Misconceptions about Chakra...

[Loki d]

1. Hagoromo did not give people chakra directly like how he did to Naruto and Sasuke. He taught people ninshu and it was Indra who sort of gave people chakra as chakra is born when two energies mix which are physical energy (stamina) and spiritual energy (mental energy) which is how people use and create Ninjutsu. The story Madara told was from his understanding which he did not know the full truth behind ninjutsu and chakra.

Hagoromo spreaded chakra by having kids he had *** with a human that is how he spread it with Indra inheriting all his power that is what it meant when its said he spreaded chakra. The Uchiha clan, Senju clan and other related clans are the only ones who had inherited fragments of his chakra or genes. Hagoromo also stayed to spread a teaching so people can stay peaceful.

People can create their own chakra and everyone does not have chakra because they don't train like samurai, shinobi and monks do. Literally it is everyone who trains or do some form of meditation are the only ones who use chakra. All animals/humans don't have chakra because all of them they don't train and learn ninjutsu/senjutsu. Like how people don't have senjutsu chakra because they didn't learn or train.

Ashura didn't inherit his father's power well he only inherited his father's genes which only gave him physical energy which is basically stamina like how Naruto is and how he could train for days. Like how the Uzumaki have longevity you wouldn't necessarily call this power like the Uchiha have. Ashura gained chakra by training like every other normal human.

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[Joon]

1. Hagoromo did not give people chakra directly like how he did to Naruto and Sasuke. He taught people ninshu and it was Indra who sort of gave people chakra as chakra is born when two energies mix which are physical energy (stamina) and spiritual energy (mental energy) which is how people use and create Ninjutsu. The story Madara told was from his understanding which he did not know the full truth behind ninjutsu and chakra.

Hagoromo spreaded chakra by having kids he had *** with a human that is how he spread it with Indra inheriting all his power that is what it meant when its said he spreaded chakra. The Uchiha clan, Senju clan and other related clans are the only ones who had inherited fragments of his chakra or genes. Hagoromo also stayed to spread a teaching so people can stay peaceful.

People can create their own chakra and everyone does not have chakra because they don't train like samurai, shinobi and monks do. Literally it is everyone who trains or do some form of meditation are the only ones who use chakra. All animals/humans don't have chakra because all of them they don't train and learn ninjutsu/senjutsu. Like how people don't have senjutsu chakra because they didn't learn or train.

Ashura didn't inherit his father's power well he only inherited his father's genes which only gave him physical energy which is basically stamina like how Naruto is and how he could train for days. Like how the Uzumaki have longevity you wouldn't necessarily call this power like the Uchiha have. Ashura gained chakra by training like every other normal human.

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The Sage of Six Paths taught Ninshuu and the people weaponized them. War was fought before the Sage of Six Paths time. So its possible for them to do.

 

[Angelic.]

if it needs chakra people didnt have it yet when kaguya used it

 

[SenseiSama]

He taught them how to convert their energy into chakra, people shared chakra with each other through Ninshuu, Hago wasn't the only one capable of using it.

Ashura did inherit his father's chakra but it had to bloom through hard training, it's not natural like it is to Indra. And even though he didn't inherit Rikudou chakra he still inherited the body of a Juubi Jin which is just as special.

 

[Seventh Sama]

Hagoromo did give people chakra. He did that by taking chakra from kaguya/ Juubi. That's why kaguya had to absorb chakra from the shinobi in MT to get closer to her original strength because the juubi in the war arc is a watered down version of the one hagoromo sealed into himself.

 

[Loki d]

Hagoromo did give people chakra. He did that by taking chakra from kaguya/ Juubi. That's why kaguya had to absorb chakra from the shinobi in MT to get closer to her original strength because the juubi in the war arc is a watered down version of the one hagoromo sealed into himself.

Hagoromo never sealed the juubi into himself. And Hagoromo never gave anything but teachings. Kaguya was using infinite tsukuyomi on people who didn't have chakra, the Shinju was literally collecting the blood of people to make chakra. Physical energy is in the cells and the cells are in the blood.

 

[Seventh Sama]

Hagoromo never sealed the juubi into himself. And Hagoromo never gave anything but teachings. Kaguya was using infinite tsukuyomi on people who didn't have chakra, the Shinju was literally collecting the blood of people to make chakra. Physical energy is in the cells and the cells are in the blood.

Are you serious? :|

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and did madara not make it clear enough that all chakra belonged to kaguya?

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[maniaoqan]

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All chakra came from the Juubi. Manga fact.

 

[Anime Godd]

Thread Closed that quick

 

[SatanicGod]

Hagoromo never sealed the juubi into himself. And Hagoromo never gave anything but teachings. Kaguya was using infinite tsukuyomi on people who didn't have chakra, the Shinju was literally collecting the blood of people to make chakra. Physical energy is in the cells and the cells are in the blood.

@bold I stopped taking you seriously right there.

It's been stated many times in the manga that he sealed the Juubi within himself at some point, that is how he managed to split up the chakra of it and create the Biju.

@the OP, everybody does have chakra it has been stated as well, otherwise how would animals be able to learn ninjutsu?? Not like they suddenly up and decided to practice it, especially the animals that can't even talk.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Don't try to understand/explain kaguya, Harogomo, etc's story. You'll only confuse yourself.

 

[Loki d]

@bold I stopped taking you seriously right there.

It's been stated many times in the manga that he sealed the Juubi within himself at some point, that is how he managed to split up the chakra of it and create the Biju.

@the OP, everybody does have chakra it has been stated as well, otherwise how would animals be able to learn ninjutsu?? Not like they suddenly up and decided to practice it, especially the animals that can't even talk.

Nah I just wanted people to post manga scans I'm complicated

 

[Loki d]

Are you serious? :|

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and did madara not make it clear enough that all chakra belonged to kaguya?

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All chakra came from the Juubi. Manga fact.

The juubi is both Kaguya and the Shinju. Kaguya could have contributed to the creation of chakra by eating the fruit of the Shinju with her being non human. The fact still stands that the Shinju absorbed blood from people to produce the chakra fruit.

"The Byakugan, Sharingan, and Infinite Tsukuyomi - the people feared and respected the jutsu Kaguya wielded. Eventually, the "Rabbit Goddess" became known as a demon instead. And then, Kaguya became ruled by her desire to make all chakra her own."

"To make all chakra one - Kaguya's desire eventually turned on Hagoromo and Hamura, her own twin sons with whom she had split her chakra."

She used infinite tsukuyomi on people who did not have any chakra but they had the two components that makes chakra.

Everyone already had chakra in a sense they just did not know how to unlock it. Hagoromo taught people Ninshu. Indra taught people ninjutsu.

 

[Rikodou Mode]

Hagoromo did not give it to everyone, the few people that were given chakra also learned Ninshuu and passed it on to others themselves until it started being used for warfare. It's impossible to have one man pass chakra to everyone when Kage Bunshin didn't even exist.

 

[Loki d]

Chakra was never the shinju's to begin with and it was only Kaguya who was trying to unite all chakra back in her time when people didn't have chakra but still had the two components that make it with that said the two components can be gathered and combined to create another fruit so she can be more powerful. Like how Senjutsu users gather nature energy.

 

[Kirokill]

Chakra isn't always blue. Here's my wisdom.

 

[Seventh Sama]

The juubi is both Kaguya and the Shinju. Kaguya could have contributed to the creation of chakra by eating the fruit of the Shinju with her being non human. The fact still stands that the Shinju absorbed blood from people to produce the chakra fruit.

"The Byakugan, Sharingan, and Infinite Tsukuyomi - the people feared and respected the jutsu Kaguya wielded. Eventually, the "Rabbit Goddess" became known as a demon instead. And then, Kaguya became ruled by her desire to make all chakra her own."

"To make all chakra one - Kaguya's desire eventually turned on Hagoromo and Hamura, her own twin sons with whom she had split her chakra."

She used infinite tsukuyomi on people who did not have any chakra but they had the two components that makes chakra.

Everyone already had chakra in a sense they just did not know how to unlock it. Hagoromo taught people Ninshu. Indra taught people ninjutsu.

You're wrong.

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[BenjerminGaye]

Hagoromo did not give it to everyone, the few people that were given chakra also learned Ninshuu and passed it on to others themselves until it started being used for warfare. It's impossible to have one man pass chakra to everyone when Kage Bunshin didn't even exist.

Asura did the passing.

 

[Loki d]

You're wrong.

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Nah can you provide a viz scan because that scan is a little confusing.

Edit: Nevermind I understand it now. Hagoromo spreaded chakra by teaching and that teaching became Ninshu.

In that scan you posted I believe that when Madara said Rikudo spread chakra he meant ninshu or he didn't but they are the same thing in a sense.

Ninshu: A power that links individuals brought about peace and order.

"Leaving leadership of the clan to his brother, Hagoromo stayed in these lands. He fundamentally believed that Chakra was a power that linked everything in the world. Filled with righteous purpose, he set out to spread this message to the people of this land. His teachings became known as Ninshu—the Shinobi creed—and they should have brought about eternal peace"

Ashura and Hagoromo taught Ninshu which is chakra in the form of peace.

Now let's take a look at ninjutsu

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Chakra is made of spiritual and physical energy and that is how you create chakra which is the same way ninjutsu is created. Also this viz scans says people already have chakra and that they used chakra to connect their inner energies however the chakra that Hagoromo was not the chakra people think it is it was a teaching. So they used his teaching specifically Indra to create ninjutsu/chakra.

Indra taught people Ninjutsu which is chakra in the form of war.

Hagoromo and Ashura taught ninshu which produced and a different chakra with a different effect. Or it was the same chakra produced but different purpose and effect.

You can't gain or possess chakra without some form of teaching and training. Ashura learned and trained awakening his own chakra through ninshu and senjutsu methods.

Conclusion: There are two different teachings that are the embodiment of chakra. Chakra is taught to people in the form of Ninshu and Ninjutsu that is how it is spreaded.

 

[Loki d]

Chakra isn't always blue. Here's my wisdom.

Ninshu and Ninjutsu correct?

Hagoromo did not give it to everyone, the few people that were given chakra also learned Ninshuu and passed it on to others themselves until it started being used for warfare. It's impossible to have one man pass chakra to everyone when Kage Bunshin didn't even exist.

Hagoromo taught chakra to people as Ninshu and Indra taught chakra to people as Ninjutsu. They were given chakra through ninshu and ninjutsu.