Misconception: The myth about Minato's Kunai

[siyo]

Why discuss a hypothetical issue? We have not seen Minato use wind, or even a single mention, where it was stated that he mastered said element, thus it’s dumb to argue. As far as we know, Minato did not have wind and the discussion should end there i.e that would be a very bad misconception .

I also don’t believe that Kunai would do anything to A, but Killer B apparently thought so, he actually intervened before we saw the end result.Although I just interpreted that as Bee being overprotective, which means it was merely a safety precaution. They were also two against one and, of course, any opening should be exploited especially against a superior opponent.

 

[Blaze Release]

Why discuss a hypothetical issue? We have not seen Minato use wind, or even a single mention, where it was stated that he mastered said element, thus it’s dumb to argue. As far as we know, Minato did not have wind and the discussion should end there i.e that would be a very bad misconception .

Read comment 37, thats one of the reasons why i mentioned the wind infused kunai.
Funny isnt it?. Didnt even bother replying

 

[siyo]

Read comment 37, thats one of the reasons why i mentioned the wind infused kunai.
Funny isnt it?. Didnt even bother replying

Lol, fanfiction is allowed just not in canon based discussions.

 

[Baka Sennin]

yeah, but Minato's kunai wasn't infused with any chakra when it cut Bee's tentacle was it. It was pure strength as opposed to Sasuke's A-rank technique. We don't even know if Minato can infuse his chakra into weapons, wind and lightning lend themselves to weapons best anyway and Minato might not have those natures.

so, Chidori>kunai definitely

but we have no information on Chidori> chakra infused heavier kunai. Danzo's wind kunai ran sasuke clean through, but so did Sasuke with Danzo. So I'd guess they'd have similar penetrating capabilities, which may not be enough to beat A. Of course, a small cut to the back of the head or neck or spine as opposed to the pectoral can become a very big thing, but that's if Minato can manage to penetrate the cloak in the first place, which we don't have any evidence towards

 

[The Eye]

Your theory forgot one crucial point. Minato Kunai showed no sign of wind infused in it. It was only a theory that he had win chakra because he son has it. Minato element(s) was never shown, it is just stated that a person who becomes a jounin has at least 2 elements.

Secondly, minato looked surprised to me to see the tentacle, his sheer strength alone was able to cut it, though his aim was for A

 

[Blaze Release]

Your theory forgot one crucial point. Minato Kunai showed no sign of wind infused in it. It was only a theory that he had win chakra because he son has it. Minato element(s) was never shown, it is just stated that a person who becomes a jounin has at least 2 elements.

Secondly, minato looked surprised to me to see the tentacle, his sheer strength alone was able to cut it, though his aim was for A

What i said wasnt a theory and infact youve proven what im trying to say when you said the bold part. Reason i included was because people claimed he did. Look at comment 37 for example :sy:

 

[The Eye]

What i said wasnt a theory and infact youve proven what im trying to say when you said the bold part. Reason i included was because people claimed he did. Look at comment 37 for example :sy:

yea, its only a theory that he has it because his son has wind. i was editing my comment but you responded before i can finish the sentence about you forgot one crucial part,(underestimating minato)..then follow up with the strength thing but yea yea, my mistake.

 

[TrollingSage]

I can't believe that most users here can't analyze the situation clearly. There is a big gap between the length of Minato's kunai to that of the tentacle as shown here

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If you'll compare the diameter of the tentacle to that of the kunai's length then it's very clear that there is a very big gap between them. How was he able to slice the tentacle? Even if Minato were to apply a great speed, the fact still remains that the deepness of the cut can be measured by the length of the kunai. Get my point?

Here is a better view:

Try to cut a 5 inch diameter papaya with a 1 inch knife. Can you cut it in half? or the deepness of the cut depends on the length of the blade? A 1 inch knife can produce a 1 inch deep cut. No matter how fast you are, you can't make a cut of 3 inches if you only have a 1 inch knife.

To sum it all, it's possiblethat it is infused with a wind chakra. Why?

Here are the reasons:

1. Jiraiya said that Minato was a shrewd person, and was not a man who would do something without reason.

take note of the bolded part

Why would he attempt to stab A knowing that A is using lightning shroud? Is that a trait of someone considered to be a shrewd person?

2. Wind>Lightning

We all know this one right? So, If we connect these two reasons, it will lead us to believe that Minato has wind affinity. It is possiblethat he infused wind chakra because the cut is too deep. It is more than the length of his kunai.

This! If we are going by minato having wind element which is UNCONFIRMED
Minato's attack technique and kunai quality will definately play a part too.
@Blaze Release u just can make assumption about the intent of a character or use a chain reaction line of argument to determine the strength of an attack because it is situational!
Bottomline minato wasnt using just a heavy kunai on the tentacles so why would he attack a shinobi of A's level with just a heavy kunai. If he infused element, he made it subtile and caught A off guard. If it was just due to quality of skill and equipment, he would still achive his desired result judging from the tentacles situation
Your mistake was assume sasuke chidoris slice is equivalent to a kunai attack whether wind infused or not

 

[narutownsyouall]

???????

What?

Why did you compare a small kunai which almost cut through the Bee's tail to a huge ass Chidori sword??

Obviously it wouldn't go all the way through its like the size of a big phone. And the chidori sword is like the size of a telephone pole. This thread is mega invalid!!!

 

[Simplified]

..You're seriously comparing top notch ninjutsu to a kunai?

Plus, he didn't infuse wind chakra with his kunai, well it hasn't been shown anyway.

the real threat of Minato's kunai is that he can move to it instantly, because it is marked. If you become marked, same thing goes for your body.

 

[AARB]

why can't the kunai be just that sharp to cut the tentacle.it is not confirmed yet whether he has wind nature or not

 

[Blaze Release]

???????

What?

Why did you compare a small kunai which almost cut through the Bee's tail to a huge ass Chidori sword??

Obviously it wouldn't go all the way through its like the size of a big phone. And the chidori sword is like the size of a telephone pole. This thread is mega invalid!!!

omg, people on nb never cease to amaze me. :sy:
The whole point of the thread was to state that the kunai wouldnt have penetrated A.

The wind bit is a side note that i needed to clarify because of comments ive heard

 

[Ryuu..]

I can't believe that most users here can't analyze the situation clearly. There is a big gap between the length of Minato's kunai to that of the tentacle as shown here

You must be registered for see images

If you'll compare the diameter of the tentacle to that of the kunai's length then it's very clear that there is a very big gap between them. How was he able to slice the tentacle? Even if Minato were to apply a great speed, the fact still remains that the deepness of the cut can be measured by the length of the kunai. Get my point?

Here is a better view:

Try to cut a 5 inch diameter papaya with a 1 inch knife. Can you cut it in half? or the deepness of the cut depends on the length of the blade? A 1 inch knife can produce a 1 inch deep cut. No matter how fast you are, you can't make a cut of 3 inches if you only have a 1 inch knife.

To sum it all, it's possiblethat it is infused with a wind chakra. Why?

Here are the reasons:

1. Jiraiya said that Minato was a shrewd person, and was not a man who would do something without reason.

take note of the bolded part

Why would he attempt to stab A knowing that A is using lightning shroud? Is that a trait of someone considered to be a shrewd person?

2. Wind>Lightning

We all know this one right? So, If we connect these two reasons, it will lead us to believe that Minato has wind affinity. It is possiblethat he infused wind chakra because the cut is too deep. It is more than the length of his kunai.

Well evaluated.

 

[Faceless VoiD]

Read comment 37, thats one of the reasons why i mentioned the wind infused kunai.
Funny isnt it?. Didnt even bother replying

*Sigh/..

He based his arguments through a simple demonstration, backed-up by certain facts stated in the manga. What's so funny about that? Besides, he didn't even state it directly that Minato infused wind chakra to the kunai, he only said it was possible. He gave some points & there's nothing wrong about it. If you dislike his opinion, at least be reasonable. Mocking one's opinion regardless if he/she have some points or not is so infuriating especially when the one's delivering an assumptions were well-mannered.

 

[Uchiha Riyo]

Minato's kunai probably has the same cutting power as a normal kunai, I don't see why people assume he has fuuton.

 

[ajpn920]

Well evaluated.

Thanks

 

[Vin Thora]

Minato used good-old fashioned strength to cut the tail....not a very powerful jutsu (chidori). The guy's incredibly strong.....

I know you're a Minato hater, and idc tbh, but dont go around spreading the hate.....

 

[Dantee]

People just love to hype Minato with all these mystery powers lol. Unbelievable.

 

[TrollingSage]

omg, people on nb never cease to amaze me. :sy:
The whole point of the thread was to state that the kunai wouldnt have penetrated A.

The wind bit is a side note that i needed to clarify because of comments ive heard

That is a bs theory on your part. If sasuke used chidori hands to cut tentacles and almost penetrate A, then surely minato could? I dont get ur analysis of minato's attack being inferior whether chakra infused or not. The kunai did what chidori did in a more impressive way given the surface area. I dont understand how this can interpreted differently:scorps:
Personally I dont think his kunai was chakra infused but rather gain incredible penetration due to instantaneous speed. He would have done the same to A.

 

[Blaze Release]

Minato used good-old fashioned strength to cut the tail....not a very powerful jutsu (chidori). The guy's incredibly strong.....

I know you're a Minato hater, and idc tbh, but dont go around spreading the hate.....

Not a big fan of hating a fictional character, so no i dont hate anybody in naruto. You on the underhand we know hate sasuke and have already admitted it. Tbh what ive noticed is that when you try and correct minato fans on their misconceptions they cannot handle it and call you a hater instead :shrug:

That is a bs theory on your part. If sasuke used chidori hands to cut tentacles and almost penetrate A, then surely minato could? I dont get ur analysis of minato's attack being inferior whether chakra infused or not. The kunai did what chidori did in a more impressive way given the surface area. I dont understand how this can interpreted differently:scorps:
Personally I dont think his kunai was chakra infused but rather gain incredible penetration due to instantaneous speed. He would have done the same to A.

What im trying to say is that sasuke's lighting attack cut right through the tentacle (also note the thickness of the part it cut). Minato's kunai cut through majority of the tentacle, but not all the way through. Also note that the part it cut was not as dense (thick) as the part that sasuke did.

Going by what sasuke accomplished with his lightning attack and what minato accomplished, what im trying to say is that the kunai wouldve either not affected him at all, or wouldve done the little damage to A no different to what sasuke's attack did