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His feats are how he went toe to toe with two individuals who would wreck both JJ maddy and Kaguya in a pure taijutsu match up. Put JJ maddy or Kaguya in the same situation they would lose much worse. Narusasuke would throw them like a rag doll. Any Jutsu they use MomoKinshiki would absorb. His eye didn't change color for show. They actually got stronger.

And Sasuke is a special case he is the ONLY person with one Rinnegan he doesn't need two. The tomoe must account for that. Also, Kaguya doesn't have Rinnegan that is a Sharingan.
Madara had his 2 Rinnegan back. Doubt Sasuke and Naruto can stand a chance, especially in a Taijutsu battle.
 

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His feats are how he went toe to toe with two individuals who would wreck both JJ maddy and Kaguya in a pure taijutsu match up. Put JJ maddy or Kaguya in the same situation they would lose much worse. Narusasuke would throw them like a rag doll. Any jutsu they use MomoKinshiki would absorb. His eye didnt change color for show. They actually got stronger.

And Sasuke is a special case he is the ONLY person with one Rinnegan he doesnt need two. The tomoe must account for that. Also kaguya doesnt have Rinnegan that is a Sharingan.
How would sasuke and naruto wreck madara and kaguya in taijutsu? Kaguya's taijutsu already negged sasuke's susanoo, incase you forget eighty gods vacuum attack is a taijutsu.

You believe taijutsu is the only power needed to win a battle, I suppose eight gates guy>>>>everyone else then.

You are contradicting yourself. If you believe kaguya's eye is a sharingan then she must be a special case like sasuke too since she doesn't need two eyes XD . That collapses your argument. Also you like using the DB right? Well the DB lists her 3rd eye as rinnesharingan not sharingan.

Kaguya wrecks momo.
 

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Momoshiki and Kinshiki had no chakra of their own.

They were essentially the same as Kaguya was before she ate the fruit.

Now the Rinnepalms are the only thing that sets them apart.

But they were only so easily defeated because Sasuke realized they had no chakra and had to rely on the jutsu thrown at them to use their powers so only Taijutsu would work. Thats why Momoshiki consumed Kinshiki, to get chakra but eventually ran out, hence why he had to take more chakra "pills".

The only thing we can deduce from the fight is that Naruto and Sasuke's Taijutsu is superior to Momoshiki's and Kinshiki.

And through out the movie, it was pretty obvious that Momoshiki's and Kinshiki's ninjutsu was superior.
Heres what you can TRULY deduce.

1.MomoKinshiki(the pic) is physically stronger than Kaguya AND JJ Madara.
2. His Absorbing Technique forces ALL to fight him only in Taijutsu.
3. NaruSasuke are plainly superior than their teenage counterparts. They're teen selves was pushing JJ Madara to his limits physically. Yet Momokinshiki was tossing them around like kids. He just got jumped REAL REAL bad by the most elite
 

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How would sasuke and naruto wreck madara and kaguya in taijutsu? Kaguya's taijutsu already negged sasuke's susanoo, incase you forget eighty gods vacuum attack is a taijutsu.

You believe taijutsu is the only power needed to win a battle, I suppose eight gates guy>>>>everyone else then.

You are contradicting yourself. If you believe kaguya's eye is a sharingan then she must be a special case like sasuke too since she doesn't need two eyes XD . That collapses your argument. Also you like using the DB right? Well the DB lists her 3rd eye as rinnesharingan not sharingan.

Kaguya wrecks momo.
Only taijutsu works. Did you even watch the movie
 

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He has whatever techniques his opponent uses tbh. Kaguya is stupid she would lose rather quickly to MomoKinshiki in my opinion.
It doesn't appear that Momo can absorb solid attacks; he can only absorb chakra-based attacks. I doubt he could absorb an Ash bone, for instance. Honestly, Momo is even dumber than Kaguya when it comes to battle sense.
 

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Only taijutsu works. Did you even watch the movie
I watched the fight yes, did you know that a shuriken technique from a genin(albeit skilled genin) destroyed one of the rinnegan and that momo was defeated by a rasengan?

Lol can you show me scans of kaguya or madara being killed by a rasengan?
 

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I watched the fight yes, did you know that a shuriken technique from a genin(albeit skilled genin) destroyed one of the rinnegan and that momo was defeated by a rasengan?

Lol can you show me scans of kaguya or madara being killed by a rasengan?
Thats really all you can use and it means nothing. Pain died by a rasengan. Kaguya was socked in thd head by Sakura and her arm ripped off. Madara killed by Zetsu. Literally ANYTHING Kaguya throws will get absorbed and redirected 10x stronger
 

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Maybe the fusion was meant to be stronger, but he showed nothing on the level of Kaguya, except what is probably one of the strongest taijutsu in the series. Ninjutsu-wise, Kaguya completely outshines him, and I don't even think that needs explanation.

The only way for him to arguably overpower her is if he can instantly absorb her Expansive TSB and shoot it back stronger, though there are obvious flaws in that strategy.
 

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Thats really all you can use and it means nothing. Pain died by a rasengan. Kaguya was socked in thd head by Sakura and her arm sliced off. Literally ANYTHING Kaguya throws will get absorbed and redirected 10x stronger
No that is not all I can say. Momo can't absorb solid constructs like ash bone, he couldn't even absorb susanoo/kurama avatar. That goes to show he can't absorb eighty gods vacuum attack which effortless damaged sasuke's susanoo.

Momo stands no chance here. Momo was aiming to be like kaguya not the other way around
 

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Maybe the fusion was meant to be stronger, but he showed nothing on the level of Kaguya, except what is probably one of the strongest taijutsu in the series. Ninjutsu-wise, Kaguya completely outshines him, and I don't even think that needs explanation.

The only way for him to arguably overpower her is if he can instantly absorb her Expansive TSB and shoot it back stronger, though there are obvious flaws in that strategy.
His Ninjutsu>Kaguyas with only one jutsu. Sorry to say but he can defeat her
 

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Momo can't absorb solid constructs like ash bone
Bruh, he absorbed Shadow Clones in the movie. A single Ash Bone wouldn't be a problem... doesn't change the fact that Momo gets mid-diffed. And that's being generous.

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His Ninjutsu>Kaguyas with only one jutsu. Sorry to say but he can defeat her
First you'd have to prove he can absorb her Expansive TSB instantly, otherwise Kaguya can shoot Ash Bones, make Muki Tensei molest him, pressure with Vacuum Punches, etc. Even if he somehow does absorb and survives all that, shooting it back would kill him as well, plus Kaguya can just dimension shift and avoid the whole thing.

There's actually only one threat that can be avoided by just spamming techniques and taking out the absorbing Rinnegan. From there, Momoshiki is fodder to her.
 

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Bruh, he absorbed Shadow Clones in the movie. A single Ash Bone wouldn't be a problem... doesn't change the fact that Momo gets mid-diffed. And that's being generous.
Ho? He did, did he? Why couldn't he absorb the kurama avatar/susanoo combo then?

Oh well I agree the guy gets low diffed
 

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Not really. Someone trying to take your power usually means they're weaker than you. I wish momo had some of the feats he had in the novel. It seems much stronger.
 
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one of the dumbest most misinformed post I ever read...probably THE dumbest...
obvously kaguya can do everything momoshiki can do AND MORE...that including chakra absorption
 

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You don't understand. Momoshiki+Kinshiki was stronger in a very different rather unique way. He wasn't technically stronger, rather he boasted an ability to make others weaker which made him relatively stronger. Forcing them to use only taijutsu (his Rinnegan nullifies ninjutsu and genjutsu) certainly puts him above everyone else since his physical parameters surpass everyone. He isn't stronger than Kaguya by power measurement, but he's definitely stronger in a fight against Kaguya or any other opponent that fought Kaguya.

one of the dumbest most misinformed post I ever read...probably THE dumbest...
obvously kaguya can do everything momoshiki can do AND MORE...that including chakra absorption
Of course. But have you ever thought about what would happen in a fight against them? Both Momoshiki and Kaguya can nullify ninjutsu and genjutsu, so the fight comes down to taijutsu, right? Momoshiki wrecks in this department.

Maybe the fusion was meant to be stronger, but he showed nothing on the level of Kaguya, except what is probably one of the strongest taijutsu in the series. Ninjutsu-wise, Kaguya completely outshines him, and I don't even think that needs explanation.

The only way for him to arguably overpower her is if he can instantly absorb her Expansive TSB and shoot it back stronger, though there are obvious flaws in that strategy.
Read above.
 
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Prime Kaguya > Post birth Kaguya >Powered up Kaguya ~ JJ Hagoromo > MomoshikiKinshiki ~ Initial Kaguya > Hagoromo ~ Hamura > JJ Madara~ base Momoshiki >= Toneri >JJ Obito ~ Kinshiki
 

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You don't understand. Momoshiki+Kinshiki was stronger in a very different rather unique way. He wasn't technically stronger, rather he boasted an ability to make others weaker which made him relatively stronger. Forcing them to use only taijutsu (his Rinnegan nullifies ninjutsu and genjutsu) certainly puts him above everyone else since his physical parameters surpass everyone. He isn't stronger than Kaguya by power measurement, but he's definitely stronger in a fight against Kaguya or any other opponent that fought Kaguya.



Of course. But have you ever thought about what would happen in a fight against them? Both Momoshiki and Kaguya can nullify ninjutsu and genjutsu, so the fight comes down to taijutsu, right? Momoshiki wrecks in this department.



Read above.
I know thst Kaguya has stronger chakra etc. I know everything you just typed. However the guy is WRONG thinking Kaguya can do everything Momo can. No one else has the ability to steal jutsu and use it 10x stronger
 

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one of the dumbest most misinformed post I ever read...probably THE dumbest...
obvously kaguya can do everything momoshiki can do AND MORE...that including chakra absorption
What you just said is dumb. Kaguya cannot absorb jutsu and use it perfectly 10x stronger that is Momos unique Rinnegan ability. WHATEVER Kaguya can do He can do too because of that move. You dont think very well. All kaguya does is throw ninjutsu. She would make MomoKinshiki very happy. Plus Momokinshiki is physically stronger than her. You can tell that by the fight.
 

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Ho? He did, did he? Why couldn't he absorb the kurama avatar/susanoo combo then?

Oh well I agree the guy gets low diffed
First off you have to be a jinchuriki so answer your own question for Kurama. Second I'm pretty sure he CAN absorb Susano'o and use it. Considering he blew susano'os face off with a littlt lightning I dont think it matters. Plus he was never close enough to absorb it. And notice how as SOON as they killed the golem they cancelled the avatars in ghe blink of an eye and resumed taijutsu. They were being smart.
 
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