Misconception - "Kurama messed up Naruto's chakra control"

Can Naruto control his chakra properly without Kurama?

  • Yes

    Votes: 13 52.0%
  • No

    Votes: 4 16.0%
  • Sakura>Naruto in Chakra control. She doesn't need Kurama's help to walk on water.

    Votes: 5 20.0%
  • Rinnehawk solos. Lol

    Votes: 3 12.0%

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1: Kakashi had no information on the seal Orochimaru placed.
2: He specifically referenced Kurama, and as he had no info on the seal, it is clear this problem was prior to oro's intervention.

Good try though.
He doesn't need to know about Oro's seal. Whether he knows or not, the effect remains the same.

Analogy: Imagine you have leukemia and I don't know about it. It still affects your stamina levels the same. Kakashi was able to observe Naruto fighting Kiba etc. That was when the 5 part seal was in effect.

Again, using a scan while the 5 part seal is in place makes it invalid.

The fact remains that without the chakra mixing Naruto can't walk on water. Try to disprove that.
 

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Minato has kyubi chakra yet his rasengan is also blue. What's your point?
Based on what, the anime adaptation?
The manga said the chakra mixed; not me.
Yes, and that was further explained through Kurama himself.
Whether the chakra mixed or not doesn't change the fact that Naruto's chakra is blue.
Except it isn't. That's a generic chakra color the animators choose to use.
Blood+milk= pink milk. Yet milk is and will always be white. Naruto described his chakra as blue because that is its color.
Even though the scan said other wise.
You ignored the scans where it states that their chakra mixes.
And you ignored the clarification.

Seems to me you pretty much conceded.
 
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Strength=\= Chakra control

He can only manipulate it because of his own chakra and skill.
That's why he can even /manipulate that chakra and give it to other people.

Manga says it ruins his chakra control. Too bad you're too dense.​
 

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Based on what, the anime adaptation?

Yes, and that was further explained through Kurama himself.

Except it isn't. That's a generic chakra color the animators choose to use.

Even though the scan said other wise.

And you ignored the clarification.

Seems to me you pretty much conceded.
His chakra color is yellow. My bad. The anime said blue I think.

Anyway. Yellow+Red=orange. This is why Naruto's glows with an orange tint.

His chakra will always be yellow regardless. Blood+milk= pink milk. Yet milk will always be white. What's your point?

Fukasaku said the chakra mixed from birth.
 

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Then why can't Naruto control chakra without Kurama's chakra mixing with his. Jaraiya said it was because their chakra couldn't mix.

Also, the scan you posted was before Jaraiya undid the seal. Thus you can't use that scan.



Read before you post. Jaraiya said Naruto had problems with Chakra control becuase of the seal Orochimaru placed. Kurama's chakra must mix with Naruto's for him to walk on water.
Kakashi didn't know about Naruto's having a seal put on him by Orochimaru, Naruto didn't even know so when Kakashi said the 9 tails make Naruto's chakra control bad, that's Naruto without the 5 prong seal. So Naruto had bad chakra control from having Kurama and even worst with the seal and guess what, Naruto was still able to stand on water some .

Minato made Kurama's chakra natural mix with Naruto's Orochimaru seal disrupted that flow in order to cut off the 9 tails chakra.
 
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He can only manipulate it because of his own chakra and skill.
That's why he can even /manipulate that chakra and give it to other people.

Manga says it ruins his chakra control. Too bad you're too dense.​
Jaraiya says he can't walk on water without Kurama.

Stamina or Strength=\= Chakra control

This is embarassing for OP...
Lel.

That scan was before Jaraiya fixed the seal so Kurama's chakra could mix with Naruto's.


Kakashi didn't know about Naruto's having a seal put on him by Orochimaru, Naruto didn't even know so when Kakashi said the 9 tails make Naruto's chakra control bad, that's Naruto without the 5 prong seal. So Naruto had bad chakra control from having Kurama and even worst with the seal and guess what, Naruto was still able to stand on water some .

Minato made Kurama's chakra natural mix with Naruto's Orochimaru seal disrupted that flow in order to cut off the 9 tails chakra.
Whether Kakashi knew or not changes nothing. The 5 part seal affects Naruto the same.

Analogy: Whether we knew Itachi was sick or not doesn't make a difference. It still affected his stamina.

Kakashi thought it was because of Kurama. Yet he didn't know that the 5 part seal was the reason.

@bold:

That's my point.

Naruto couldn't walk on water without Kurama's chakra mixing with his. He needs Kurama to walk on water.
 
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Good thread 10/10. It was 0r0 5 seal that made it hard for naruto to control chakra. Before that kakashi didn't have a clue of the existence of oro 5 seal
 

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People disagree but yet can't disprove the fact that Naruto can't walk on water without Kurama's chakra. This was confirmed by Jaraiya.

Naruto needs his chakra to mix with Kurama in order for him to have better chakra control.
 

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People disagree but yet can't disprove the fact that Naruto can't walk on water without Kurama's chakra. This was confirmed by Jaraiya.

Naruto needs his chakra to mix with Kurama in order for him to have better chakra control.
Please just stop nothing you say makes any sense, so every normal ninja can do basic E rank walk on water but Naruto cant because needs Kurama? you realise how stupid that sounds? Bijuu chakra don't give you better chakra control its something you have to master.
 

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Please just stop nothing you say makes any sense, so every normal ninja can do basic E rank walk on water but Naruto cant because needs Kurama? you realise how stupid that sounds? Bijuu chakra don't give you better chakra control its something you have to master.
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Above, we see Jaraiya observing and commenting on Naruto's seal. He states that the reason Naruto couldn't control chakra well was because the 5 part seal prevented Kurama's chakra from mixing with Naruto's. Essentially, Naruto cannot control chakra properly without Kurama; he needs Kurama's chakra to mix with his in order to properly control his chakra.
 
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