in there mouths. Pulls out knifes out his throat. Every part of his body was a weapon. He remined of the alien from the aliens movie.

Orochimaru is more of mad scientist where tobi is man with fixed ideals and wont compromise, orocihmaru would thats the main difference between them.

Tobi can challenge naruto on phylisophical level. Orocihmaru is more of straight forward bad dude that likes killing. In comparson ofcourse

Your right. Tobi does has the better chance to show us stuff that we dont already know, but I'm comparing them by what we already know. We could say the same thing about Orochimaru, we have no idea of his full past (as in the Root faction, for example). Either one could prove to be "more" than what they currently are. But this involves too much assumption. I just want to know currently who is the Most "Evil" villain, we cannot look into the future.





-gHost Senju, K.U.S.H. Sage

 

[TobisPawn]

Where has Tobi stated that he wants peace? He sort of does, but I think he wants power more. When Naruto claimed that Tobi didn't want peace, Tobi agreed.

 

[paradox92]

This is just another masturbation to oro thread, just by reading the start of your thread I could tell you were leaning towards oro
You guys just can't just stand that oro is dead and tobi is the main villain now I won't answer your question because its obvious by your defintion whose more evil but in my books evil dosent count its about who is stronger and has got the wits to bring their plans to fruition....oh one last thing being direct and twisted dosent make one more evil

 

[Floydical]

Not even a contest, Orochimaru by far. Oro's history and dealings were so rooted in our minds, it just made him a much better villian overall. I could bring up a lot of points that have already been said, but I think its hard to argue against Oro being the top dog among Naruto villains.

 

[Herllz03]

Hmmmmmmm

 

[MilwaukeegHost]

Where has Tobi stated that he wants peace? He sort of does, but I think he wants power more. When Naruto claimed that Tobi didn't want peace, Tobi agreed.

Chapter 467 - Declaration of War

Page 15, he says he wants to become one with the world, so it will be a world without hatred or conflict. The Kages question his version of peace, then he asks them what way have they came up with to create peace on page 16. They have no good answer.

This is just another masturbation to oro thread, just by reading the start of your thread I could tell you were leaning towards oro
You guys just can't just stand that oro is dead and tobi is the main villain now I won't answer your question because its obvious by your defintion whose more evil but in my books evil dosent count its about who is stronger and has got the wits to bring their plans to fruition....oh one last thing being direct and twisted dosent make one more evil

Masterbation thread?!?


I think everyone would agree I included a sh*t load of non-biased information on BOTH shinobi. And I highlighted things about BOTH of them that would make them appear as "Evil" as possible. A fanboy would say who is most evil...? OROCHIMARU!!! Without talking about both characters history and providing supporting evidence to the theory. Please dont put me in the same catagory with those type of people unless I have demonstrated so.


1) Orochimaru was "dead" when Sasuke killed him. Until he came back to life and tried to take over Sasuke's body. Then he was killed "again" and sealed. Until a white snake appeared after he was sealed. Kabuto complains about surpressing Orochimaru's chakra the same way Sasuke said he had to surpress. Kishi is doing orochimaru flashbacks. OROCHIMARU JUST CAME OUT OF KABUTOS FREAKIN' STOMACHE for goodness sake. Dont act like I'm being a fanboy bringing up Orochimaru, Kishi has already made him a part of the last month of Mangas in one way or another. Yes a good month's worth.

2) If you dont care about who is most evil why post. I could say I dont care about who is the strongest b/c we have rarely seen either one of them fight seriously to the death. But your statement about who has the wits to bring their plan to fruition... to me, it seems like both Tobi and Kabuto are equally close to completing the tasks they wish to accomplish. Would you feel the same if we found out that Orochimaru is working with Kabuto to get Sasuke's body and complete his goal? B/c he has completed everything except capturing 1 person Sasuke... Tobi still needs two people Naruto/Bee to complete his plans... FYI




-gHost Senju, K.U.S.H. Sage

 

[Sterling Malory Archer]

Tobi...Will post reason when I get to university.

(=

 

[Gutsy]

Orochimaru is freakin evil!!

 

[Deidara Akatsuki]

Lord Orochimaru HANDS DOWN

 

[Ame no Murakumo]

Let's see
Ultimate goal being robbing the whole world of their existance, despite them being alive.
Trying to kill a 5 minute old boy twice, once by using explosive tag.
Murdering his whole clan for no particular reason than being asked to do so.
Extracting Kurama out of a pregnant woman & forcing the bijuu to crush that pregnant woman.
Using a miserable brat as his brute, forcing him to endure beatdown after beatdown until turning the said kid into Uchihaboy prime.
Waging a world war just for fun despite not having a need to do so.
Making us feel sorry for bijuus, whose destructive powers induce fear in the heart of everyone giving them the title of demons.
Turning the two most awesome villains of Naruto into a "crybaby who can't handle his friend's death & snapped into a superpowered lunatic" & a "too powerful villain sue who'se greatest achievements are now considered his immaturity & failures".
Refusing to job even at least once.

I'll still go for Tobi. Orochimaru wasn't even able to properly handle his precious"Sasuke Kun". In fact I'll choose Kabuto to be more evil than Orochimaru.

 

[psukkar]

CTFU. I love this post. xd








Your right. Tobi does has the better chance to show us stuff that we dont already know, but I'm comparing them by what we already know. We could say the same thing about Orochimaru, we have no idea of his full past (as in the Root faction, for example). Either one could prove to be "more" than what they currently are. But this involves too much assumption. I just want to know currently who is the Most "Evil" villain, we cannot look into the future.





-gHost Senju, K.U.S.H. Sage

ok in more simpler terms,

Tobi declared war on the world, orocihmaru and kabuto arent intrested in the world only their power. Tobi ideals affect the entire world orocihmarus and kabuto's dosent.

The world hates tobi and his organsation of what he has done to them indirectly via is his organsation. Orocihmaru u can say worked for tobi for short time too.

Tobi is clearly the greater evil, mianto aslo says this.

 

[apple pie of doom]

I find it hard to believe so many people think Orochimaru is so evil.

He is not, he does it out of motivation for science.

Tobi wants to enslave the world, out of a twisted way of peace most likely.

But no, the man who is most crueal and sadistic goes to Danzou, but at least his sadistic ways were pure justice, and nothing less.

 

[Deidara Akatsuki]

I find it hard to believe so many people think Orochimaru is so evil.

He is not, he does it out of motivation for science.

Tobi wants to enslave the world, out of a twisted way of peace most likely.

But no, the man who is most crueal and sadistic goes to Danzou, but at least his sadistic ways were pure justice, and nothing less.

Lol.

 

[medal32]

I would go with Orochi but Tobi isnt exactly a good person either

 

[HNIC]

Tobi' evil??? I'll go with Orochi

 

[USSJ Future Trunks]

tobi was a greater evil than kyuubi and a greater danger to the world than oro is. since the world united against him to stop him.
but in his own twisted way, tobi does desire to remake the world into his version of a peaceful one. oro only cares about power and immortality and will dispose like trash of people who he doesnt need anymore.

 

[Oni]

Thew whole sixty kid thing makes Oro pretty evil but I'm firm in saying that Danzo has to be given some consideration as most evil villian...his fingerprints are on almost ecery bad thing and every screwed iup kid that comes out of Leaf...the godfather of blowback.

 

[MilwaukeegHost]

PSUKKAR'S POST


ok in more simpler terms,

Tobi declared war on the world, orocihmaru and kabuto arent intrested in the world only their power. Tobi ideals affect the entire world orocihmarus and kabuto's dosent.

The world hates tobi and his organsation of what he has done to them indirectly via is his organsation. Orocihmaru u can say worked for tobi for short time too.

Tobi is clearly the greater evil, mianto aslo says this.
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MY RESPONSE

Orochimaru created his own VILLAGE. He definetally has a desire to rule. He killed a Kage and used him and his village as a pawn to help start a war, when he tried to take over Konoha as well. Do you honestly think that after he "perfected" his immortality and became the most powerful shinobi in the world, that he wouldn't try to take over the world?!?

Orochimaru's ideals dont affect the entire world?!? WTF? Then what the hell is this Edo Madara Hashirama Face OP Freakshow??? ALL of the kages of the known world are fighting him, and LOSING. And that's just one example, a BIG one. I would also like to point out how you are not discussing any of Orochimaru's feats when you describe his intentions as not as "evil" as Tobi.

And FYI, Orochimaru is a BOSS. He had people worshiping him and his own hidden village. I'm sure he only joined Ataksuki to further his own plans, and he possibly helped Tobi's "body" become what it is today. He did the same thing for Danzou during a time when no one thought it was possibly to successfully integrate Hashirama's cells into anyone.

Lastly, Minato never compared Orochimaru to Tobi. #FAIL

Let's see
Ultimate goal being robbing the whole world of their existance, despite them being alive.
Trying to kill a 5 minute old boy twice, once by using explosive tag.
Murdering his whole clan for no particular reason than being asked to do so.
Extracting Kurama out of a pregnant woman & forcing the bijuu to crush that pregnant woman.
Using a miserable brat as his brute, forcing him to endure beatdown after beatdown until turning the said kid into Uchihaboy prime.
Waging a world war just for fun despite not having a need to do so.
Making us feel sorry for bijuus, whose destructive powers induce fear in the heart of everyone giving them the title of demons.
Turning the two most awesome villains of Naruto into a "crybaby who can't handle his friend's death & snapped into a superpowered lunatic" & a "too powerful villain sue who'se greatest achievements are now considered his immaturity & failures".
Refusing to job even at least once.

I'll still go for Tobi. Orochimaru wasn't even able to properly handle his precious"Sasuke Kun". In fact I'll choose Kabuto to be more evil than Orochimaru.

1) He didnt try to kill naruto twice, the second time Karuma acted on his own will, not wanting to be sealed inside the people he despised, Humans.

2) He only started the war to get the Jinchurriki. If he could do so without the war he would have.

3) Sasuke planned to use Orochimaru from the start. Do NOT think he isnt doing the same thing to Tobi. I predict he will try and fight Tobi even after all the "help" tobi gave him, like he did Orochimaru.

4) How is Kabuto more evil than the shinobi that he is idolizing and trying to become? You cant even say its all Kabuto's will at this moment b/c he injested Orochimaru and has to surpress his cells 24/7.




-gHost Senju, K.U.S.H. Sage