Mokuton Naruto Incoming, Naruto's Final Power-Up as Ashura!!

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But it doesn't matter how strong Hiruzen was, wood chakra is a KKG so if he didn't have it in his DN then he couldn't create that chakra. Yamato was only able to do it because Orochimaru did many experiments and I think it was 60 babies with only Yamato surviving the experiment. Mei actually had 2 KKG, Boiling and Lava but to get that she had to learn the needed elements which are fire and water for boiling and fire and earth for lava. It's not about skills only, sure you need the skills to learn all of the needed elements and be able to combine them but you need the KKG to be able to do so.

Kaguya and Hagoromo have Rinnegans which allow them to use any elements they want, Obito combined at least 4 to make his black Jinton like attack as Juubito while Jinton takes 3 elements itself, Madara used storm element as well. Hashirama had the KKG for it so he had it by DNA. This is why they all need Hashirama's DNA to access his KKG but we never see anyone put Hashirama's cells in and automatically start using wood jutsus, Danzo had years to learn it, Yamato had years, Madara could of had the elements but he would gain them with Rinnegan, Obito had Zetsu when he first used it then had years to learn it himself

After Ashura's chakra blooming inside Naruto he'll have a DNA of his own which can produce Mokuton, the next generations will prolly rely on Naruto DNA just as how current generation have relied on Hashirama DNA :cool:

I do not know why Naruto is not using his avatar, but I think his avatar will be special. Beside Asura power awakened years later, but there is no doubt, that having all elements does not mean you are able to use mokuton. I read in the internet that Hashirma wood style is KKG.

Naruto used the power of the bijus (chakra) to combine with is standards moves ransengan and Rasenshuriken.

But if you are right, Naruto wood style would be stronger, than Hashirma´s.

A KKG which was passed down from Kaguya -- Hagoromo -- Ashura -- Ashura's transmigrants -- Hashirama -- Naruto :)

This theory is one of my favorite theory. I am strongly confident that everything in this theory will be accomplished in the coming battle. I even created a thread to say this battle will be the most awesome and fine battle Naruto has ever fought. Those who think Naruto will use offensive attack in the upcoming battle are people who don't get the philosophy of the manga and the main character: Naruto will save Sasuke from his darkness and Naruto is the heir to Rikudo, not Ashura.

Now, why Kishi did not give Mokuton to Naruto from the start?

First, Naruto is not just Ashura's reincarnation. Unlike Sasuke who was born uchiha, Naruto was born from two different clan with a twisted fate (Kyuubi). Kishi started by showing Naruto as a Jinchuriki, then as Minato's son, and now as Ashura's reincarnation. Thus, this is the season of Ashura's reincarnation. Even Sasuke is now done with being uchiha and is in his season of Indra's reincarnation.

Second, Mokuton is a endgame Jutsu. It is unbeatable, and I mean someone who has such water + earth +wind, and has mastered chakra control and sage mode is simply one with nature. He is the land itself and is unbeatable no matter what you throw on him. Also, from all my experience reading Manga, Mokuton users never get defeated, and they are always wise people who can sacrifice themselve to save others.

This being said, if Kishi had given Mokuton to Naruto at the beginning of the series, they would be no rivalry in this manga.

Thanks :) And agreed if Kishi had given Mokuton to Naruto in the beginning of the series, then there would be no rivalry.

Good theory but one flaw. Naruto may have Mokuton but he doesn't know how to handle combine 2 Chakra Natures, namely Earth and Water.

He had no training either.

He won't need that, all he needs is the Chakra Bloom, nothing more.
 

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After Ashura's chakra blooming inside Naruto he'll have a DNA of his own which can produce Mokuton, the next generations will prolly rely on Naruto DNA just as how current generation have relied on Hashirama DNA :cool:



A KKG which was passed down from Kaguya -- Hagoromo -- Ashura -- Ashura's transmigrants -- Hashirama -- Naruto :)



Thanks :) And agreed if Kishi had given Mokuton to Naruto in the beginning of the series, then there would be no rivalry.



He won't need that, all he needs is the Chakra Bloom, nothing more.

Yeah but Naruto chakra is their he does needed to be awakened like Ashura´s. Naruto has Rikudo´s senjutsu wood style is weak for
power up.
 

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Possible, but I don't think that will happen so I disagree with you.

Juubi made from three part.
The mind(rinnegan)
The body(mokuton)
The soul(bijuu)

This is about balance ever notice naruto has the the souls. Sasuke has the mind. It's for shadowed that naruto has the body. Look at the brothers chakra cloaks like indra sasuke rides in the head of Susanoo. The gold color and markings on ashura,s cloak match naruto,s cloak. Look at where he rides in that cloak in the body. We know they don't die but I bet naruto unlocks the body in this last fight. Before sasuke changes his mind and works with naruto.
 

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Yes, we're going to see Naruto using the Mokuton very soon. There have been hints that Kishi has dropped a few times but the foreshadowing was pretty-much cleared when Kishi released the "Color Page" consisting Juubito Level 2 along with pairs of Edo Hashirama-BM Naruto and Edo Madara-EMS Sasuke.

I'll leave a thread of mine [which I had made almost a year ago]of that " " in which I predicted two things,

1. Sasuke will get the Rinnegan.

2. Sasuke's Betrayal.

3. Naruto will get the Mokuton.

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Alright then, we'll directly go to the manga-scans.

Here we see that Capt. Yamato's Mokuton [which he received by using Hashirama's DNA] is reacting to Naruto's KCM Mode,

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Later we saw White Zetsus turning into Trees when Naruto killed them,

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Now at first we were lead to believe[all thanks to that bastard Black Zetsu] that the White Zetsu's were created by Shodai Hokage Hashirama's Cells but later we found out that the White Zetsus are nothing but people who once were trapped in the Mugen Tsukuyomi used by Kaguya.

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So in reality Hashirama's cells were only used to prolong Madara's life-span and not for the creation of the White Zetsus, so strictly speaking Capt Yamato's Mokuton [Which is Hashirama's] and White Zetsu's Mokuton [Which is Kaguya's] are from two different users and not from Hashirama's DNA!!

Meaning Mokuton from two Different Users reacted the "Same" way when they were in contact with Naruto! And by reacting I mean "Enhancing." Naruto has been enhancing Mokuton by his chakra!!




Now canonically speaking the first person to wield Mokuton is Kaguya and later we thought it was Hashirama[from whom many others achieved the Mokuton but none of them were "Self-Made" users like Hashirama], but is that the reality? Erm No.

The Juubi which is generations older than Hashirama can use the Mokuton,

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In-fact Hashirama's Cells were used to gain a firm control over the Juubi by Madara and Obito,

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Hagoromo also, after Becoming the Jinchuriki of the Juubi should've been able to use the Mokuton, but let's not get into that.

Here's the real interesting stuff,

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Hashirama using the God-Gates as in the Torii Gates which are made up of Mokuton!

Ashura used the Torii Gates when he fought against Indra,

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And finally, Naruto can use the Torii Gates as well,

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So it's not Hashirama it's Ashura. Let me rephrase that, Ashura and his transmigrants can use the Mokuton! And as Ashura's Current and maybe the Last Transmigrant Naruto will use the Mokuton.




And here's the final piece of the puzzle,

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We see as soon as Minato's Edo Tensei ends the dead White Zetsu turned into a Tree! And this time Naruto isn't even in the KCM Mode, heck he doesn't even have the Yang Kurama [He has Yin Kurama] and yet the Zetsu Turned into tree! Meaning the Ashura's Chakra inside of him is awakening!

Remember, Hashirama never used the Mokuton when he was a little Kid, he was shown using it as an Adult. Furthermore if we look at Ashura,

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"The powerful chakra bloomed inside of him after harsh training and he awakened chakra rivaling Indra!" Same is happening with Naruto, Ashura's chakra has started to make it's move and soon Naruto will use the Mokuton!




For those who find it Hard to believe that Naruto might get another power-up or don't really believe that Ashura's chakra has just started to make it's move,

Well here's the real deal,

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Naruto isn't just Ashura's successor he's also the Child of the Prophecy! And Ashura chose Naruto because he was Child of the Prophecy and not the other way round. Meaning the things we saw so far of Naruto using KCM, BM, BSM or Rikudou Mode were because of his own skill and not because he was Ashura's Successor. I mean look at Minato, he too used KCM and BM or Obito who after getting the Bijjus were able to become Juubito.

Ashura's chakra when fully bloomed [Which I believe is very close] in Naruto will cause him to use the Mokuton.




Summary:

1. Kaguya and the Juubi are the first known beings to use the Mokuton.

2. Ashura and Ashura's Transmigrants are capable of using the Mokuton after their Chakra [Or Ashura's Chakra inside of them] blooms.

3. Ashura's Chakra inside of Naruto hasn't been bloomed yet, all of the things he did so far are because of his skill and him being the Child of the Prophecy!

4. Naruto has shown to be capable of Enhancing Mokuton from two separate originators.

5. Last Chapter shows that Ashura's Chakra inside Naruto is close to blooming, he'll use the Mokuton very soon!





So get ready to see the Mokuton Naruto soon :)

Hope you guys enjoyed :flowers


Great post. Rep!

Before reading the post, I wouldnt have believed that Naruto needed Mokuton.(I mean he's already strong enough to pulverize Sasuke). But after reading it, I think it's quite probable that Naruto will soon use Mokuton and not just that, we might see many more jutsu from him.
 

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Chakra Bloom?

If he wants to use another element without training he needs the already modified chakra handed to him, like the Tailed Beasts did with him.


According to Obito, Mokuton is a really difficult element to use and stabilize without proper training.

I doubt Naruto could ever use it without training, since Obito was taught since childhood. You either need Sharingan to master it instantly.
 

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Chakra Bloom?

If he wants to use another element without training he needs the already modified chakra handed to him, like the Tailed Beasts did with him.


According to Obito, Mokuton is a really difficult element to use and stabilize without proper training.

I doubt Naruto could ever use it without training, since Obito was taught since childhood. You either need Sharingan to master it instantly.

Dude, didnt he say thay Naruto might get the Mokuton because he's Ashura's trnasmigrant? No one except for Hashirama had the Mokuton in the entire manga.(I mean without getting Hashirama's cells).

And anyways, Naruto used Lava style, Magnet style, etc without any prior training. Mokuton would be the same.
 

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Dude, didnt he say thay Naruto might get the Mokuton because he's Ashura's trnasmigrant? No one except for Hashirama had the Mokuton in the entire manga.(I mean without getting Hashirama's cells).

And anyways, Naruto used Lava style, Magnet style, etc without any prior training. Mokuton would be the same.

I don't think you know how chakra nature works.

You need the special DNA to use a specific Kekkei Genkai attached to it, chakra doesn't qualify. The Tailed Beats molded the elemental chakra for him.

And Ashura never had Mokuton, those giant Torii Gates are Uzumaki Fuuinjutsu, the same jutsu Hagoromo used against Shinju.

The transmigrants power are;

Ashura: Hagoromo's Sennin Chakra

Indra: Hagoromo's Power Eyes or Rinnegan.
 

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I don't think you know how chakra nature works.

You need the special DNA to use a specific Kekkei Genkai attached to it, chakra doesn't qualify. The Tailed Beats molded the elemental chakra for him.

And Ashura never had Mokuton, those giant Torii Gates are Uzumaki Fuuinjutsu, the same jutsu Hagoromo used against Shinju.

The transmigrants power are;

Ashura: Hagoromo's Sennin Chakra

Indra: Hagoromo's Power Eyes or Rinnegan.


If you think that Ashura never had Mokuton, then why the hell are you even in this thread?

And I forgot to add something in reply to your last post.
Who the hell told you that Sharingan can master Mokuton instantly? And Obito never used Mokuton, so what was that about Obito using Mokuton since childhood? Madara used Mokuton without any training. Do you remember what he said when he used Deep Forest Emergence? He said that he wanted to try it out meaning he was using it for the first time.


You need Kekkei Genkai for special chakra natures to work? It is not tat way for every Kekkei Genkai. It doesnt work that way. Hashirama's father never had Mokuton. In fact, none of Hashirama's descendants had Mokuton. That deals with your saying of DNA.
 
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If you think that Ashura never had Mokuton, then why the hell are you even in this thread?

And I forgot to add something in reply to your last post.
Who the hell told you that Sharingan can master Mokuton instantly? And Obito never used Mokuton, so what was that about Obito using Mokuton since childhood? Madara used Mokuton without any training. Do you remember what he said when he used Deep Forest Emergence? He said that he wanted to try it out meaning he was using it for the first time.


You need Kekkei Genkai for special chakra natures to work? It is not tat way for every Kekkei Genkai. It doesnt work that way. Hashirama's father never had Mokuton. In fact, none of Hashirama's descendants had Mokuton. That deals with your saying of DNA.

1. Sharingan has the ability to imitate and copy movements, including ninjutsu. That how Kakashi got his name "Copy Ninja".

2. Madara fought Hashirama his entire lifetime, its not surprising for him as a Sharingan user to pull Deep Forest Emergence in a instant.

3. Kekkei Genkai appears randomnly with its host, like DNA, its unique to the user. Some Kekkei Genkai (like Sharingan) are past down, and some are not.
 

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1. Sharingan has the ability to imitate and copy movements, including ninjutsu. That how Kakashi got his name "Copy Ninja".

2. Madara fought Hashirama his entire lifetime, its not surprising for him as a Sharingan user to pull Deep Forest Emergence in a instant.

3. Kekkei Genkai appears randomnly with its host, like DNA, its unique to the user. Some Kekkei Genkai (like Sharingan) are past down, and some are not.

Kakashi himself has mentioned that he cant copy everything. Thats why he wasnt able to copy Haku's Ice Style.
And even so, not every Sharingan user can copy ninjutsu. He must have the capability to use that jutsu in the first place. Why do you think that Sasuke learned Chidori and not just copy it?
Kakashi was special in that aspect. Not every Sharingan user have been able to copy jutsus. and for all we know, most of the jutsus Kakashi copied might be Taijutsu.
Why didnt Madara copy Mokuton when he was alive? It's simple he couldn't. As I said, every Sharingan user hasnt been shown to be able to copy ninjutsu. and copying a Kekkei Genkai is just impossible, as mentioned multiple times by Kakashi.


As I said, just because he's seen in doesnt mean he can use it. Tell Kakashi to use Rasenshuriken and you'll understand.

Kekkei genkai doesnt just pop up randomly. Most Kekkei Genkai that are formed by combining natures have been mastered, like Lava style, Gale style.
 

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Great post. Rep!

Before reading the post, I wouldnt have believed that Naruto needed Mokuton.(I mean he's already strong enough to pulverize Sasuke). But after reading it, I think it's quite probable that Naruto will soon use Mokuton and not just that, we might see many more jutsu from him.

Thanks man, I'm glad you liked it :)

Chakra Bloom?

If he wants to use another element without training he needs the already modified chakra handed to him, like the Tailed Beasts did with him.


According to Obito, Mokuton is a really difficult element to use and stabilize without proper training.

I doubt Naruto could ever use it without training, since Obito was taught since childhood. You either need Sharingan to master it instantly.

There's evidence of Naruto enhancing Mokuton from both Kaguya and Hashirama, there's also evidence that Ashura used Mokuton and Naruto using Torii gates [Hashirama's Mokuton Jutsu]. And we know that Ashura's chakra needs to bloom before the powers start showing up.

Naruto, after the chakra bloom will use the Mokuton, don't be surprised if you see him using Mokuton Jukai Koutan soon.
 

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he wont get it....he will probably get ashura bijuu avatar tho.
 

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he wont get it....he will probably get ashura bijuu avatar tho.

He already has far better Kurama Avatar, all he needs is the Mokuton which he will get as soon as the chakra blooms.
 

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He already has far better Kurama Avatar, all he needs is the Mokuton which he will get as soon as the chakra blooms.

I do not know what happen to me. but I starting to believe, that your theory is plausible, because as you mentioned it. No one had wood style except Hashirama. Something that does not make sense, because even KG would be pass down by the next generation. But even Hashirama´s father or his brother children or his granchildren had wood style.
 

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I do not know what happen to me. but I starting to believe, that your theory is plausible, because as you mentioned it. No one had wood style except Hashirama. Something that does not make sense, because even KG would be pass down by the next generation. But even Hashirama´s father or his brother children or his granchildren had wood style.

Nice to know :)

Good theory, Rep+ for effort !

Thanks man :)
 

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yup I'm expecting a battle of the the brothers' avatars and for them to just destroy the valley with op techs xd
 

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I'm still not quite sure about that, but if he does, it'll be the most potent and ridiculously op'd version you've ever seen.
 

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I'm still not quite sure about that, but if he does, it'll be the most potent and ridiculously op'd version you've ever seen.

Why it would make sense. Asura chakra need time to bloom. Hashirama used his power as an adult not as kid. And Hashirama is the only one that used wood style. Not his father, brother or his children or grandchildren have this ability.
 
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