[Spoilers] More proof that Doujutsu Didn't Come From The Juubi.

[NarutoKage2]

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THis is from manga mking it probably true. Juubi had the eyes. Jinks in the manga inherit the eyes of the Tailed beast when using it's abilities like Naruto's does.

Juubi after it was affected by the sage had the eyes, what i said was it didn't have them originally.

i agree. some people say sharingan + byakugan + rinnegan came from juubi with no evidence.

Exactly.

There you go. Your Eye theory was pretty rubbish Narutokage2 in my honest opinion.

Again the circumstances for the doujutsu hypothesis to be proven wrong have not yet been reached. In order for that to happen:

A: Juubi must be Complete

B: Juubi Must be subjugated

So far only B has possibly happened, A is not possible yet as the Juubi is still missing the Hachibi and Kyuubi chakra.

Not to mention your being very dumb for not realizing that due to Kurama's statements the Juubi is the primordial source of all Chakra and hence all Dojutsu must come from the juubi because of this statement. Its very simple, actually its pretty much immutable.

Lol and i asked for your opinion.....where?

Being dumb? Says the guy who thinks adding 2 to a number makes something other than a number. Dont respond if you dont understand that analogy.

Where did kurama say that?? Any person who learns how to control it can use chakra, its a combination of physical and spiritual energy. Or do you think every person in existence came from the juubi? Gtfo.

Immutable? Sure, if it helps you sleep at night.
I get it, a lot of you bandwagonned a false hypothesis and paraded it like a fact, only for the manga to slap the truth in your face. Just admit you were wrong and move on.....

 

[Bronze]

There you go. Your Eye theory was pretty rubbish Narutokage2 in my honest opinion.

Again the circumstances for the doujutsu hypothesis to be proven wrong have not yet been reached. In order for that to happen:

A: Juubi must be Complete

B: Juubi Must be subjugated

So far only B has possibly happened, A is not possible yet as the Juubi is still missing the Hachibi and Kyuubi chakra.

Not to mention your being very dumb for not realizing that due to Kurama's statements the Juubi is the primordial source of all Chakra and hence all Dojutsu must come from the juubi because of this statement. Its very simple, actually its pretty much immutable.

@bold: wrong. kyuubi only said chakra, he didn't mention anything about dojutsu. dojutsu is not chakra, its a special form of KKG which comes from ninjutsu. SO6P created ninjutsu, it is very likely that sharingan and byakugan came from rinnegan. also here is juubi remembering SO6P with rinnegan:

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there is no way that is a mere coincidence. juubi remembering SO6P with rinnegan tells you that SO6P did have the rinnegan before becoming the jinch hence that juubi remembered that.

i also i have a theory of how sharingan and byakugan came to existence:

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therefore it is very likely that SO6P founded all of the dojutsu.

 

[edo tensai wilmaso]

ok
1)the staff the SO6P is real buddist staff... The one obito has is like made from Nature chackra manipulation

2)the sage did not have rinni , albeit he had sage mode and sealing techs

3) dojutsu is a blood limit meaning you need to have special
DNA or whatever or chackra ... Nature chackra is still
Chackra And it can effect people

For example remember when Tobirama was explaining the sharingan to Sasuke
And said a special chackra to the brain ( I wonder what that special
Chakra is ??? The jubbi 's chackra ... That's what it is. )

The sage seperates the yin and yang of himself to make his 2 creations his two sons ... and what was in the sage when he made his two sons the jubbi. If it was not then uchiha would
Have rinni not sharingan .

 

[valandil988]

@bold: wrong. kyuubi only said chakra, he didn't mention anything about dojutsu. dojutsu is not chakra, its a special form of KKG which comes from ninjutsu. SO6P created ninjutsu, it is very likely that sharingan and byakugan came from rinnegan. also here is juubi remembering SO6P with rinnegan:

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there is no way that is a mere coincidence. juubi remembering SO6P with rinnegan tells you that SO6P did have the rinnegan before becoming the jinch hence that juubi remembered that.

i also i have a theory of how sharingan and byakugan came to existence:

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therefore it is very likely that SO6P founded all of the dojutsu.

Unlikely, your reasoning for the Juubi not knowing what the Rinnegan looked like while the sage wielded it is flawed. The juubi was not split when the Sage became its true Jinchuuriki; ergo when the sage gained the Rinnegan and the frightful powers that came with it the Juubi which was sealed within him likely experienced this power first hand. Hence when the Juubi remembered the Sage it remembered him in his most frightful form, a true wielder of the Rinnegan, not his pre-sealing weaker form.

The sage didn't split the Juubi straight away because he didn't know how the use Banbutsu Sozo. If he already had the Rinnegan then he would have done it straight away and we wouldn't have seen an old man saying good bye to the Biju, Kurama and the other Biju don't seem to have been around the Sage for long after they were born, so it must have been at the end of his life. IE it took that long for him to truly learn how the wield the Rinnegan properly.

Another point, the sage became truly god-like when he sealed the Juubi not before (no one should argue this, its a simple fact). If the sage could use Banbutsu Sozo (an aspect of the Rinnegan) BEFORE becoming the Jin of the Juubi as one would assume if he wielded the Rinnegan before the sealing of the Juubi then why not simply use that godly power to split the juubi without sealing it within ones self?

Sage's tools revolve around sealing things, obviously they appear to be unusual ways to attempt sealing other beings. Ie it seems likely that these were all previous attempts of the Sage to seal the Juubi, the last resort was sealing it within himself. If he had such godly techniques such as the Rinnegan he wouldn't need sealing techs at all, Banbutsu Sozo can make imagination reality! For a true wielder of the Rinnegan defeating the juubi would have been a paltry deed, defeating it without any fancy techs and just your own know how? That makes you a god amongst men.

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[SexySakura]

I agree with this... If the rinnegan really came from the Jubi then both Obito's eyes now would have evolved in to rinnegan.

 

[NarutoKage2]

I agree with this... If the rinnegan really came from the Jubi then both Obito's eyes now would have evolved in to rinnegan.

Yeah, exactly.

Too bad some idiots still hold onto that outdated belief with pathetic excuses, reminds me of the noobs who said tobi could be izuna body surfing obitos body even when we saw obitos face lol.

 

[Mr Hiru]

I think that people is creating conclusions too early, the Juubi doesn't even reached its full form.

._. wait and see.

 

[Floydical]

Also recall the chapter in which the Juubi attacks (targets Naruto). It looks at Naruto and above him it sees the Rinnegan eyes of the Sage. Why would it imagine those eyes with an opponent starting at it if the sage dnt already have them?!

Now it could have made sense if the sage did a look inside himself; however, considering it was seeing the real world and recalling the same expression on one who stood against him. It seems like the sage already had the Rinnegan.

This isn't necessarily true. The Juubi could very well have been remembering the sage after he had been tamed by him. He could have been remembering him after he became his Jin.

@bansho tenin: that image wasnt from the memory of the rikudo or anyone directly involved with the events of that time. Like how obito described the founding of konoha the images were non canon. Or when itachi told sasuke madara forcibly took izunas eyes. The account has to be first hand for the images to be 100% accurate. Note that the rikudo has his staff, which is only obtained AFTER becoming the juubis jinchuriki as we saw with obito.

The staff is not related to Obito's. The sage always had his staff, it was a real object, even before he fought the Juubi. Obito's is a replica created from the dark/light jutsu as a way to emulate the sage.

@OP,
I think its clear that he only got the rinnegan after sealing the Juubi. At this point in the manga, I believe this case is far more likely. Basing you idea on the simple fact that rinnegan can absorb Rasengan while Juubi can be damaged by it is not a real reason. In reality, the whole weakness to senjutsu fact is kind of a crock, considering Rasengan is, in itself, a Ninjutsu. Bottom line is there if far more evidence of the Rinnegan coming from the Juubi than not.

 

[Bronze]

Unlikely, your reasoning for the Juubi not knowing what the Rinnegan looked like while the sage wielded it is flawed. The juubi was not split when the Sage became its true Jinchuuriki; ergo when the sage gained the Rinnegan and the frightful powers that came with it the Juubi which was sealed within him likely experienced this power first hand. Hence when the Juubi remembered the Sage it remembered him in his most frightful form, a true wielder of the Rinnegan, not his pre-sealing weaker form.

The sage didn't split the Juubi straight away because he didn't know how the use Banbutsu Sozo. If he already had the Rinnegan then he would have done it straight away and we wouldn't have seen an old man saying good bye to the Biju, Kurama and the other Biju don't seem to have been around the Sage for long after they were born, so it must have been at the end of his life. IE it took that long for him to truly learn how the wield the Rinnegan properly.

Another point, the sage became truly god-like when he sealed the Juubi not before (no one should argue this, its a simple fact). If the sage could use Banbutsu Sozo (an aspect of the Rinnegan) BEFORE becoming the Jin of the Juubi as one would assume if he wielded the Rinnegan before the sealing of the Juubi then why not simply use that godly power to split the juubi without sealing it within ones self?

Sage's tools revolve around sealing things, obviously they appear to be unusual ways to attempt sealing other beings. Ie it seems likely that these were all previous attempts of the Sage to seal the Juubi, the last resort was sealing it within himself. If he had such godly techniques such as the Rinnegan he wouldn't need sealing techs at all, Banbutsu Sozo can make imagination reality! For a true wielder of the Rinnegan defeating the juubi would have been a paltry deed, defeating it without any fancy techs and just your own know how? That makes you a god amongst men.

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fail. juubi is mindless monster that doesn't have feelings nor ideals as stated by kyuubi. therefore it cannot remember SO6P in his frightening form.

to awaken the rinnegan, you need uchiha DNA + senju DNA as stated by kyuubi:

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as i remember SO6P had both the cells of uchiha + senju which lead him to awaken his rinnegan:

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it says you need uchiha + senju blood to awaken the rinnegan. it doesn't juubi.

also when SO6P divided the juubi chakra, he created the moon after dividing the juubi chakra by using chibaku tensie:

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to use chibaku tensie, you need the rinnegan not juubi chakra.

therefore SO6P naturally had the rinnegan due to having the uchiha and senju DNA.