[Discussion] Misconception regarding SM Naruto VS PAIN Fight

[SIR UZMAKIMADARA]

I read that loads of people likes to write that SM naruto had the advantage of Intel against Pain.
This is other way around.In reality,Pain had the advantage of Intel over naruto.

Katsuya only provided the intel about the 5 second interval of Deva path's ability and the intel about the preta path's ability

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On the other hand,If Pain didn't know about the Frog Genjutsu then Deva path would be dead.

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So this wouldn't lead to this:

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and Deva Path wouldn't be able to do this:

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Eventually,SM naruto would defeat Deva Path himself.Hence naruto wouldn't jumped to save Sage Toad and Deva path wouldn't be able to use his rods on naruto U_U
I'm not talking about Nagato though.

Some people will argue that Deva path wasn't able to use his abilities for a short period.

Same can be said for naruto as naruto hadn't perfected his SM.At that time,Naruto wasn't able to enter in SM himself and he had to rely on his clones.Naruto's SM interval was short.

As compared to Pain Arc SM naruto,War Arc naruto can enter in SM within 2-10 seconds and he can use more FRS than before.
War Arc Naruto was able to enter in SM while climbing on a GOD Tree and it took barely 5-10 seconds to enter in SM

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War Arc SM naruto can use Odama FRS which is more powerful than Simple FRS.

IF War Arc SM naruto Fought against Paths of pain then Naruto would defeat 6 paths of pain with low mid diff U_U

I hope I'd clarify the misconception regarding SM naruto VS Pain fight U_U

 

[Gerkak]

I agree with you.

 

[NOemotions]

.... this thread is P O I N T L E S S.. it's like i could say..
IF itachi didnt have sickness he would still be alive..
IF IF IF IF IF i bet you get my point.

 

[xxMadaraxx]

6pop solo neg diff

 

[PyRoxGoD]

If he didn't know bout genjutsu he still would've caught naruto first anyways and then go for frogs it takes time to do that genjutsu plus if pain wasn't nerfed at the beginning In the first place he would've lost anyways prolly taking maybe two pains out

 

[llxFLaMe]

Kurama defeated pain

 

[Kαmi]

War Arc SM Naruto > Deva Path > Pain Arc SM Naruto

Naruto's intel on Pain greatly exceeded Pain's intel on Naruto. Not only that, the 6 Paths of Pain were at a huge disadvantage since Deva Path was weakened for so long. Yet they came out on top until Kurama interfered.

 

[SIR UZMAKIMADARA]

I agree with you.

Thanks bro

.... this thread is P O I N T L E S S.. it's like i could say..
IF itachi didnt have sickness he would still be alive..
IF IF IF IF IF i bet you get my point.

I think you didn't read the thread carefully.I'm just clarifying the misconception that naruto hadn't have the advantage of intel infact Pain had the advantage of intel and that intel saved Deva path.

6pop solo neg diff

I see U_U

 

[SIR UZMAKIMADARA]

If he didn't know bout genjutsu he still would've caught naruto first anyways and then go for frogs it takes time to do that genjutsu plus if pain wasn't nerfed at the beginning In the first place he would've lost anyways prolly taking maybe two pains out

Sage Toad was about to use his Frog Genjutsu. By having Rinnegan,Deva path was able to see the chakra building up in the Sage Toad that's why he killed him.

Anyways,I agree that Deva path wasn't able to use his abilities for a definite time period but naruto also had the disadvantage of not being able to enter into SM and the Limited usage of FRS.

Kurama defeated pain

It is not a point of this thread.Anyways,Kurama is naruto's pet So Naruto could use that pet whenever he wants.

War Arc SM Naruto > Deva Path > Pain Arc SM Naruto

Naruto's intel on Pain greatly exceeded Pain's intel on Naruto. Not only that, the 6 Paths of Pain were at a huge disadvantage since Deva Path was weakened for so long. Yet they came out on top until Kurama interfered.

I agree with you U_U.

 

[Zawerni]

Pain had an advantage of intel because he already knew of the toad genjutsu?

If Naruto hadn't worried about catching the toad he wouldn't have been caught by Pain. The issue here isn't about intel. It's about Naruto shifting his focus from Pain to the toad, which allowed Pain to get closer to him.

 

[UzumakiRyu]

Kurama defeated pain

No he only helped Naruto out of CT but he wasn't the one able to reverse track Nagato or Rasengan Deva path.

 

[PyRoxGoD]

Sage Toad was about to use his Frog Genjutsu. By having Rinnegan,Deva path was able to see the chakra building up in the Sage Toad that's why he killed him.

Anyways,I agree that Deva path wasn't able to use his abilities for a definite time period but naruto also had the disadvantage of not being able to enter into SM and the Limited usage of FRS.


It is not a point of this thread.Anyways,Kurama is naruto's pet So Naruto could use that pet whenever he wants.


I agree with you U_U.

So if how u say saw chakra building up in him common sense I'll take the dude out anyways cause it's gonna be a big attack or something so I'll beat that one anyways

 

[The Necromancer]

War Arc SM Naruto > Deva Path > Pain Arc SM Naruto

Naruto's intel on Pain greatly exceeded Pain's intel on Naruto. Not only that, the 6 Paths of Pain were at a huge disadvantage since Deva Path was weakened for so long. Yet they came out on top until Kurama interfered.

Yup yup yup.

 

[Jiraiyathesannin]

War Arc SM Naruto > Deva Path > Pain Arc SM Naruto

Naruto's intel on Pain greatly exceeded Pain's intel on Naruto. Not only that, the 6 Paths of Pain were at a huge disadvantage since Deva Path was weakened for so long. Yet they came out on top until Kurama interfered.

Best sig yet kami. Booty had me like

 

[VongolaX]

This is mostly true, even in the bottom scan when it was Deva path it said he was at full power.

Naruto just finish training in sage mode before he entered the battle.

Both were handicapped because deva needed to recover, shortly later 6pop edged naruto.

 

[Uchiha Aizen]

Hw exactly do u guys know d time interval frm d manga?? .. Jst curious

 

[Shinato]

Then again, if Naruto didn't have the intel he had then the Deva Path would never be alone. Naruto gained intel that their eyes were connected, about the 5 second interval, about their separate powers as well as anything Jiraya in general figured out. Beyond that, Deva path was unable to use his power for most of the fight, that left Pain at a huge disadvantage. Taking all that out of the consideration, Pain won the fight. However, Naruto was saved by Hinata, Kurama and Minato. Naruto himself, even with all the intel he had and with the help of the toads, failed in the battle and lost. (Though just barely and Nagato complimented Naruto for that.)

 

[Styles]

War Arc SM Naruto > Deva Path > Pain Arc SM Naruto

Naruto's intel on Pain greatly exceeded Pain's intel on Naruto. Not only that, the 6 Paths of Pain were at a huge disadvantage since Deva Path was weakened for so long. Yet they came out on top until Kurama interfered.

This, and Nagato/Pain was already weakened from fighting Kakashi and destroying Konoha.

 

[Sound]

I don't agree with all but I'd like to add this. 6 Tailed Naruto fought a Full Powered Deva unlike some common misconception suggests.

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[Your Creepy Stalker]

So, pain would have just stood there while the Toads sung something that was A: Clearly a trap, and B: Takes some time to get working.
In full view of him, in an area with nowhere to hide. And i suppose he would have a tea party with Naruto while they were waiting.