Misconception: Sakura > Hinata

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This thread is to enlighten people(and the troll who made this thread:| ) who think Sakura would beat Hinata which is completely false. I will say that this is going to be a long detailed post so be prepared.

I will start off saying that both fighters are CQC fighters, Sakura has skills in taijutsu but compared to Hinata who is a specialist in taijutsu, it pales in comparison in terms of skill and versatility. Sakura would get exposed.

Difference between Sakura dodging skills and taijutsu fighters(Hinata) dodging skills:

- Sakura's dodging skills depend on her ability to anticipate.

- A taijutsu fighter(Hinata) dodging skills are more dependent on reflexes.

You might ask " why does Sakura depends very little on reflexes?"
- Because she couldn't dodge from the start, she needs time to observe attack patterns

Explanation in the graphs below:
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- Notice that using the basketball analogy: If someone were to throw a number of basketballs towards Sakura, she can calculate the trajectory of each one and thus move. But this does not make her a good basketball player: In a 1v1 against a basketball player, that player surely won't make his movements easy to anticipate and travel in predictable ways.

- Sakura thus anticipates the path of projectiles they are far away, and thus earns herself a greater time margin of action. However since it's not instinctive, it means that she needs time to figure out attack patterns as well, instead of having constant dodging skills like a taijutsu fighter(Hinata) do.

Difference between a pure dodger's reaction to an attack(Sakura) and a taijutsu fighter's(Hinata) reaction to an attack:

- Pure dodger's reaction: jump out of the way

- Taijutsu fighter's reaction: either avoid an attack by a few centimeters, block, deflect or parry, then counter-attack. The precision of the maneuvering must be that much more precise to avoid getting hit.
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Sakura's reaction is most likely the top part of the image above

Difference between Sakura's attacks and a taijutsu fighter's(Hinata) attacks:

- Sakura attacks is indeed powerful, but needs more accuracy and a wider maneuvering arc. Kinda like swinging a sledgehammer.

- A taijutsu fighter's(Hinata) might not have punches as strikes as physically strong, but they are more flexible/versatile in their attacks.
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- Much like with dodging, Sakura needs anticipation: she anticipates the trajectory of a moving target and times her hits because of the accuracy it needs. This is different from many taijutsu fighters, who can strike on instinctive reactions so to say.

- THIS POINT IS CRUCIAL TO KNOW. After an attempted strike, Sakura leaves herself easily opened to counter-attacks. A taijutsu fighter doesn't stay in a still position after a strike: he/she goes into an defensive position or follows up with quick/fast attacks in case he/she has missed.

As you can see in the image below, Sakura knows she only destroyed the outer shell, sasori still inside, in short the situation is far from safe. Yet even as Sasori managed to jump back several meters, she still is frozen in that positon. A taijutsu fighter would of immediately retracted their fist and enter a defensive position instead of leaving themselves open for an counter-attack.

And again she is in the same position which would leave her open to counter-attacks to a fighter like Hinata.
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As for Hinata, she would be able to exploit Sakura's strikes by parrying, dodging, deflecting or blocking them leaving Sakura open for counter-attacks in which Hinata would take advantage of then counter with Jyuuken.

Ex. of her dodging, parrying, deflecting, blocking and counter-attacking abilities:




In Conclusion:

Yes Sakura is skilled in taijutsu which the fight will come down too, but in a fight against Hinata who is clearly the more skilled one between the two, Sakura would lose to her or at best draw. And before someone says "but Sakura is only .5 less in taijutsu than Hinata according to the 3rd databook "I will tell you that this is mainly because of her brute strength being superhuman level while her skill is piss poor at best. Hinata has a 3.5 in taijutsu according to the 3rd databook mainly because of her overall skill and versatility in this particular area.

I left out a couple of things that would factor into Hinata's favor like her air palm becuase i'm tired of typing xd. That is all:scorps:
 

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Well most of the people already think that Hinata is stronger, so this is not really a misconception..
 

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I said that many times: both can kill each other quickly and they are pretty much even when it comes to speed. The outcome of fight would depend mostly on luck, neither is definietly stronger, although Sakura is overall more skilled as kunoichi since, shes not only a fighter.
"but Sakura is only .5 less in taijutsu than Hinata according to the 3rd databook "I will tell you that this is mainly because of her brute strength
Strenght has nothing to do with that, its completely different stat.
 

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no just no

sakura is expert at dodging close range attacks being a medical ninja. One sakura punch can literally kill hinata
end of story

the only contest hinata would win against sakura is boob size contest
:D
 

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Well most of the people already think that Hinata is stronger, so this is not really a misconception..
your right but some people still think that sakura > hinata, this is for them.
I said that many times: both can kill each other quickly and they are pretty much even when it comes to speed. The outcome of fight would depend mostly on luck, neither is definietly stronger, although Sakura is overall more skilled as kunoichi since, shes not only a fighter.

true both of them could kill each other but i think hinata would have the greater chance due to skill
 
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I dont think i have ever seen anyone say Hinata was STRONGER. But good thread effort wise. Not sure why was nec. thou.
 

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the only misconception is that you think you know better than everyone else i didnt read your long useless shit but i have read enough misconception threads to know your opinion matters no more or no less than anyone elses
 

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no just no

sakura is expert at dodging close range attacks being a medical ninja. One sakura punch can literally kill hinata
end of story

the only contest hinata would win against sakura is boob size contest
:D
:sy: so much fail in this post
I dont think i have ever seen anyone say Hinata was STRONGER. But good thread effort wise. Not sure why was nec. thou.

true... but i wanted to make sure to explain to the people that didn't know that

@Zombie you sound kinda butt hurt... what's wrong.

xdi didn't say that i was better than anybody i made this thread to inform, while you wasted your time and mine by writing a stupid ass comment
 
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It comes down to who can get the 1st hit. IMO


According to Kakashi, What is the point of having strength if you can't hit your opponent. Medical Ninjas are not meant for Close Combat.

Hinata on the hand is. Medical Ninjas need good chakra control. The Gentle Fist interrupts their chakra control.

BUT if Sakura manages to hit Hinata... It's gonna hurt... a lot. Considering Hinata's nature.. she's not a violent person, unless Naruto's life is on the line.

I'd say they're about even.
 

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Sakura would win.

I'm sorry, i really dont even like her. Your using Taijutsu as the basis of your arguement, but you dont realize Sakura is a ONE HIT KILL. F everything else. And you may say that she has to LAND this one hit, but she will have plenty of time. Why? B/C she is a medical nin, the student of the most legendary medical nin in history. SHE WILL CONSTANTLY BE ABLE TO HEAL HERSELF FROM WOUNDS. Hinata will NOT be able to do this. I may take a while, but when Hinata starts taking damage she wont have the sheer stamina to last.

FYI... Just as Tsunade punched through Madara's Ultimate Defense: Sussanoo... Sakura would be able to punch through Hinata's Ultimate Defense: That "Spinning Triagrams" shit. lol



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Hinata's. Original palm lazer jutsu thing (360 deg defense offense combo) would nullify sakura's speed and strength.
 

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Sakura would win.

I'm sorry, i really dont even like her. Your using Taijutsu as the basis of your arguement, but you dont realize Sakura is a ONE HIT KILL. F everything else. And you may say that she has to LAND this one hit, but she will have plenty of time. Why? B/C she is a medical nin, the student of the most legendary medical nin in history. SHE WILL CONSTANTLY BE ABLE TO HEAL HERSELF FROM WOUNDS. Hinata will NOT be able to do this. I may take a while, but when Hinata starts taking damage she wont have the sheer stamina to last.

bolded: FYI... Just as Tsunade punched through Madara's Ultimate Defense: Sussanoo... Sakura would be able to punch through Hinata's Ultimate Defense: That "Spinning Triagrams" shit. lol



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i based most of this thread on their taijutsu because they are CQC fighters and it will come down to taijutsu. i agree that if she lands a strike then hinata is finished but i doubt she would connect as my OP explains... the same can be said for hinata, she would probably only need 2-3 gentle fists strikes to end her.;)

lol what? hinata's defense is parrying/dodging strikes and countering
 

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Rofl this is what would happen.

Sakura goes in to punch. Hinata dodges, 1,000 Trigram Gentle Fist into the neck. Hinata wins.
 

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no just no

sakura is expert at dodging close range attacks being a medical ninja. One sakura punch can literally kill hinata
end of story

the only contest hinata would win against sakura is boob size contest
:D

Her punch CAN kill just about any character in the series not including edos. But the problem is whether or not she can land a direct punch on someone....
 

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Exactly. I skimmed and saw you think Hinata can parry Sakura? LOL she would prob get her arm broken doing that.

Sakura has medical skills, as long as no major chakra points are blocked, she can heal.

You also stated somewhere when i skimmed, that Sakura dodges by jumping completely out of the way. The ONLY real fight we've seen her in thus far was against Sasori, where she had to dodge gigantic objects. Good luck "dodging by a few centimeters and countering" that, Hinata!

Bottom line, we haven't seen much from either character fighting wise in part 2. But i've seen enough of Sakura to say she is skilled at what she does, and so is Hinata. Once she sees gentle fist up close, Sakura would anticipate and dodge it. Her brute strength can crush the ground distracting hinata, etc. Sakura > Hinata until I see Hinata take a skilled person out.
 

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Exactly. I skimmed and saw you think Hinata can parry Sakura? LOL she would prob get her arm broken doing that.

Sakura has medical skills, as long as no major chakra points are blocked, she can heal.

You also stated somewhere when i skimmed, that Sakura dodges by jumping completely out of the way. The ONLY real fight we've seen her in thus far was against Sasori, where she had to dodge gigantic objects. Good luck "dodging by a few centimeters and countering" that, Hinata!

Bottom line, we haven't seen much from either character fighting wise in part 2. But i've seen enough of Sakura to say she is skilled at what she does, and so is Hinata. Once she sees gentle fist up close, Sakura would anticipate and dodge it. Her brute strength can crush the ground distracting hinata, etc. Sakura > Hinata until I see Hinata take a skilled person out.

bolded: lol do you know what parrying attacks mean... if you don't basically it is deflection, blocking, or evading attacks which would leave the opponent open for counters, how will sakura break her arm when she misses.:|

if you didn't read my post i explained when she dodges strikes she puts herself out of position to counter attack. we all know she has powerful strikes but you have to hit you opponent to win.;)

yes both haven't gotten alot of screen time but until i see more from sakura fighting wise, hinata > sakura
 

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This thread is to enlighten people(and the troll who made this thread:| ) who think Sakura would beat Hinata which is completely false. I will say that this is going to be a long detailed post so be prepared.

I will start off saying that both fighters are CQC fighters, Sakura has skills in taijutsu but compared to Hinata who is a specialist in taijutsu, it pales in comparison in terms of skill and versatility. Sakura would get exposed.

Difference between Sakura dodging skills and taijutsu fighters(Hinata) dodging skills:

- Sakura's dodging skills depend on her ability to anticipate.

- A taijutsu fighter(Hinata) dodging skills are more dependent on reflexes.

You might ask " why does Sakura depends very little on reflexes?"
- Because she couldn't dodge from the start, she needs time to observe attack patterns

Explanation in the graphs below:
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- Notice that using the basketball analogy: If someone were to throw a number of basketballs towards Sakura, she can calculate the trajectory of each one and thus move. But this does not make her a good basketball player: In a 1v1 against a basketball player, that player surely won't make his movements easy to anticipate and travel in predictable ways.

- Sakura thus anticipates the path of projectiles they are far away, and thus earns herself a greater time margin of action. However since it's not instinctive, it means that she needs time to figure out attack patterns as well, instead of having constant dodging skills like a taijutsu fighter(Hinata) do.

Difference between a pure dodger's reaction to an attack(Sakura) and a taijutsu fighter's(Hinata) reaction to an attack:

- Pure dodger's reaction: jump out of the way

- Taijutsu fighter's reaction: either avoid an attack by a few centimeters, block, deflect or parry, then counter-attack. The precision of the maneuvering must be that much more precise to avoid getting hit.
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Sakura's reaction is most likely the top part of the image above

Difference between Sakura's attacks and a taijutsu fighter's(Hinata) attacks:

- Sakura attacks is indeed powerful, but needs more accuracy and a wider maneuvering arc. Kinda like swinging a sledgehammer.

- A taijutsu fighter's(Hinata) might not have punches as strikes as physically strong, but they are more flexible/versatile in their attacks.
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- Much like with dodging, Sakura needs anticipation: she anticipates the trajectory of a moving target and times her hits because of the accuracy it needs. This is different from many taijutsu fighters, who can strike on instinctive reactions so to say.

- THIS POINT IS CRUCIAL TO KNOW. After an attempted strike, Sakura leaves herself easily opened to counter-attacks. A taijutsu fighter doesn't stay in a still position after a strike: he/she goes into an defensive position or follows up with quick/fast attacks in case he/she has missed.

As you can see in the image below, Sakura knows she only destroyed the outer shell, sasori still inside, in short the situation is far from safe. Yet even as Sasori managed to jump back several meters, she still is frozen in that positon. A taijutsu fighter would of immediately retracted their fist and enter a defensive position instead of leaving themselves open for an counter-attack.

And again she is in the same position which would leave her open to counter-attacks to a fighter like Hinata.
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"]http://www.narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/269/18[/IMG][/URL]

As for Hinata, she would be able to exploit Sakura's strikes by parrying, dodging, deflecting or blocking them leaving Sakura open for counter-attacks in which Hinata would take advantage of then counter with Jyuuken.

Ex. of her dodging, parrying, deflecting, blocking and counter-attacking abilities:




In Conclusion:

Yes Sakura is skilled in taijutsu which the fight will come down too, but in a fight against Hinata who is clearly the more skilled one between the two, Sakura would lose to her or at best draw. And before someone says "but Sakura is only .5 less in taijutsu than Hinata according to the 3rd databook "I will tell you that this is mainly because of her brute strength being superhuman level while her skill is piss poor at best. Hinata has a 3.5 in taijutsu according to the 3rd databook mainly because of her overall skill and versatility in this particular area.

I left out a couple of things that would factor into Hinata's favor like her air palm becuase i'm tired of typing xd. That is all:scorps:

I agree with your post and I'll +rep you after I spread some more rep.

And to the people saying all she needs is one hit Sakura had a chance to one-hit Karui and Omoi but ended up getting knocked the f*** out so it's not like she's really good at Taijutsu.
 

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bolded: lol do you know what parrying attacks mean... if you don't basically it is deflection, blocking, or evading attacks which would leave the opponent open for counters, how will sakura break her arm when she misses.:|

if you didn't read my post i explained when she dodges strikes she puts herself out of position to counter attack. we all know she has powerful strikes but you have to hit you opponent to win.;)

yes both haven't gotten alot of screen time but until i see more from sakura fighting wise, hinata > sakura

Evading is called evasion, sir.

Try blocking Sakura's punch loool. Btw I read it all now, and you can refer to my previous post. She dodged like that against Sasori because of the huge objects being thrown at her. If Sakura lands a single punch i'm pretty sure Hinata loses. Telling me Hinata could avoid EVERY attack? Nah.

Edit: Don't take this the wrong way, I'm not at all flaming. :)
 
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