Misconception : Bloodline = Clan

[Multiply]

I agree. I don't see how people completely forgot about all of this. Thanks for bringing this forward and stopping all the stupid threads

 

[KingHashirama]

Wrong, the senju and uchiha are actually cousins. Since their ancestors were brothers, this makes the two clans have same blood, so you are wrong.

o-o Uchiha blood = Senju blood now? mk

 

[3 Days Grace]

o-o Uchiha blood = Senju blood now? mk

o-o Hyuga blood = Uchiha blood now? mk

o-o Uzumaki blood = Senju blood now? mk

 

[KingHashirama]

How can you even say that when at one point or another they were clearly one and the same?

ARgue with the manga not me. Uzumaki blood has Senju blood. Uchiha blood does not have Senju blood.... .

Nothing you said here makes sense in any context whatsoever
You definitely need to take some courses on Genealogy

Coming from the guy who doesn't know what a distant relative, and how a lineage works....

o-o Hyuga blood = Uchiha blood now? mk

o-o Uzumaki blood = Senju blood now? mk

I don't even believe in Kakahsi's crap about Hyuuga being related to the Big 3. So fail point ;]

Uzumaki blood has Senju blood ;].

 

[Bronze]

o-o Uchiha blood = Senju blood now? mk

Yes they have the same blood. The uchiha and senju ancestors were brothers, uchiha and clan senju are descendants of the two brothers which makes them cousins, therefore they share the same blood. So you are wrong.

 

[3 Days Grace]

ARgue with the manga not me. Uzumaki blood has Senju blood. Uchiha blood does not have Senju blood.... .

Uzumaki blood doesn't have senju blood. you have no proof for such

 

[Multiply]

o-o Hyuga blood = Uchiha blood now? mk

o-o Uzumaki blood = Senju blood now? mk

People like you are ridiculous. Do you even look at what you write :|.

 

[Multiply]

Yes they have the same blood. The uchiha and senju ancestors were brothers, uchiha and clan senju are descendants of the two brothers which makes them cousins, therefore they share the same blood. So you are wrong.

That implies they have the same DNA. If that's the case, how the hell does it require senju DNA to unlock rinnegan :|

 

[Kαmi]

Personally I disagree. If an Uchiha marries a Hyuuga, just because they are married doesn't mean a Uchiha should be classified as a Hyuuga. Marriage is a word. Family is the people you live with. The clan you are born with determine your traits. What matters are abilities and where you allegiance lies.

You are free to disagree with me, but this thread dares me to give my opinion and I will not have it insulted.

Couldn't have come up with a more perfect response myself

 

[3 Days Grace]

That implies they have the same DNA. If that's the case, how the hell does it require senju DNA to unlock rinnegan :|

Does this also not mean the Uzumaki & Senju blood sin't the same, since Uzumaki DNa can't unlock rennigan.

 

[KingHashirama]

Uzumaki blood doesn't have senju blood. you have no proof for such

If after this you keep denying the Uzumaki don't have Senju blood.. please don't reply back X_X

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Yes they have the same blood. The uchiha and senju ancestors were brothers, uchiha and clan senju are descendants of the two brothers which makes them cousins, therefore they share the same blood. So you are wrong.

So basically your saying Madara was a retard for having to want Senju dna..

 

[Bronze]

That implies they have the same DNA. If that's the case, how the hell does it require senju DNA to unlock rinnegan :|

That's like saying every senju has hashirama DNA, cuz they share senju blood. The uchiha and senju are more like tree family, they all share one ancestor which so6p, their ancestors are brothers which makes the two clans as cousins, through these ancestors, uchiha and senju have the same blood as a family not in DNA.

 

[Bronze]

If after this you keep denying the Uzumaki don't have Senju blood.. please don't reply back X_X

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So basically your saying Madara was a retard for having to want Senju dna..

Ok if the uzumaki and senju have same bloodline, they anyone with uzumaki blood can awaken rinnegan if they have uchiha.

The scan you brought can be disproved when tobi says nagato is an uzumaki. The uzumaki are descendants of the senju, which means they have tree blood but not same DNA. No one has the same DNA in a family unless if there twins.

 

[KingHashirama]

Ok if the uzumaki and senju have same bloodline, they anyone with uzumaki blood can awaken rinnegan if they have uchiha.

The scan you brought can be disproved when tobi says nagato is an uzumaki. The uzumaki are descendants of the senju, which means they have tree blood but not same DNA. No one has the same DNA in a family unless if there twins.

noone has the same Dna...... . Do you know what Dna is? And who said someone can't do it? I mean Nagato was picked for the rinnegan , because he was a Uzumaki.... hence he has Senju blood.

 

[Multiply]

That's like saying every senju has hashirama DNA, cuz they share senju blood. The uchiha and senju are more like tree family, they all share one ancestor which so6p, their ancestors are brothers which makes the two clans as cousins, through these ancestors, uchiha and senju have the same blood as a family not in DNA.

If an Uzumaki marries A Senju, they do not have literally the same blood. Their blood shares similar DNA. If they have children, the DNA will then mutate. That's why no one person's DNA is the same(not even in twins). So now the brothers are Senju and Uchiha. They both go their seperate ways. Decades later, the great grand children of the brother's DNA has mutated so much, it's almost like they're not identical. Of course they share similar traits, but they're not as close as they were. Then decades and decades later, they're almost entirely different. Hashirama's father or mother, likely come from a direct line from the Senju brother. That is why his chakra is so rich with life. He's able to utilize Mokuton as a result in that. Tobirama has amazing suiton capabilities due to that same DNA. Hashi's family is really the only direct line from the Senju clan that we know of. That's why his DNA is so precious. It's not as tainted as someone who married a random person or someone from a different clan. Hashi's Mokuton can really be seen as a birth defect through decades of incest :|

 

[Bronze]

If an Uzumaki marries A Senju, they do not have literally the same blood. Their blood shares similar DNA. If they have children, the DNA will then mutate. That's why no one person's DNA is the same(not even in twins). So now the brothers are Senju and Uchiha. They both go their seperate ways. Decades later, the great grand children of the brother's DNA has mutated so much, it's almost like they're not identical. Of course they share similar traits, but they're not as close as they were. Then decades and decades later, they're almost entirely different. Hashirama's father or mother, likely come from a direct line from the Senju brother. That is why his chakra is so rich with life. He's able to utilize Mokuton as a result in that. Tobirama has amazing suiton capabilities due to that same DNA. Hashi's family is really the only direct line from the Senju clan that we know of. That's why his DNA is so precious. It's not as tainted as someone who married a random person or someone from a different clan. Hashi's Mokuton can really be seen as a birth defect through decades of incest :|

Hashirama was lucky to have born with mokuton, just like everyone that were born with talent, It doesn't have anything to do with DNA mutations. Tobirama wasn't born as the best suiton because he was from the senju, he worked hard to be the best suiton user. The uchiha and senju are tree blood family, which makes them blood family, but with no identical DNA. Uzumaki are different, they are descendants of the senju this doesn't make them part of the uchiha and senju tree family.

Besides I disagree with this thread.

 

[Bronze]

noone has the same Dna...... . Do you know what Dna is? And who said someone can't do it? I mean Nagato was picked for the rinnegan , because he was a Uzumaki.... hence he has Senju blood.

You just disagreed with your thread. Bloodline means the clan you are born to, not the ones that you have became part once you married. Uzumakis and senju are tree blood family, but nagato was full uzumaki, not senju, he may have senju blood.

 

[Hikari Uchiha Senju]

Another big misconception where the people believe the bloodline of a person determines the clan. For example, Mito and Kushina. People automatically put them in the Uzumaki clan in a VS thread, instead of realizing that when those 2 got married they became part of their Husband's clan.

Mito was born into the Uzumaki clan yes. But after she got married to the Shodai, she was part of the Senju clan.

Kushina was BORN INTO the Uzumaki clan.. got Married to Minato.. became a Namikaze.


Hell some Uchiha were part of the Senju clan before the creation of the village.
This misconception has led to much bullshit in theories and what people claim to be manga facts. YOUR BLOOD DOES NOT = THE CLAN YOU ARE IN. People put Naruto in the Uzumaki clan.. without realizing HE HAS NO EFFING CLAN. If he gets married to Hinata and joins their family.. hes gonna be part of the Hyuuga clan.


The theories made for "SO6P being UZumaki" , or "hyuuga being starters of the Uchiha" and many other theories, have always made it that Blood = Clan.

However no. Nagato was called to have Senju blood (Hence why he is part of the Senju lineage). However the Senju lineage was split in 2, the Senju clan itself, and the Uzumaki clan. BOTH CLANS ARE PART OF THE SENJU BLOOD. Well by now we should already know that the senju weren't like the Uchiha who apparently married into their clan or w.e .

So people your blood does not = your clan. CLAN is a group.. your blood is your lineage.

Finnaly someone who get's it! + rep for the f**** brains!

 

[KingHashirama]

You just disagreed with your thread. Bloodline means the clan you are born to, not the ones that you have became part once you married. Uzumakis and senju are tree blood family, but nagato was full uzumaki, not senju, he may have senju blood.

And that is part of my point....... Nagato was a Uzumaki... but he wasn't in the Uzumaki clan..... Your and everyone's point against me is nullified.. when the Uchiha become and join the Senju.

 

[madarasasuke5]

Dt really have a clue.