Misconception regarding Itachi

[Michael]

Itachi has Aids, he'll always have piss poor stamina. :bdpf:

 

[Tsukukami]

I'm hurt that tsukuyomi 1 shots my fav so I'm just gonna ignore manga facts to rustle jimmies

Interesting post

 

[bencoby]

Fixed it to be more accurate



Y'all we have a non believer lets all pray for this poor man

IB religion has really grown strongly this past year. However truth be told Itachi is fodder whether IB likes it or not.

konoharu is trash. He'll end up like that loser Asuma.

What? is this all it takes to rustle an IB believer. The grandson of the Professor would make prime Itachi look like a kid in his own time.

 

[Rikodou Mode]

There is no potency of chakra its just the amount you have and all uchiha chakra pools are higher than average

Yes and no, Uchiha have above average chakra pool the same way Senju/Uzumaki have above average chakra potency.

However, chakra mass is associated with Ashura's descendants and chakra potency is associated with Indra's because he only passed down his strong chakra. It's the reason Uchiha stand up to Senju, without the potency of their chakra they wouldn't be able to pull off jutsu capable of countering Sage Mode and Bijuus.

Don't believe me ? Explain to me why Sasuke can control his 3T Rinnegan whereas Obito couldn't handle using one despite having Mokuton cells and RSM.

And chakra mass =/= body strength. Itachi may have had a large chakra pool but as I said earlier, Uchihas have a higher chakra potency than they do chakra mass. His chakra was just too strong for his body to handle for the same reason Obito's body wasn't strong enough for a Rinnegan despite having RSM and Mokuton cells.

 

[Dantee]

Manga facts haters gon hate.

 

[LuckyMan]

Birds of the same feather flock together.

Itachis chakra is shit. So many fallacious claims in OP.

 

[Rikodou Mode]

His stamina was affected because he was sick, thus affecting his usage of chakra.

He was sick because of his lack of stamina. His body was too weak for Mangekyo. Same way Obito's was too weak for one Rinnegan even though he had Mokuton cells and Gedo Mazo's life force.

 

[Tsukukami]

Yes and no, Uchiha have above average chakra pool the same way Senju/Uzumaki have above average chakra potency.

However, chakra mass is associated with Ashura's descendants and chakra potency is associated with Indra's because he only passed down his strong chakra. It's the reason Uchiha stand up to Senju, without the potency of their chakra they wouldn't be able to pull off jutsu capable of countering Sage Mode and Bijuus.

Don't believe me ? Explain to me why Sasuke can control his 3T Rinnegan whereas Obito couldn't handle using one despite having Mokuton cells and RSM.

And chakra mass =/= body strength. Itachi may have had a large chakra pool but as I said earlier, Uchihas have a higher chakra potency than they do chakra mass. His chakra was just too strong for his body to handle for the same reason Obito's body wasn't strong enough for a Rinnegan despite having RSM and Mokuton cells.

I understand what your trying to say now . But the Sasuke example is bad cause hago gave him the sage power and the tome rinnegan that probably helps with its use

I'm upset that the manga facts in OP go agains my opinions and fanfic's so I'm just going to deny OP just so my jimmies don't rustle

Good plan

 

[Rikodou Mode]

I understand what your trying to say now . But the Sasuke example is bad cause hago gave him the sage power and the tome rinnegan that probably helps with its use



Good plan

That doesn't change anything though. To be able to use eyes like the Rinnegan and Mangekyo you need a strong body. Reasons Uchiha get blind through the use of Mangekyo is because they don't have the body to handle the chakra. Indra was able to handle that power because his body is closer to the Sage and the Uchiha. The same applies to Sasuke. As Indra' transmigrant his body was more suitable for MS than Itachi which is why his body wasn't damaged. I'm referring to the body because Mangekyo is similar to the Curse Seal because prolonged usage corrodes the body.

 

[lndra]

From what I gather IB has been split and a certain cult has migrated to a group called ST and there is a war between the 2 cults

These guys have way too much free time. Itachi is dead

 

[Tsukukami]

That doesn't change anything though. To be able to use eyes like the Rinnegan and Mangekyo you need a strong body.Reasons Uchiha get blind through the use of Mangekyo is because they don't have the body to handle the chakra. Indra was able to handle that power because his body is closer to the Sage and the Uchiha. The same applies to Sasuke. As Indra' transmigrant his body was more suitable for MS than Itachi which is why his body wasn't damaged. I'm referring to the body because Mangekyo is similar to the Curse Seal because prolonged usage corrodes the body.

@Bold speculation
@2nd Bold Sasuke went blind faster than Itachi. It was never proven Itach's illness was sharingan centered.

 

[Darkakatsuki]

☾ [ Misconception - Stamina =/= Chakra ] ☽


Many people argue about Itachi's stamina, saying that his reserves are small and that he can't last long in a battle. But analyzing the techniques he used in his fight against Sasuke and his conditions at that time, his chakra pool isn't that bad, he actually has a great amount considering the mangafacts below.

- Itachi used genjutsu three times at the beginning of their fight. His genjutsu as an uchiha is known to be of the highest calibur, so it probably consumes some great quantity of chakra.

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- Then he used a kage bunshin jutsu. Everyone knows that shadow clones divide the chakra among the clones and use it very quickly, so the person loses a large amount of chakra. So after using the Kage Bunshin technique, Itachi had just half of his original chakra. And yet he managed to make impressive moves later.

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- After casting genjutsu three times on Sasuke and making kage bunshin's, Itachi casted Tsukuyomi on Sasuke. It's his strongest genjutsu and he was able to keep going with at least half of his reserves. Tsukuyomi its self is known to be very taxing to the chakra pool. A jutsu that uses as much chakra as this couldn't possibly be used by a ninja with average chakra reserves. Itachi being able to use this with at least half his reserves is pretty considerable.

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- Itachi also used a big Katon against Sasuke. Remember Kakashi impressed by Sasuke using Katon when he was 12 years old, because the person supposedly must have a large amount of stamina to do this jutsu? So, I guess it says a lot...

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- Right after that, he casted Amaterasu twice. And canonically, Amaterasu > Katon. Also both jutsu's being taxing to the chakra pool, Also note Amaterasu uses considerably more chakra then Enton. Enton is essentially ‘unfocused’ Amaterasu being as it doesn’t appear/focus on a single point. Its basically shape manipulation so it can afford to be spammed.

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-Focusing on the 2nd use of Amaterasu. As you can see MS Amaterasu follows the vision of the user. This is important, because in MS, Amaterasu is extremely taxing. Even later on Sasuke's grabs his eye every time he used it with MS and still cannot ’spam’ this ability. But Itachi swept his gaze, and made Amaterasu or the flames chase his 'Line of Sight' long enough that it engulfed an entire portion of the forest surrounding the hideout on fire. It provided the necessary heat to start the Thunder Storm. This means, Itachi used a colossal amount of Chakra to summon so many flames in that duration. That is a testament to his large reserves.

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- As if everything wasn't enough, Itachi was able to form his Susano'o faster than kirin and hold it till the 4th tier long enough to fight and seal off Orochimaru.

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His chakra reserves aren't as low as some people make them seem. He was able to dry Sasuke's reserves and negg Orochimaru while sick, coughing blood and almost dying, so he was obviously previously weakened before his fight against Sasuke, which probably had some impact in his stamina and fighting ability.

And then note Itachi wasn't trying to win the fight but rather make it believable that Sasuke was able to beat him. So some of his skills shown in this are presumably much more impressive. Also note Itachi's jutsu (Susanoo) failure wasn't due to his depletion of chakra but to the severity of his disease. This is also proven because seconds before dying he was able to implant amaterasu again.

In conclusion,
Itachi's reserves are large because he accomplished most of these feats at HALF his reserves. And note every uchiha chakra is way above average.

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I agree with everything except for one thing, the shadow clone arguement. Manga fact, ALL of the chakra that the shadow clone posseses is returned to the user if the clone is dispelled. Itachi's shadow clone didn't use any chakra whatsoever, it only took out a kunai and tried to block Sasuke's chidori, which penetrated and sliced through the clone.

You claim Itachi continued to fight with only half of his chakra, which is false as his chakra was fully restored when Sasuke killed the clone.

 

[BA5ED]

Great thread Itachi solos

 

[Owarij]

Crow bunshin never happened. Everything from the point of the kunai throwout, to the point where sasuke breaks the genjutsu is all in Sasuke's head.

However, you missed a few things. Like Itachi making 2 crow clones, and sending them to Naruto and Sasuke's location right before the fight. One to give Naruto kotoamatsuki, and the other to call sasuke. That would have already depleted his chakra a decent bit, despite utilizing crows as a medium lowering the chakra cost of bunshins.

You also forgot his use of Transcripton Seal, And another amaterasu added into it, as setup for Obito .

 

[shelke]

Crow bunshin never happened. Everything from the point of the kunai throwout, to the point where sasuke breaks the genjutsu is all in Sasuke's head.

However, you missed a few things. Like Itachi making 2 crow clones, and sending them to Naruto and Sasuke's location right before the fight. One to give Naruto kotoamatsuki, and the other to call sasuke. That would have already depleted his chakra a decent bit, despite utilizing crows as a medium lowering the chakra cost of bunshins.

You also forgot his use of Transcripton Seal, And another amaterasu added into it, as setup for Obito .

Damn, I knew I forgot something. You still lurk here?

 

[Tsukukami]

Crow bunshin never happened. Everything from the point of the kunai throwout, to the point where sasuke breaks the genjutsu is all in Sasuke's head.

However, you missed a few things. Like Itachi making 2 crow clones, and sending them to Naruto and Sasuke's location right before the fight. One to give Naruto kotoamatsuki, and the other to call sasuke. That would have already depleted his chakra a decent bit, despite utilizing crows as a medium lowering the chakra cost of bunshins.

You also forgot his use of Transcripton Seal, And another amaterasu added into it, as setup for Obito .

Your name is familiar

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Lel all the convenience of a shadow clone while using less chakra
Itachi is truly a genius
Dat Swagtachi

Let the ST be praised

Actually crow clones are worse than shadow clones. They don't transfer remaining chakra back over and they don't transfer information over.

Lol.

 

[Owarij]

Damn, I knew I forgot something. You still lurk here?

Not really, had some free time today, so decided to check things out