MomoKinshiki

[Jokule67]

I'm just gonna go ahead and change my stance on this subject. MomoKinshiki were OBVIOUSLY meant to be stronger then Kaguya. I mean they gave the guy Byakugan and 3 rinnegan. THREE!!! And not only that his skins red and he is SUPER BUFF. They tried to shove it in our face how strong this guy is.....and then NaruSasuke stomped him with minimal power usage.

I'm gonna just face the music and accept that. What do you guys think?

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[Urda]

I heard Naruto and Sasuke were nerfed. Besides, Kaguya was sealed, but Momo was killed by Rasengan.

 

[Mad Titan Thanos]

no they were collecting bijuus chakra in order to create and eat chakra fruit power only Kaguya have.

Kaguya,JJ HAgoromo,JJ Madara are above them in power.

 

[-Haku Yuki-]

Sasuke states in the movie that he is why Kaguya needed the zetsu army so he is the threat kaguya was getting ready for

 

[Gerkak]

1 rinnegan sasuke>>>2 rinnegan madara:|

Number of rinnegan=/= greater power

 

[Jokule67]

I heard Naruto and Sasuke were nerfed. Besides, Kaguya was sealed, but Momo was killed by Rasengan.

So? Strong enemies always die by that plot move

 

[Jokule67]

1 rinnegan sasuke>>>2 rinnegan madara:|

Number of rinnegan=/= greater power

Sasukes Rinnegan has tomoe. Its not the same. Narutos sage power is even different than madaras

 

[hixa kuogame]

No they were not stronger than the Juubi.

 

[Urda]

So? Strong enemies always die by that plot move

Kaguya didn't die, so that already tells you a lot. And btw, Momo had to consume his partner to reach new levels, so technically, he wasn't strong.

 

[Jokule67]

no they were collecting bijuus chakra in order to create and eat chakra fruit power only Kaguya have.

Kaguya,JJ HAgoromo,JJ Madara are above them in power.

But once they fused he blocked both Sasuke and Naruto without budging an inch. Madara nor Kaguya can do that.

 

[VongolaX]

His six path justus are almost as cool as Nagato's too.

 

[Gerkak]

Sasukes Rinnegan has tomoe. Its not the same. Narutos sage power is even different than madaras

So does kaguya's rinne sharingan so why do you feel that having 3 rinnegan would make momo stronger? :|

 

[Liquid Snake]

What if momoshiki flew into the moon and released kaguya and they form an alliance to fight naruto and sasuke of course naruto and sasuke will have gotten immensely stronger or got another power up

 

[Jokule67]

So does kaguya's rinne sharingan so why do you feel that having 3 rinnegan would make momo stronger? :|

Because Madara instantly got stronger with his other rinnegan. The true power comes when they are together its a manga fact. Plus its a third eye on the forehead. Nothing to me is stronger than that

 

[Amazeballs]

Momo does not have techniques on Kaguya's level. He has Chakra blasts, basic elemental jutsu, chakra weapons, black rods, elemental beasts, and chakra absorption.

These moves simply pale in comparison to dimension-shifting, chakra arms powerful enough to one-shot perfect Susano'o, perfect control over nature, infinite Tsukuyomi, Juubi transformation, chakra absorption (both can do this), ash bones that deal unhealable damage, dimension-busting truth-seeking orbs, and frankly far greater strength/speed.

Kaguya tanked even the nine Bijuu-infused Rasenshuriken. Momo was actually killed by a large Rasengan. I honestly highly doubt that the Rasengan used was more powerful than, say, the one Naruto/Minato used while in Bijuu Mode against Obito.

Momo was a "threat" to Kaguya in the sense that he was the one being who could steal her precious chakra fruit and gain equal or greater power. However, he never attained that power, or anything close to it.

Momoshiki was outclassed by a Bijuu Mode / Susano'o combo. Naruto didn't even have to enter his Ashura Mode avatar and get truly serious, and Sasuke only used Susano'o, swordsmanship, and teleportation.

 

[Gerkak]

Because Madara instantly got stronger with his other rinnegan. The true power comes when they are together its a manga fact. Plus its a third eye on the forehead. Nothing to me is stronger than that

A manga fact that when they come together they are stronger? You acknowledged that sasuke with one rinnegan was stronger than base madara with two rinnegan right? If so why do you feel there would be any difference in respect to kaguya and momo?

Kaguya doesn't have a rinnegan, saying momo is stronger than her just because he has 3 rinnegan makes no sense because of the sasuke and madara example. Does momo have the feats to match kaguya? Did momo claim superiority to kaguya? These are the things that need to be questioned here.

By the way that fact of yours was already proven to only be true for sharingan and dual rinnegan it is not so for every dojutsu

 

[Nick01]

Kaguya still wrecks MomoKinshiki.

 

[Jokule67]

Momo does not have techniques on Kaguya's level. He has Chakra blasts, basic elemental jutsu, chakra weapons, black rods, elemental beasts, and chakra absorption.

These moves simply pale in comparison to dimension-shifting, chakra arms powerful enough to one-shot perfect Susano'o, perfect control over nature, infinite Tsukuyomi, Juubi transformation, chakra absorption (both can do this), ash bones that deal unhealable damage, dimension-busting truth-seeking orbs, and frankly far greater strength/speed.

Kaguya tanked even the nine Bijuu-infused Rasenshuriken. Momo was actually killed by a large Rasengan. I honestly highly doubt that the Rasengan used was more powerful than, say, the one Naruto/Minato used while in Bijuu Mode against Obito.

Momo was a "threat" to Kaguya in the sense that he was the one being who could steal her precious chakra fruit and gain equal or greater power. However, he never attained that power, or anything close to it.

Momoshiki was outclassed by a Bijuu Mode / Susano'o combo. Naruto didn't even have to enter his Ashura Mode avatar and get truly serious, and Sasuke only used Susano'o, swordsmanship, and teleportation.

He has whatever techniques his opponent uses tbh. Kaguya is stupid she would lose rather quickly to MomoKinshiki in my opinion.

 

[TheSageOfNinetails]

Momoshiki and Kinshiki had no chakra of their own.

They were essentially the same as Kaguya was before she ate the fruit.

Now the Rinnepalms are the only thing that sets them apart.

But they were only so easily defeated because Sasuke realized they had no chakra and had to rely on the jutsu thrown at them to use their powers so only Taijutsu would work. Thats why Momoshiki consumed Kinshiki, to get chakra but eventually ran out, hence why he had to take more chakra "pills".

The only thing we can deduce from the fight is that Naruto and Sasuke's Taijutsu is superior to Momoshiki's and Kinshiki.

And through out the movie, it was pretty obvious that Momoshiki's and Kinshiki's ninjutsu was superior.

 

[Jokule67]

A manga fact that when they come together they are stronger? You acknowledged that sasuke with one rinnegan was stronger than base madara with two rinnegan right? If so why do you feel there would be any difference in respect to kaguya and momo?

Kaguya doesn't have a rinnegan, saying momo is stronger than her just because he has 3 rinnegan makes no sense because of the sasuke and madara example. Does momo have the feats to match kaguya? Did momo claim superiority to kaguya? These are the things that need to be questioned here.

By the way that fact of yours was already proven to only be true for sharingan and dual rinnegan it is not so for every dojutsu

His feats are how he went toe to toe with two individuals who would wreck both JJ maddy and Kaguya in a pure taijutsu match up. Put JJ maddy or Kaguya in the same situation they would lose much worse. Narusasuke would throw them like a rag doll. Any jutsu they use MomoKinshiki would absorb. His eye didnt change color for show. They actually got stronger.

And Sasuke is a special case he is the ONLY person with one Rinnegan he doesnt need two. The tomoe must account for that. Also kaguya doesnt have Rinnegan that is a Sharingan.