[Discussion] Misconception regarding SM Naruto VS PAIN Fight

[InfamousB]

At it again? still hardcore "naruto-boy loving I see"

-Naruto had full intel on Pein and all his abilities.
-Naruto had weeks in advanced to prepare for the fight
-It was not Naruto vs Pein it was the "Hidden leaf vs Pein"
-Naruto did not defeat Pein "Kurama defeated pein, or pushed him to his limit"
-Naruto prepared multiple clones to recover his SM or he would of been finished the 1st rasen-shuriken he threw (Sage Mode Ended)
-Naruto appeared at the battle scene with an entire toad army by his side
- Ma and Pa, and the rest of the toad summons did majority of the battling, allowing naruto to land successful attacks
- Katsuya stayed with naruto, provided him intel, and healed him through out the battle
- Naruto had plot on his side because "Deva Path" was restricted the entire fight
- If "Deva Path" wasn't restricted naruto would of been 1 shot neg diff, like it happened once he regained his power.
- Ma and Pa covered for naruto, while they helped him summon the scroll for him to regain sage mode
Did i miss anything? lol?
- Hence "PLOOOOOT NO JUTSU FOR NARDO"

Either way, SM jiraiya > SM Naruto anyday, why? it's simple really.

Jiraiya accomplished the same feats naruto did and even took out 4-5 peins, and guess what?

- He had 0 intel on Pein
- He had to fight, defend himself, whilst trying to enter sage mode
- He held his own outside of sage mode
- Also he had 0 help from a unlimited chakra demon inside of him
- He didn't have a whole toad army backing him up
- He didn't have a whole village backing him up
- He didn't have plot on his side

Switch scenarios, put naruto in jiraiya place and how good do you think he would of done against only 3 of the Peins? LOL that boy wouldn't of lasted 2 seconds.

Stop with the b/s posts, sure everybody has had enough of them sir.

 

[Flaming Amaterasu]

At it again? still hardcore "naruto-boy loving I see"

-Naruto had full intel on Pein and all his abilities.
-Naruto had weeks in advanced to prepare for the fight
-It was not Naruto vs Pein it was the "Hidden leaf vs Pein"
-Naruto did not defeat Pein "Kurama defeated pein, or pushed him to his limit"
-Naruto prepared multiple clones to recover his SM or he would of been finished the 1st rasen-shuriken he threw (Sage Mode Ended)
-Naruto appeared at the battle scene with an entire toad army by his side
- Ma and Pa, and the rest of the toad summons did majority of the battling, allowing naruto to land successful attacks
- Katsuya stayed with naruto, provided him intel, and healed him through out the battle
- Naruto had plot on his side because "Deva Path" was restricted the entire fight
- If "Deva Path" wasn't restricted naruto would of been 1 shot neg diff, like it happened once he regained his power.
- Ma and Pa covered for naruto, while they helped him summon the scroll for him to regain sage mode
Did i miss anything? lol?
- Hence "PLOOOOOT NO JUTSU FOR NARDO"

Either way, SM jiraiya > SM Naruto anyday, why? it's simple really.

Jiraiya accomplished the same feats naruto did and even took out 4-5 peins, and guess what?

- He had 0 intel on Pein
- He had to fight, defend himself, whilst trying to enter sage mode
- He held his own outside of sage mode
- Also he had 0 help from a unlimited chakra demon inside of him
- He didn't have a whole toad army backing him up
- He didn't have a whole village backing him up
- He didn't have plot on his side

Switch scenarios, put naruto in jiraiya place and how good do you think he would of done against only 3 of the Peins? LOL that boy wouldn't of lasted 2 seconds.

Stop with the b/s posts, sure everybody has had enough of them sir.

^ This.

Not to mention, Kakashi weakened pein to a notable degree and after he destroyed the village, his chakra was starting to be affected. Pein > then-SM Naruto.

 

[Honord Sage]

Armchair Quarterback trying to re wright history, only Kishi can do that Pain/Nagato submitted to the will of Naruto accept it. You do not have the power to change it.

 

[Zawerni]

At it again? still hardcore "naruto-boy loving I see"

-Naruto had full intel on Pein and all his abilities.
-Naruto had weeks in advanced to prepare for the fight
-It was not Naruto vs Pein it was the "Hidden leaf vs Pein"
-Naruto did not defeat Pein "Kurama defeated pein, or pushed him to his limit"
-Naruto prepared multiple clones to recover his SM or he would of been finished the 1st rasen-shuriken he threw (Sage Mode Ended)
-Naruto appeared at the battle scene with an entire toad army by his side
- Ma and Pa, and the rest of the toad summons did majority of the battling, allowing naruto to land successful attacks
- Katsuya stayed with naruto, provided him intel, and healed him through out the battle
- Naruto had plot on his side because "Deva Path" was restricted the entire fight
- If "Deva Path" wasn't restricted naruto would of been 1 shot neg diff, like it happened once he regained his power.
- Ma and Pa covered for naruto, while they helped him summon the scroll for him to regain sage mode
Did i miss anything? lol?
- Hence "PLOOOOOT NO JUTSU FOR NARDO"

Either way, SM jiraiya > SM Naruto anyday, why? it's simple really.

Jiraiya accomplished the same feats naruto did and even took out 4-5 peins, and guess what?

- He had 0 intel on Pein
- He had to fight, defend himself, whilst trying to enter sage mode
- He held his own outside of sage mode
- Also he had 0 help from a unlimited chakra demon inside of him
- He didn't have a whole toad army backing him up
- He didn't have a whole village backing him up
- He didn't have plot on his side

Switch scenarios, put naruto in jiraiya place and how good do you think he would of done against only 3 of the Peins? LOL that boy wouldn't of lasted 2 seconds.

Stop with the b/s posts, sure everybody has had enough of them sir.

Not sure we read the same manga. Jiraiya only took out 1 Pain, Chikushodo. Hence why Nagato only had to replace that one.
Naruto took out all 6 Pains. Kurama didn't defeat the Deva Path. Naruto did.
He only had 2 clones to replenish Sage Mode. He had only just learned it, so trying to compare him to someone like Jiraiya who had it for years is ridiculous.
Jiraiya had the toads helping him in the battle with Chikushodo's summons as well. He didn't fight by himself at all against Pain.
The only thing Katsuyu did was provide intel. Show me where she was healing Naruto.
Naruto wasn't "1 shot neg diff" when Deva regained his power.

From what I see on your post, you're just a Naruto hater trying to downplay him.