Misconception: "Minato used FTG and not Body flicker"

[Narutimate Storm]

Cyberconnect 2 work close with kishimoto. They get info from him. They replicate same manouvre minato use to save kakashi in their ild games:

They no more of naruto than all us. Here is was even shunshin. As op said, same effect used with smoke and that fwoom kanji. Minato use shunshin no jutsu here.

 

[shelke]

You don't have to accept my version, my point is I have substantial evidence to prove that it was body flicker, while you guys don't. Why is it BS? It's whatever kishi wants it to be. When minato teleported to Kushina, why didn't he teleport back to the safe house instead of shunshin? When minato threw 6 kunai at Juubito, why did minato run instead of teleport to the kunai? I've already addressed this, if you choose to ignore it then that's not my fault. Go and question all the other times minato has chosen foot speed rather than FTG.

Love how you said the ring of smoke makes it FTG, I provide you a scan of the same thing in the same chapter and you ignore it. I'll still wait for your reply.

I not trying to prove this is his best feat, he does have better ones indeed. My point is to prove it was shunshin, I dint care what you think of the feat. I especially don't give a crap about your opinion of minatos feats. Because I know only Sasuke related things get you **** hard. It they were Sasuke's feats, you would never say they were unimpressive. And I've never read anything positive about minato from you before, mostly always negative, so why would i care how you feel when I know how much you don't like and care for the character ?

You wanna debate against something, then prove it. Just saying no, or repeating the same thing over and over, that doesn't even prove anything isn't an argument.

Then you can believe that. Just don't expect people to share this view. If two solid evidences are not enough, then why engage in this banter with me?

Hard on? Now isn't that ironic? Lol

 

[Gold Lightning]

Manga has ended. People still arguing whether he used hiraishin or shunshin lol
I am not sure why Minato fans are hell bent on trying to prove that he is fast without hiraishin.
We know he is, but no matter what (half asked feats that can be interpreted in other ways) you show he is still behind a good few people.

As for the thread. I also believed it is hiraishin and while i get what you are saying, im not 100% sure because as others have said the kunai in kakashi's bag, the scenario and the DB image (which can be interpreted in more than one way) suggests it can very well be hiraishin. Im actually not sure which one it is actually, but i could care less either way.

I don't get your logic. Manga has ended so no more topics? No more theory or conspiracy threads, no more topics explaining things misinterpreted? I made a thread because I realised something that people were getting wrong. I already know how fast minato is and I know he isn't the strongest or fastest. That's not my point of this thread, the point is to prove why A is B and why B isn't C. Is that not allowed? Or becuase I'm a minato fan I can't make threads, explain yourself. There's a list of people who thumbed up this thread and agree, I didn't start the thread to wank, I wanted to show something to people are see who disagrees and agrees. Only thing i don't appreciate is when someone comes and writes no, without an explanation.

As did I believe it was FTG. But that's because I listened to other people and didn't actually look properly myself. Kakashi had a kunai, yes. And quite frankly that's the only evidence people on the opposing side have said. If that's it, then sorry but that won't cut it. If you couldn't care less then why comment. I never go into a thread I don't care about.

 

[Narutimate Storm]

Manga has ended. People still arguing whether he used hiraishin or shunshin lol
I am not sure why Minato fans are hell bent on trying to prove that he is fast without hiraishin.
We know he is, but no matter what (half arsed feats that can be interpreted in other ways) you show he is still behind a good few people.

As for the thread. I also believed it is hiraishin and while i get what you are saying, im not 100% sure because as others have said the kunai in kakashi's bag, the scenario and the DB image (which can be interpreted in more than one way) suggests it can very well be hiraishin. Im actually not sure which one it is actually, but i could care less either way.

Same move replicated and copy into ultimate ninja.

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It was shunshin here, same effects used. Notice kanji and smoke. That how kishi show shunshin then. And nothing like sign or symbol or effect use when minato use hiraishin against iwagakure ninja.

 

[Gold Lightning]

Then you can believe that. Just don't expect people to share this view. If two solid evidences are not enough, then engage in this banter with me?

Hard on? Now isn't that ironic? Lol

Still waiting for your response on the ring of smoke = FTG in that Kakashi Gaiden chapter
you dodging the question cuz you know you were wrong Lol

 

[Blaze Release]

I don't get your logic. Manga has ended so no more topics? No more theory or conspiracy threads, no more topics explaining things misinterpreted? I made a thread because I realised something that people were getting wrong. I already know how fast minato is and I know he isn't the strongest or fastest. That's not my point of this thread, the point is to prove why A is B and why B isn't C. Is that not allowed? Or becuase I'm a minato fan I can't make threads, explain yourself. There's a list of people who thumbed up this thread and agree, I didn't start the thread to wank, I wanted to show something to people are see who disagrees and agrees. Only thing i don't appreciate is when someone comes and writes no, without an explanation.

Bruh its christmas, enjoy yourself.
Sheesh, i feel like im in secondary school again

As did I believe it was FTG. But that's because I listened to other people and didn't actually look properly myself. Kakashi had a kunai, yes. And quite frankly that's the only evidence people on the opposing side have said. If that's it, then sorry but that won't cut it. If you couldn't care less then why comment. I never go into a thread I don't care about.

Could careless as in, whether it is hiraishin or shunshin.

Same move replicated and copy into ultimate ninja.

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It was shunshin here, same effects used. Notice kanji and smoke. That how kishi show shunshin then. And nothing like sign or symbol or effect use when minato use hiraishin against iwagakure ninja.

Dude both shunshin and hiraishin on occasions produces smoke. Im not sure which it is to be honest, but im not too bothered to look into it that much.

 

[shelke]

Still waiting for your response on the ring of smoke = FTG in that Kakashi Gaiden chapter
you dodging the question cuz you know you were wrong Lol

I will just re-post the evidence you have chosen to ignore.

These evidences are enough for me.

Kakashi possessing the marking:

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The databook using that image and incident to exemplify FTG:

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The smoke around him:

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The smoke automatically adds to the FTG evidence when the first two state so. It is a pile-on of evidence, in fact, in this case it's laid on thick. If you count the third as incorrect, then you have the first one. Minato not using FTG to save Kakashi is absurd when he states so later himself that FTG usage for the sole reason he left a Kunai with Kakashi. In fact, this evidence alone utterly destroys your thread.

Then we have the Databook and by extension the author choosing only this war incident (two) as a bold example. You cannot play the fool card here, when the author expounded upon FTG using this example. Then it amounts to two explicit facts, rather than one. Add the ring of smoke to it, which by itself isn't a big evidence, then it becomes irrefutable, given that it cannot be a mere probability that the author makes Minato state himself that he left the FTG kunai with him to aid him using FTG, then the author expounds upon FTG using these examples, and then uses the smoke effect.

You never had anything here. I don't know what you think you have here, but it's fan-fiction.

 

[Narutimate Storm]

Dude both shunshin and hiraishin on occasions produces smoke. Im not sure which it is to be honest, but im not too bothered to look into it that much.

in that chapter, hiraishin leave no smoke. When minato hirashin to iwagakure shinobi, no smoke left, and no zoom kanji. But before when minato save kakashi, we get zoom symbol and dust cloud. We see again for second time zoom symbol and dust effect when minato get back to rin. Both are shunshin no jutsu kishi show us here.
Like op say, we cannot expect kishi to be 100% consistent for over 250 chapter later. Before hiraishin leavd no trace. But in kyuubi flash back, it did. Did not itachi use mangekyou with just 3 tomoe before in part 1. Kakashi kamui also was not spinning spiral shape like it is now. Many things change, not authors fault. Importance is what occur in that chapter, and what we see is no smoke dust or symbol use for hiraishin.
Rin surpise also suspicious becuase why behave such way if minato just use same thing before? Iwagakure ninja also not figure out minato is yellow flash when minato save kakashi. He realise after minato hirashin behind him. Iwa ninja also called minato save movement. Hirashin not have moment, meaning you cant see moment of instaneous transportsion. He obvious saw minato shunshin.

This what i believe anyway. The game also show it as shunshin, cyberconnect 2 always work close with kishi and get his input. It no be coincidence that minato have exact same move as that manga scene.

 

[Gold Lightning]

I will just re-post the evidence you have chosen to ignore.

These evidences are enough for me.

Kakashi possessing the marking:

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