Misconception: The myth about Minato's Kunai

[Blaze Release]

Who has ever said that Minato had wind infused kunai?

This has'nt been stated anywhere. As for the cutting part, the kunai did clearly cut the tentacle, you'd have to be blind not to see that. At the most, the dissected part was just barely connected to the main tentacle. And no duh chidori cut through more cleanly, its chidori, that was just a kunai lol. But this proves that either:
- there was something special about Minato's kunai
- Minato had immense physical strength.

Also, no other character has been shown to achieve such results of physical penetration with such a simple ninja tool(w/o an element infusion). This is why Minato is OP: using simple tools/methods, and producing devastating results on his enemies.

At the highlighted part, you'd be surprised. The kunai did cut but not all the way. Also that was mainly a speed feat, when he cut the 8 tails tentacles

 

[Izzy..]

Minato is a pretty impressive guy. Simple yet effective tactics.

 

[~Uzumaki~]

kunai have no power, its simply physical strength, Kakashi snapped Pain's chakra blade which Shizune couldn't cut with knives, the knives broke so this shouldn't be too much of a feat

 

[NarutoKage2]

At the highlighted part, you'd be surprised. The kunai did cut but not all the way. Also that was mainly a speed feat, when he cut the 8 tails tentacles

Who, really?

That's not the point, it cut 99.9% of the way. And no. If you stick your hand out of a moving car and it strikes a pole, the pole won't go down, your arm would break.
In the same way, the speed should have hurt his arm had he not had exceptional physical strength/strong kunai.

 

[Flame Alchemist]

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that's how a wind infused kunai looks like. or asuma's blades as we already know.
but minato's kunai didn't have any difference than it's normal look. so it wasn't chakra infused. and without any chakra infusion, a kunai can't do a thing to raikage no matter what kind of force were to push it.

and who said that minato has wind nature? he's not shown to be using it, not even once. and no one mentioned his nature so far.

 

[Blaze Release]

Who, really?

That's not the point, it cut 99.9% of the way. And no. If you stick your hand out of a moving car and it strikes a pole, the pole won't go down, your arm would break.
In the same way, the speed should have hurt his arm had he not had exceptional physical strength/strong kunai.

You should enter certain thread more often, thats all im saying.

Look at it this way. You have a hammer. You have a nail and your aim is to insert the nail in a piece of wood. At your first try the pace you use to hit the nail was relatively slow, the nail would hardly penetrate the wood.

At your second try you hit the top of nail with greater pace with your hammer. I believe the nail would penetrate alot further, dont you :shrug:

 

[Zawar]

4th dont use a chakra charged kunai
its just a summoning jutsu on the kunai that lets him teleports to kunai easily
4th is not powerfull due to his kunai
he is due to his techniques like rasengan and etc
u cant say rasengan < chidori

 

[NarutoKage2]

You should enter certain thread more often, thats all im saying.

Look at it this way. You have a hammer. You have a nail and your aim is to insert the nail in a piece of wood. At your first try the pace you use to hit the nail was relatively slow, the nail would hardly penetrate the wood.

At your second try you hit the top of nail with greater pace with your hammer. I believe the nail would penetrate alot further, dont you :shrug:

Nah no thanks i try to stay out of spam threads, its been tough recently because there's nothing going on in the manga to discuss.

Well of course. And what does that have to do with the effect on the user? If you hammer it harder, your hand feels the effect of the force more, Newton's 3rd law of motion, for every action there's an equal and opposite reaction on the other body. The faster your hand moves, the greater the force of the hammer exerted on the nail, thus the greater the reaction will be on your hand as well.

So if that was a speed feat, why was'nt Minato hurt as there will be a great force exerted on his arm(as a reaction) of impacting the tentacle with great speed?

 

[Blaze Release]

Nah no thanks i try to stay out of spam threads, its been tough recently because there's nothing going on in the manga to discuss.

Well of course. And what does that have to do with the effect on the user? If you hammer it harder, your hand feels the effect of the force more, Newton's 3rd law of motion, for every action there's an equal and opposite reaction on the other body. The faster your hand moves, the greater the force of the hammer exerted on the nail, thus the greater the reaction will be on your hand as well.

So if that was a speed feat, why was'nt Minato hurt as there will be a great force exerted on his arm(as a reaction) of impacting the tentacle with great speed?

Ow boy i try to leave science out of manga as much as possible because i doubt kishi thinks about everything we just said. Its a combination of speed and strength, but more on the speed side and if you look he was coming down on the tentacle with a knife/kunai

EDIT: Also the wind thing werent minato haters, but minato fans saying this.

 

[cozolinofly]

if Wind is better than lighting then doesnt mean a E rank wind attack will destroy a S rank attack ... ..Sasuke's lighting MAYBE was more powerfull than minato's wind kunai (btw i added random ranks and said this in order to avoid retarded comments towards me)

 

[teetooktier]

It was explicitly stated by Kisame that lightning offers better penetration than wind. Good post OP.

 

[irishboy9780]

Wind is strong against lightning, not stronger than lightning.

While i agree with the OP this is definitly true. Wind nature is strong against Lightning nature not wind nature is stronger than lighting nature. Just becuase wind would best lightning 1v1 does not mean that it will have the same or stronger effect on a mutual target. Still as many people have already said the 4 hokage has not shown any nature at this point that i know of so we don't even know for sure that he even had wind nature.

 

[HakkeKoshu]

EDIT: Some people do believe that minato infused his wind chakra (they have secret pages to the manga that nobody else has) and thats why i used asuma as an example.

What.

 

[Blaze Release]

What.

This is an example that i could in another thread;

Maybe in power it's stronger, but don't forget elements. Wind>Lightning. So if Minato used wind element at this moment he had much more chance to hurt A than Sasuke with his chidori even if his jutsu is not that strong. And again look carefully at that pic. It hasn't only cut through 8tails tentacle, but it has also destroy the floor in an important scale just with one move.

That isnt the first time i keep on hearing this. People usually claim many things.
Actually have another thread in mind about the rennigan. People keep claiming false things about it

 

[Uchihas with Big Guns]

Minato Clearly sliced not stabbed that tentacle also people claiming he was gonna stab A u have no proof because that's just the position he grabbed the kunai in

He most likely was gonna rasengan him but bee intervened which minato having great reflexes seen & reacted to

 

[Minator93]

Who has ever said that Minato had wind infused kunai?

This has'nt been stated anywhere. As for the cutting part, the kunai did clearly cut the tentacle, you'd have to be blind not to see that. At the most, the dissected part was just barely connected to the main tentacle. And no duh chidori cut through more cleanly, its chidori, that was just a kunai lol. But this proves that either:
- there was something special about Minato's kunai
- Minato had immense physical strength.

Also, no other character has been shown to achieve such results of physical penetration with such a simple ninja tool(w/o an element infusion). This is why Minato is OP: using simple tools/methods, and producing devastating results on his enemies.

This :scorps:

 

[ajpn920]

I can't believe that most users here can't analyze the situation clearly. There is a big gap between the length of Minato's kunai to that of the tentacle as shown here

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If you'll compare the diameter of the tentacle to that of the kunai's length then it's very clear that there is a very big gap between them. How was he able to slice the tentacle? Even if Minato were to apply a great speed, the fact still remains that the deepness of the cut can be measured by the length of the kunai. Get my point?

Here is a better view:

Try to cut a 5 inch diameter papaya with a 1 inch knife. Can you cut it in half? or the deepness of the cut depends on the length of the blade? A 1 inch knife can produce a 1 inch deep cut. No matter how fast you are, you can't make a cut of 3 inches if you only have a 1 inch knife.

To sum it all, it's possiblethat it is infused with a wind chakra. Why?

Here are the reasons:

1. Jiraiya said that Minato was a shrewd person, and was not a man who would do something without reason.

take note of the bolded part

Why would he attempt to stab A knowing that A is using lightning shroud? Is that a trait of someone considered to be a shrewd person?

2. Wind>Lightning

We all know this one right? So, If we connect these two reasons, it will lead us to believe that Minato has wind affinity. It is possiblethat he infused wind chakra because the cut is too deep. It is more than the length of his kunai.

 

[BONTUL]

Meh... :shrug:

 

[ssaz]

In Minato vs A fight, kishi focused on the point that Minato was even faster than A. He neglected other minor details. That kunai was definitely a threat else Bee is not one of those who would get his tentacle injured for a stupid reason like that. I bet Kishi wouldn't have even thought about that sasuke fight while making this fight else there is not point in Bee interfering and Raikage looking back with that f**ked up face. :shrug:

 

[Cerox0]

If the same level technique was to meet, wind would come out on top therefore yes its stronger

If the same level technique worked on A that it did on Bee despite whatever element was used it would have been equal not on top. It'd only be inferior or superior when they go against each other. Everything else true though